Ibanez JS1200 - Candy Apple user reviews ( 8/10) - 14 user reviews

• 12/28/11

  heads on fire's review "Shred on!"

  Characteristics

  SPECS
  
  Neck Material: Maple
  
  Neck Type: JS Prestige
  
  Body: Basswood body
  
  Frets: 6105 frets
  
  Fingerboard: Rosewood
  
  Inlay: Abalone dot inlay
  
  Bridge: Edge bridge
  
  NeckPU: DiMarzio® PAF-JOE
  
  BridgePU: DiMarzio® FRED®
  
  HW Color: CH
  
  Finishes: CA
  
  
  
  NECK DIMENSIONS
  
  
  
  Scale/Length 648mm/25.5"
  
  a: Width at Nut 42mm
  
  b: Width Last Fret 56mm
  
  c: Thickness 1st Fret 20mm
  
  d: Thickness 12th Fret 22.3mm
  
  Radius 250mm
  
  PICKUPS
  
  Bridge Pickup
  
  Name: DiMarzio® FRED®
  
  Model No: DP153
  
  Construction: Humbucking
  
  Magnet: Alnico
  
  Description: Strong mids and a wide range of harmonics and overtones. Designed for Joe Satriani.
  
  
  
  Neck Pickup
  
  Name: DiMarzio® PAF-JOE
  
  Model No: DP213
  
  Construction: Humbucking
  
  Magnet: Alnico
  
  Description: Vintage humbucking sound with blended clear low and warm mid/high.

  Utilization

  Right off the bat, this guitar is a dream to play. The action is low low LOW, and the neck has a nice carve to it. It's a bit thicker than the other Ibanez guitars, like RG with the Wizard neck, but it feels incredible. Also, the tremolo system on this is unmatched - the Edge from Ibanez is my favorite double-locking tremolo on this planet, and it always comes back to tune even after the most serious whammy abuse. The build quality is top notch as well.

  Sounds

  This guitar smokes! It is quite a versatile beast, but it was meant for shred. These Dimarzio pickups can sear and soar with the best out there - they have a vintage Gibson quality, but with a bit more output. The only think soundwise this guitar seems to be lacking is a push-pull tone pot. I'm not saying that all guitars should have one, but in this case, with the shred neck and Edge system, it would seem appropriate.

  Overall Opinion

  This is a great axe for anyone wanting to get their shred demons out. The guitar just begs to be played fast, but with soulful bends everywhere. It is a lead guitarist's dream guitar, and it does the job nicely.
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• 09/05/11

  King Loudness's review "Vintage feeling Ibanez"

  Characteristics

  The Ibanez JS1200 is an updated version of the guitar that Joe Satriani designed for Ibanez all those years ago. Joe's always been more of a vintage guy and his guitar is an excellent blend of the typical Ibanez superstrat and some more classic Strat type guitars that Joe played back in the day. It features a basswood body, rosewood fretboard with 22 6105 frets (taller and narrower in design) the recently added for 2010 Edge Tremolo (replacing the old Edge Pro bridge used for many years prior. It also has DiMarzio signature Satriani pickups - a PAF Joe in the neck position and a FRED in the bridge position. They're made in Japan at the Ibanez factory there.

  Utilization

  The JS1200 is definitely an ergonomic and streamlined instrument for my tastes. Though it's not quite as thin or fast as a typical RG, it eschews that extra bit of speed for a more comfortable vintage spec'd feel that I personally love. I had an original Ibanez Radius that was quite similar in feel to the JS1200 - nice comfortable medium sized neck and a body that sits very well both sitting and standing. It's a good medium weight that is easy to play for extended periods too. The upper fret access isn't as good as an RG or a JEM but it's fairly good - kind of like an old Strat.
  
  
  
  Getting a good sound out of this guitar is pretty easy. Joe tends to like more of a vintage voiced tone than typically is found in Ibanez guitars, so this is a treat for players like me who prefer an old school tone. There is also a high pass filter to create a different set of tones as well... very cool.

