All user reviews for the Roland MV-8800

machine with connectors noon, audio, usb, with its own integrated DAW and can connect him a mouse and a screen

UTILIZATION

simple configuration and comprehensive manual in French very well done

SOUNDS

the original sounds are not bad if I remember correctly but the advantage of this machine is to inject our own samples, the pad are very good bill and the machine in general.

effects are a bit overwhelmed, there much better plugin ...

OVERALL OPINION

I had two and two dark points of the beast like any "mpc" hardware I would say is that it is not obvious to coexist in an environment that machine with a PC as if you wanted balance our individual tracks made on the mv in the PC, they had recorded a one (if one wanted our separate tracks on a DAW), taking care to synchronize the VM with the DAW pc otherwise the tracks were shifted therebetween ...

I finally switched to maschine which is more comprehensive we can control plugins more easily than the mv where one was obliged to open its DAW and configure the mv control plugins, and I have no regrets not my choice.

but it's true that it's a joy to manage everything on anything other than a pc, its changes and what I think is a more ergonomic solution for everything is well thought out on the mv.

but for people like me who need to go on a DAW for mixing tracks ENTERED it I do not recommend it because it's really long and it pulls the hair to sync DAW / MV ...

Config 'full, but even criticism lowest just 2 midi port and two audio output series ...

An effect section, a little light compared to, say, a mc909. 3 effects processor: 1 reverb, 1 chorus / delay, and only 1 multi purpose. But hey, it does, the resampling is so simple. re-assignment of samples too. Brief. false problem. Edge of wing and the effects are good.

well apparently the beast comes out as 44100/16 bit, which is a problem in the ingestion ... Conversely, take it up to 24 bit / 72000 Hz, therefore the same as for the MFX, Me, I'm satisfied.

On the bank of its delivery, the mythical drums, the drums mythical filtered, and bass sounds from Roland keyboard. nothing to climb the wall teme amount, but say it can be seen that the machine tape still not bad ... After that, well it's a sampler, ect. On the site MVO.org, there are plenty of sounding patch.

The sequencer is very comprehensive. Reason I had (that I've never touched) and I must admit that the sequencer is very well done. comprehensive. I'll talk.

Other kiffe and not least, the editing part: each sample (or sample copy) has its own LFO, and believe me that when you see the edit page, there's way to get pleasure there's way to get stuff from the sick the most incongruous. Basically, it is a full hyper synth that uses an external source like wave base table!! Kiffe X 10


UTILIZATION

The general configuration is it simple?

Frankly, it is quite special. even a little trip on the mpc: Program in which record the songs and patterns, the structure saved as a song / pattern, all part / patch corresponding to samples and their assignments and audio phrases correspond to audio fragment used in parallel. everything is exported individually.

it takes time to understand the usefulness and role of each function, but it is beautiful with this machine is that final, in terms of organization for the game, whether live or to a track, you can do everything kind resample whole sections of the instrument to rework with effects, then reassign or put aside for storing and re-playing in real time with another effect, ect ...

I'm a fan of the loop function "dynamic" (you can change the loop points and the size of the loops in real time) mode song, sequencing is linear in this mode, this function allows a process interesting game live or for mixdown (that is obtained by resampling).

we must understand that the song and pattern modes are actually parallel, except that you can use patterns to mount a song (the opposite is also possible with a little planning). patterns are accumulated and you can enchainer live. and is created parallel to that of the songs that peremttent enquillage patterns and the addition of other elements ..