  Sounds

  I've tried this guitar through a multitude of amplifiers and have concluded that at its core it sounds like a typical Ibanez RG guitar, but with thicker lows, a more prominent midrange and less spiky highs. The clean tones are excellent for blues or jazz type settings, and with the high pass filter engaged it gets into kind of a Strat territory which is pretty cool. The drive tones are exactly what you'd expect from a Satch guitar - very open and refined but with enough output to work with higher gain modern rigs of today. It's a perfect compromise between the vintage Fenders and the more modern superstrats. Rhythms are fat and chunky, with excellent articulation and clarity on the low strings. The lead tones have great sustain and richness on both pickups, excellent for legato or alternate picked passages.

  Overall Opinion

  All in all I think the Ibanez JS1200 is a really cool and unique take on the typical Ibanez superstrat. It's a bit expensive at $1,800 new but they can be had for a reasonable price on the used market. It's well crafted and sounds great for hard rock styles, plus the feel is enough of a departure that fans of a more vintage feeling guitar will dig it.
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• 07/11/11

  Hatsubai's review "Updated pickups"

  Characteristics

  This is really the exact same model as the Prestige JS1000s out there. The biggest difference is that the neck pickup has been replaced with the PAF Joe instead of the normal PAF Pro. The guitar has a basswood body with a maple neck and a rosewood fretboard, 22 frets with dot inlays, an Edge bridge, two DiMarzio humbuckers, one volume, one tone and a three way toggle switch.

  Utilization

  The guitar has awesome build quality. The frets ends are nicely beveled so they won't cut your hands while moving up and down the neck. The frets themselves are perfectly crowned and allow you to get some low action without any issues. The bridge on this was actually replaced later on around 2010. These guitars used to come with an Edge Pro bridge, but they now have the (superior) Edge tremolo. If you're looking to buy one, I recommend getting it with the Edge bridge as they feel better to me. They have a spongier feel that allows you to flutter better. You can also use the intonation too with these.

  Sounds

  The guitar sounds great. While it's not the best guitar out there for high gain death metal rhythm tones, it does lead tones fantastically. The DiMarzio FRED sounds great in the bridge for lead lines; harmonics jump out like crazy and it has some real cool overtones going on. The PAF Joe in the neck has more of that classic "vowely" kind of tone going on for it. It sounds better than the PAF Pro to me because of this. It just seems to have a bit more character than the normal PAF Pro. Clean tones are especially awesome once you enable the coil split on the tone control.

  Overall Opinion

  Aside from the color and the PAF Joe in the neck, this is pretty much the same as the JS1000 out there. If you're a fan of the candy apple red color, I say go for it. Otherwise, you can get the same guitar out there if you just buy a used JS1000. If you do decide to buy this, try to buy a newer one as it'll have the Edge tremolo instead of the Edge Pro.
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• 10/16/11

  goldorock's review ( translated ) Improve this translation " not the big sound versatile than I expected but very nice scratching"

  Characteristics

  pro edge floyd
  
  22 frets
  
  
  
  is a split of two microphones and a push pull that is to keep the treble at low volume (very good)
  
  A volume
  
  A tone
  
  
  
  DiMarzio
  
  a paf joe (blues, I prefer the sh1 but it is good to turn the guitar in his strat)
  
  and fred (here, it's hard to love him!)
  
  
  
  small microphone in the sense that I would have liked more feedback, more safe, sustain etc..
  
  more heat!

  Utilization

  The handle is slightly longer than strat
  
  In any case, access to acute is difficult: the stratum was simpler
  
  even if the top is a sg or G400
  
  there, reaching the 22nd box and stay in it seems to me complicated which is quite frustrating
  
  the handle is too long for my taste but if you prefer to tapping.
  
  
  
  the guitar is really beautiful: she is beautiful and it is a dream but no big sound
  
  see the dvd g3
  
  we put a gibson next and it has nothing to do!
  
  or steve morse, warmer

  Sounds

  neck pickup: great sound even if the paf pro would have been more powerful
  
  split: it is a wonder, dare we say
  
  intermediate position very good but I prefer the sound stratum for this (the second and fourth) that is not here
  
  
  
  It is suitable for rock, blues but not the blues spot Gibson, Fender type but the blues
  
  perhaps because of the lime.
  
  
  
  The intermediate position deserved a better sound, more strategic.
  
  IN easel, I liked a BIG SOUND: feedback, sustain,
  
  it is as if there was a small micro scratches when you buy one to use it with the floyd
  
  satch even took a mo joe stronger recently.
  
  like many, it's still a moderate micro qd even a little light.

  Overall Opinion

  I use it for 2 years.
  
  No, I have not tried others but I think of it.
  
  
  
  What I like most is the hand clapping sounds, side Fender Start, simple winding paf joe
  
  that is nearing its a double.
  
  I love playing with the volume and have a sound stevie ray, keep, if we decrease the treble volume and so on.
  
  
  
  As discussed below, this scratch is not worth its price.
  
  
  
  NO, I will buy a floyd without scratching because it is really super annoying when you not know it and even when it knows! change the strings could be done with very quickly and without mécananiques locking floyd, well there either, provide many hours!
  
  
  
  I was disappointed by this supposed to be versatile scratch: no, saturated blues (gary moore, slash etc) but it's not necessary for the side Fender, Stratocaster, Stevie Ray and sounds sharp enough, it happens.
  
  but it lacks the warmth in the sound of the neck pickup
  
  where are the seymour? mahogany? can not be credible if you you want to play gary moore or have a real hot in her neck that epiphone 300 euros with good microphones could give!
  
  
  
  The fred: it's really hard to hang or so, the lime, but for me it is not enough feedback,
  
  micro not powerful enough
  
  others would have as many harmonics
  
  
  
  I have often found that the difference was not split splits not obvious.
  
  With sh4 or HS6, I think it would sound better if we try to heat! idem handle.
  
  
  
  No, I will make a scratch in hh or hsh floyd but with a side that Fender and Gibson in his
  
  a thicker sound like a G400 to handle and more potatoes in easel
  
  
  
  I keep hoping that scratching myself to one day! because it is beautiful and the vibrato is good (not great because I say I doubt we can do everything including putting the rod in the other direction, as opposed to micro and use)
  
  
  
  the selector tends to make noise
  
  we must also look for teflon washers
  
  short, qq things to settle
  
  stem wanders vibrato and so on.
  
  I love the splits quite effective but it's still light because the microphones are not powerful
  
  we say that it is the day and night as I found with SH1 and SH6
  
  
  
  
  
  facing a gibson and Seymour, the scratches will not be there if you really looking for big sound
  
  warm
  
  maybe the fans of legato, tapping, sound satch acute, with a large side fender gibson only will find their account
  
  
  
  For me it's like having a super skyscraper but in which the microphones were short of sth
  
  I would have liked a scraper cut, double cut as it would have been simpler treble.
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• 10/13/11

  trevellin's review ( translated ) Improve this translation " guitar a bit expensive for what it gives ..."

  Characteristics

  it is a made in japan (stamped "Team J Craft" on the back of the head to say that it was made by the team from Japan).
  
  the bridge, everyone he knows especially the fans of Satch, EDGE is one that is simpler and more efficient ...
  
  we have 22 frets on the beautiful and the key is the Bishop rosewood with beautiful abalone benchmarks!
  
  for controls, was, 1 volume, 1 tone and a 3-position selector.
  
  Note that the volume and tone are splitables with a little more, well, the key is for single splitter microphones, and against the split on the volume, acts as a filter to keep the treble low volume, and indeed we find this tip on the vox satchurator.

  Utilization

  the handle is very comfortable in the style fender stratocaster.
  
  the key is blackened and with the benchmarks in abalone, cast here!
  
  ergonomics on this guitar is thought the guitar body is rather thin and rounded, and it remains on the thigh when playing seated.
  
  access to acute is very good, we walk easily on the handle which calls for a particular game, pirouettes and blues techniques and is very comfortable, regardless of whether one is in the treble or bass.
  
  for sound, sounds that are obtained are those that can be heard at joe at the moment, tear that sounds saturated and clean sounds accurate enough and slamming.

  Sounds

  Apart from the sounds clear and still, I did not find the sounds that make me want to stay here to play again and again ...
  
  the issue is not too bad in the clear; ofSuite we feel that it is the pickups that give the sound and not the violin, it was clear arpeggios, a slamming in the notes, but it is far from a with his personality ...
  
  for the blues, it's good to try, but what comes out is far from the blues!
  
  we obtain a sound loaded "fuzz" and there, it gets tiring quickly ...
  
  move on to more saturated mode, and there is better, it was a more accurate, but devoid of serious presence; a sound that hard but does not know how it finally!
  
  here can be useful on the day you want to redo your home upholstery, you plug in your Marshall stack all the way into the room and you play anything: result, tapestry falls alone! ah! ah!
  