Other cool stuff when we use the machine to drive counterparts, each pattern has it's called in "pattern play" message "start" is generated. knowing that we can assign a number and bank programmed for each pattern, basically no need to galérer with a parallel fashion song if for example sequenced parts of his piece on another machine .. short, there are plenty of little trick like this that are not clearly explained in the pavement, pardon the manual, but which become visible once the machine is apprehended in its entirety (which take roughly 6 months .. com)

Otherwise, big up the keypad which allows smooth navigation through menus.
especially as I use the machine without a mouse or screen.

mixdown and mastering modes are available any time the track ended. mixdown mode, the mix is ​​still accessible by a. Too bad we do not have access to otherwise mastering mode, basically, this is the last key that is applied to the piece and it is so full ... X preset, everything is editable for compression and limiting ... short, it is stupid not to be able to do a little more hand and not being able to dissect that under the influence of the excitement of the publication of a piece .. cellars if I'm clear ...


SOUNDS

good, well I do not have much of a point of comparison, especially since I'm not furiously looking for a hip-hop. Conversely, I think she sounds fat. and the possibility of "layerer" 4 samples (all configurable according to velocity, aftertouch and pan) for drums, it's pretty bad.
I noticed that samplant, it tends to reduce the volume, nothing serious, standardization is accessible for sampling. and at different times in the use of the sample (which is assigned to either a patch or a audiophrase. samples are stored in a manager sample (sample manager) which allows access individual samples without having to go through assigning the pads. This is useful when you wish to perform batch processing (normalization, deleter whole series of sample, or reassign your drums in another patch ...)

Expressiveness issue, the SMT is doing its job (see above), you can also set the default sensitivity of the pads. In short, it is complete.

Effects are apparently legendary Roland emulations effects. And there's the very very good. Maybe it's a bit of flanger and chorus: D

The synth board, accessible and squatting the only multi-purpose machine is very nice. dedicated low, you can get very analog, hyper grainy super uncertain. kiffe. and of course, the MFX is automated.

1 also effects processors dedicated to chorus / delay and reverb. They do their job quite well, each benefiting from its own back on the mixing of the different parts.

the mixing section, in fact, is also very comprehensive: one vote per patch, 4 voice which is ancillary to the road MFX, feedback and delay reverb / chorus, not the mute asignables and not by automated voice that can soloïser a patch over for resampling. Again, self-about the problem, there's a solution to make the mix as "tight" as possible.




OVERALL OPINION

I use it for two years and I could buy me a second ... I spent time, and I think Mrs. master. But beware, it is demanding. it takes time and understanding, even denial. Basically, if you do not want to spend too much time to get into its mysteries, I doubt she meets you. It is a beast. Hardware within the meaning of the term. It can do everything in its way, but it does, and well. It is ideal for driving, compose and manipulate the sound material. Really ideal.

negative points that I see are: a single multi-effect (at the plug-in is stingy and resampling can be annoying), access time loading a big session ( it can take a good quarter of an hour the 512 meg)
the sequencer application to read the instructions, and in general, the architecture of the bike is a bit esoteric at first (too much possibility ..)
Otherwise, go ben, this is good!

The Roland MV 8800 is an all out monster. You can do pretty much everything on it, I was in guitar center for about 3 hours just messing with it when they had it set up. It attracted me right away. Probably the only reason I didn’t purchase it is because of my MPC 5000 which is probably the only sampling sequencer that can compete with the MV 8800. The MV 8800 just provides so many things that you can do with your music. One of the main things that is crazy to me first is that you can hook up and monitor to it which is KEY. Because you don’t want to make a whole project on the built in back lit screen. Also, you can plug in a mouse for the internal software that it uses. Not to mention the ability to use software synths or vst’s right in the MV 8800. This might be the first of its kind, im surprised the mpc hasn’t implemented most of this stuff yet.


UTILIZATION

I cant say its really easy to understand all of the functions of it, it will take some time jus to get familiar with everything but Roland has made the MV 8800 about as simple as it possible could. So when using the MV 8800 for the first week or maybe more depending on your ability to learn fast you will need the manual. You will need to keep the manual close by too because has you keep moving forwared with your project you will hit a few bumpbs in the road that will keep you from moving forwared so you will need to look these things up fast.