  No, joking aside, it really means ... more

  Overall Opinion

  I have tried just a quarter of an hour so I was disappointed that "signature"!
  
  BOF! that's the only word that could sum up in itself made me feel that this guitar ...
  
  frankly, for € 1790, I find it not worth it!
  
  and causes!
  
  It is almost as much as a gibson les paul standard premium traditionnal I tried one week earlier in the same store, but satriani is far from reaching his ankle, and I'm talking in terms of sound, Consistency of price in relation to wood, mounted microphones and grain it gives off, I sincerely believe it is not worth more than € 1,300 and over again, I'm nice ...
  
  this guitar (I'm talking about JS1200CA) was not in his personality, we find this type of sound on the Ibanez RG made in japan, it's always clear and slamming into the fuzz on his neck pickup saturated, after which we like it or not ...
  
  but I think it's a great scam to sell a guitar with basswood that price and I think also that they could have done better finish issue and it does not relieve, for me, the impression a guitar "high game", I really feel like a guitar "any" in the hands ...
  
  but it has some advantages not to be neglected;
  
  -A clear, precise and slamming that can be useful when using a phaser, flanger or playing in arpeggios (which is often the father satch in these compounds of the first album, after which he was only the shadow of himself).
  
  A handle-very comfortable and very inviting to play the blues, but the sound is not up ...
  
  and finally summarize my long monologue, I would say that we should try this guitar without a-priori and think 2 times before slamming the wallet, if you should question his, go for it!
  
  if you think and find the les paul is pleasant to your ears, run away! (Ah ah!)
  
  well that's a guitar that has not given me want to dwell on the play ...
  
  damage, she seemed nice .... yes, she "seemed ".... soon for another! ah! ah!
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• 10/10/10

  Music0707's review ( translated ) Improve this translation " Guitar PRO balanced"

  Characteristics

  Guitar Japan:
  
  
  
  - Neck = Maple Rosewood
  
  - Basswood Body =
  
  - = W/6105 Frets
  
  - = Edge Tremolo bridge
  
  - Neck pickup DiMarzio Paf Joe =
  
  - Bridge pickup DiMarzio Fred =
  
  - Marine = Chrome
  
  - Color = Red only (damage)
  
  - Characteristics of the handle:
  
  * Size = 648mm/25.5 "
  
  * Width at top = 42mm
  
  * Width = 58mm last box
  
  * Thickness 1st fret = 20mm
  
  * Thickness = 22.3mm 12th fret
  
  * Radius = 250mmR
  
  - Games string = 09/42

  Utilization

  Like I said in the title is a very balanced guitar.
  
  
  
  The finish is good, except for me the string stopper who looks below the rest, shame!
  
  
  
  Its design is a great Fender.
  
  
  
  Whether in terms of weight, maneuverability and games, it gives me a reference in the genre. You feel very at ease quickly seated or even standing.
  
  
  
  The handle is shaped rather "round" and for me the chords are easy to install but are better anyway. And the solos are easy to make too but once again is better!
  
  Say it is a story of compromise is often the game is easier in agreement either solo or in earnest, both well balanced.
  
  
  
  Regarding the game at the right hand, I am sorry (but probably my fault) that the volume knob is as close as gradually as it happens unintentionally to fall ... Good is also the same problem on other guitars!
  
  
  
  on the other hand at the vibrato once the strings are in place, you can go merrily on, they go out of tune! For his part

  Sounds

  , well I would say Rebelote guitar = balanced balanced sound.
  
  
  
  The neck pickup is warm without being either a reference type and microphone treble do not break the ears ... They are powerful but not too much.
  
  So in his "clear" as its "saturated", the character of this guitar fits very well with all types of gear and covers all styles of music without a problem!
  
  But if you are looking for a type (Trash Metal, Rhythm 'n Blues, etc.) go your way ... this guitar is not for you.
  
  
  
  on the other hand, depending on the famous "High Pass Filter can be activated by switching the volume knob works fine ... nature sounds at low volume is indeed conserved, it works and it's not a gimmick more!

  Overall Opinion

  After 2 years of use, I am satisfied and I do not part with that for another of the same series.
  
  
  
  The quality / price was perfect for me in 2008 but at the time of writing this review we do affects more than a minimum of 1800 €, it becomes in my opinion a bit too much for this guitar ... but it still remains one of the best productions of the brand Ibanez.
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• 04/13/09

  gvpower's review ( translated ) Improve this translation

  Characteristics

  This Ibanez is manufactured in Japan by a team Specializes in Luxury MODELS,
  
  is the "Team J-Craft."
  
  
  
  MODEL 22-frets.
  
  -2 DiMarzio pickups, and a PAF Joe a Fred.
  
  Pro-edge tremolo type.
  
  -2 Knobs push-pull, a selector 3 pos.
  
  Channel 1 pice maple rosewood button.

  Utilization

  Of pure madness, pure pleasure in the State.
  
  
  
  my guitar before an Ibanez S470 silent, and I must say that for 600 is a super scratch when we start a little fan of the solo as Satriani. but after 2-3 years, I seem to have walk around, and the sound was beginning to make a noise like tinsel gimbarde old ... I had better scratch. and then with a friend, I tried the JS1000, and I must admit that comparing with the minne, j'tait sidr of the difference between the two imprssionnante MODELS. So 6 months of APRS connomies (and yes it is not given all of the same!), I order at my local supplier.
  
  
  
  a guitar is incredible finesse, compared to a mid-range guitar as my Ancinnes S470.
  
  you feel immediately at ease on it, not like a les paul not trs fine example.
  
  the finish is not perfect copy whatever is between the Jack, this candy red paint is super nice and flashy, you will not inaperu scratches with this!
  
  handle multi-radius, provided with fairly thin frets, is sliding fast and trs trs well.
  
  thanks to an inclined derrire the handle, the ACCS is most acute in the ISSA.
  
  the ergonnomie is incredible, the body is thin and super enjoyable, the weight is low for a relativment guitar solid basswood.
  
  get the faster is simple because there is no 36 setting, but if you dig ... it's harder.

  Sounds

  This guitar is one of the most versatile. I play hard-rock, rock, metal, blues and Satriani recess. there is no problem, but affordable styles are on this machine.
  
  I play on a Line6 spider75 III that reproduces the sounds of various amps and effects diversses, then I must say that it gnial! ago Satriani sounds even pre-program in this amp and it trs ressamblant! but now the amp is limited, I would have a real tube amp, but we are never happy with what we have!
  
  clean sounds are brilliant trs has a Manir Ibanez Sabre, but hot all the same. the palette of sounds is really the standard we have a lovely instrument of incredible finesse.
  
  its notes are saturated hyper prcises fuses and harmonics! the sound is powerful thanks to DiMarzio. it has the big war machine!
  
  vibrato is ecxellent though a bit hard to beginners compared to that of my ex-S470 that had nothing to do, but you get used to rev faster, the tuning is however quite difficult when you have never had a floyd guitar.
  
  all sounds are enjoyable, there's little splitter humbuckers into simple thanks to the push-pull knob Tone you lose power, but we gain in clarity strat style.
  
  comes from the little extra push pull volume that the operating, keeps a good acute low volume as it is fitted High-Pass Filter.

  Overall Opinion

  has now three months I have and I would say I'm not prs to go around. I really like the look of this guitar really looks like a jewel, it was fear of predre on hand to beginners because it is so beautiful!
  
  I really love the style "Statrianesque" of the skyscraper. if cpomparait with cars is really a Ferrari, plus it's red!
  
  I have not tried other models because it is the one I wanted!
  
  the report is qualitprix trs good, although I got it for 1530 and has increased in recent times was 1800, but in relation to performance is a ecxellent.
  
  It's a guitar with more characters that plairat RTISS, I even have a friend who swears by the Start and it really does bleuff this guitar.
  
  exprience with this choice I would do allgrement!
  
  My only big dception and is standard is that it does not make me play like Joe Satriani! ! ! and yes the tui they forget to put a small bag of "talent"
  
  for those who hsites, go for it head down, you do not regrterrez your choice. This is a solid, a REFERENCE MODEL trs and upscale. 10/10 in every respect. thank you for your opinion is a bit thanks to you that I bought it! ! !
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• 03/28/09

  Nexx 69's review ( translated ) Improve this translation

  Characteristics

  RAS

  Utilization

  RAS

  Sounds

  RAS

  Overall Opinion

  Trs good violin, trs round enjoyable and beautiful color.
  
  But BEWARE MICROS ...
  