SOUNDS

The sounds are realistic and the pads are great, not as good as a feel on the MPC line though but very close. Its as close as you will get to an MPC but you really cant compare it to the Akai MPC because this just does a lot more. So it will really come down to what you need out of a sampler?


OVERALL OPINION

Overall, I love it. Its pretty expensive though but its worth every penny. Plus I think they have a new model out for it or are working on one that is suppose to blow this one out of the water. It could be my next big purchase.

The Roland MV 800 allows the project to create a song mode and up to 96 patterns. From there, when is in pattern, you can switch the play pattern, which can trigger the reading of the patterns created through the pads (a function "wait" to specify the machine to read the pattern through a pad at the end of reading the current pattern, and function "immediate" because the pattern is read from the activation of the pad), and reading all the sentences of the audio track audio. Each pattern can maintain its own tempo and align with a global tempo set or editable during playback. Pattern Play mode, the sliders are functional, but can not change their assignment during playback.


UTILIZATION


In song mode, you have a past pattern function, which allows you to play a series of pattern live as we please, or make a song clean mode with all the pattern created.
We also have a function with the quantize grid modes, shuffle, and template (to give a little groove in the sequences).
To respond to some opinions, I want to point out some errors, there are shortcuts! I would say all that are needed are present note "erase event" and "delete" on the front, as well as for the locator, markers, loop and a host of other super practical.


SOUNDS


No complaints, the pads are great and fully programmable on all parameters midi. You can even assign up to five sounds per pad, so it was not over the fingers to wear them. If he adds a master keyboard was all it takes.

OVERALL OPINION

Overall, Good sampling machine, but you love the MPC’s then stick with them. This will allow you to do more, but it does not have the feel of the MPC that we all love. There are a lot of menus and sub menus that will confuse you. If you haven't used the MPC at all then go with this sample because its an all in one machine.

All caractériqtiques are available on the official websites (eg www.rolandus.com)
The connectors are perfect ... but it lacks a digital input of origin!

UTILIZATION

I recently (like 1 month) and have not found any shortcuts "keyboard" that I miss, like a button "delete" to delete selected notes or a shortcut to place locators and run loop. it should be possible but the manual is very succinct. As I bought OCCAZ I miss a small booklet "images" features in-depth so I an empirical approach!

SOUNDS

With regard to the sound that comes out I think it is "neutral" not especially handsome, but not particularly ugly "waiting to be processed." I grew up for years with the Ensoniq ASR 10 and a vestax HDR8 of that, they have a really "his" so it made me feel funny to hear the MV-8800! I'm not even gone to the completion of the project or song with effects, so I can not even speak.

OVERALL OPINION

Approximately one month I have: I will complete this review in more detail. One thing is certain: I had purchased almost exclusively for his role as real-time time stretch and am very disappointed. The audiophrases are very poor, even by giving complete information about the sample (bpm origin, time, ect. I am now "chopper" loops to change the bpm is saying! Soon to be a change of firmware fix it?







Added September 28, 2009:



With the practice of looping / tempo I say YES, it works!

- What connections (audio, MIDI ...)?

midi / digital / jack

- How many sounds and styles available? Are they edited? Through a utility Mac / PC?

Unfortunately, not much when you buy it, as often with roland you have to buy always buy or démerder for sounds. pc connection with possible what is convenient for importing, but then should not be pressed because it is not the hard drive a thunderbolt of war!

- Has he an effects section?

yes

- What are the characteristics of the sequencer? ...

nice but long, lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng! otherwise easy to use.

UTILIZATION

- The general configuration is it simple?
- The usual functions are they easily accessible?
correct, but really easy to handle due to the vga! I strongly recommend connecting a monitor.

- The manual is clear and sufficient? ...

indigestible not "see page 50 and page 200 page 257 and finally to have the solution!" he will walk and often it is written in a dialect unknown to me anyway

SOUNDS

The unlike the computer, it is clear that there is no picture! the sound is never really nickel unwanted noise, never crashes, very stable, not heat, brief on this point it makes a difference with the software windob and yet I bike in the heavy ...