  These are Di Marzio, we must love their typical grain "Compressquot; ...
  
  I prfre the "harmonics" of Seymour Duncan crystal clear, especially the sound of the SH4 Jeff Beck acute.
  
  So I will change the Di Marzio for Seymour
  
  Duncan.
  
  SH4 JB Trembucker in Bridge, and Pearly Gates Neck.
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• 12/17/08

  asseoa's review ( translated ) Improve this translation

  Characteristics

  The technical details are clearly presented in the previous post.
  
  
  
  Guitar excellent workmanship (made in Japan of course!).
  
  
  
  Note the jack (female) especially useful, especially designed for the cable through your strap.

  Utilization

  While the handle is more enjoyable to play, I do not feel too much difference with my Sabre S370 series, which is still lower quality.
  
  It is slightly rounded, which makes it more convenient still.
  
  
  
  Easy access to all of the handle, and you can easily use his left hand to hold the vibrato from below the handle. (For fans of harmonics typed JS)
  
  
  
  The particular profile of the body (the top end off the bottom, when you play standing) provides better visibility of the instrument played standing.
  
  
  
  Guitar rather light, as already stated.

  Sounds

  The sound is just crystal clear! the neck pickup is impressive depth and clarity! (See cool # 9) With or without saturation behind, guaranteed results!
  
  
  
  The microphone body is more aggressive, but always warm.
  
  Have easily play the metal by adding a good disto equalisée in / (ie less than treble bass).
  
  However, "it was Meant for rock!" (More than for the metal ...)
  
  
  
  The harmonics sound without problems, but better with a stronger pull than the original (9-46 instead of 9-42 for example).
  
  
  
  Nevertheless, we feel it is in the sound of a sharpened weapon for solo-ing!
  
  She is still using the versatile humbuckers into single detachable for rhythm.

  Overall Opinion

  I was probably one of the first in France to have this guitar. (August 2004 I believe.
  
  I buy on site to US ... even before its release.
  
  That is, the store shipped me the receipt. It has been available in France a few months after ... hahaha
  
  
  
  Okay it's wrong for our dear little shopping district, but ... for a total savings of € 500 at the time ... the choice was quickly made!
  
  € 1,200 all inclusive (plus shipping + custom hard case)
  
  
  
  A again, I'm starting again with closed eyes!
  
  
  
  After, Satch, we like it or not, but even for those who do not, know that this guitar alone is worth the trip!
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• 12/17/08

  asseoa's review ( translated ) Improve this translation

  Characteristics

  The technical details are clearly presented in the previous post.
  
  
  
  Guitar excellent workmanship (made in Japan of course!).
  
  
  
  Note the jack (female) especially useful, especially designed for the cable through your strap.

  Utilization

  While the handle is more enjoyable to play, I do not feel too much difference with my Sabre S370 series, which is still lower quality.
  
  
  
  Easy access to all of the handle, and you can easily use his left hand to hold the vibrato from below the handle. (For fans of harmonics typed JS)
  
  
  
  The particular profile of the body (the top end off the bottom, when you play standing) provides better visibility of the instrument played standing.
  
  
  
  Guitar rather light, as already stated.

  Sounds

  The sound is just crystal clear! the neck pickup is impressive depth and clarity! (See cool # 9) With or without saturation behind, guaranteed results!
  
  
  
  The microphone body is more aggressive, but always warm.
  
  Have easily play the metal by adding a good disto equalisée in / (ie less than treble bass).
  
  However, "it was Meant for rock!" (More than for the metal ...)
  
  
  
  The harmonics sound without problems, but better with a stronger pull than the original (9-46 instead of 9-42 for example).
  
  
  
  Nevertheless, we feel it is in the sound of a sharpened weapon for solo-ing!
  
  She is still using the versatile humbuckers into single detachable for rhythm.

  Overall Opinion

  I was probably one of the first in France to have this guitar. (August 2004 I believe.
  
  I buy on site to US ... even before its release.
  
  That is, the store shipped me the receipt. It has been available in France a few months after ... hahaha
  
  
  
  Okay it's wrong for our dear little shopping district, but ... for a total savings of € 500 at the time ... the choice was quickly made!
  
  € 1,200 all inclusive (plus shipping + custom hard case)
  
  
  
  A again, I'm starting again with closed eyes!
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