OVERALL OPINION

-I "used" a few months, I put in quotes because so drunk a swallow the manual that was burst by but by the time I had fun.

what I love most about her: her beauty is very successful, strong and sober. the sound that comes out is very good and it is a very complete machine.

what I like least: machine headlock, complicated and very slow!

- How would you rate the quality / price?

hard to tell because developing such a machine should not be obvious.

- With experience, you do again this choice? ...

non! -simply because the concept is great, but the concern is that between the moment when he looks at the creation of a model of this style "design, production, production etc ..." technology has since evolved PCBS! the fact that when it comes to the general public, its equipment is already obsolete (disk / memory) and makes it slow in terms of what is being done now! it's like I recognize you from an old hard drive 40g scratching a death in your bike today! I will not say the mouth quickly you get used to the luxury of speed loool
Finally I will briefly say that I have not hooked, but it is only my opinion.

too slow, too headlock and a manual stunning and for me the music is above all a pleasure, not a torture every night or you have the impression not to advance

Everything is stated in the manual. For now, that good enough for me.

UTILIZATION

I saw in the previous opinion of people complain about the length of the manual. It must learn to like all As and go dig in the chapters concerned with the difficulties. It's sure if the tape is 500 pages in a row.

Anyway, for my part I not following a raw I got it mainly. I do my prods and I still have many features to explore including the mastering section.

SOUNDS

I've always had a pb and my drums for the first time I feel that it shakes a minimum. I think if m is the subjective sound to a particular color.

OVERALL OPINION

For almost eight months I use it and I referrer this choice without hesitation. People who want to oppose software .. is not understood to me mv c an instrument. For my part, I do all the sampling part of the mv and rhythmic and I return to my apps for compo. This is a sampler with happiness. For example, earlier I was trying not to work my samples in terms of effects but here with you mv ASCE side touch drives me to try stuff. In short, this is my first machine hardware, I do hip hop and it suits me 100%.

- What connections (audio, MIDI ...)?

So it was an original MIDI IN (only!), 2 MIDI OUT (only!! X10), a stereo master output, a headphone output, two digital outputs (one optical), RCA phono input for turntables with the notch to the ground and a stereo line input jack on.

- How many sounds and styles available? Are they edited? Through a utility Mac / PC?

Patch at the factory were a few things simpa (fx vox, synth, strings, key, horns, guitar, drumkits, bass). The pianos are well damn, the drums are clean and slamming, brass rather realistic. Y'en but not that much in the end, we must not forget that the primary sampler is therefore the most interesting of course bring your own sounds ...
Yes factory patches are editable, and for partial therein. We can of course also import sounds from a PC.

- Has he an effects section?

The effects section is to go with a whole pannel roland super efficient as usual. However, we can only use three effects per project (1 MFX, a delay / chorus and a reverb). Fortunately Re-sampling function is there to compensate.

- What are the characteristics of the sequencer? ...

So nivo sequencer is the bomb: both in song mode or pattern mode, we are dealing with a sequencer which is defined as the number of the cutting of the main interface in the number of black and measure tempo, normal.
The sequencer includes up to 128 MIDI tracks song mode and 51 mode pattern, which you can assign MIDI OUT A and B 16 or patch used simultaneously per project. MIDI tracks are published in rec mode (overdub1, 2 and replace), or via a pianoroll a drum grid divided up the five-eighth (hello mega rolls!) And of course an event list to manage poly aftertouch, control change, program change, channel aftertouch, ptich bend, tune request, method and system exclusive message.
It also includes eight song AudioTrack mode and a mode pattern, which can each include 96 audioprahses.

Large positive again, the sequencer allows the project to create a song mode and up to 96 patterns. From there, when is in pattern, you can switch the play pattern, which can trigger the reading of the patterns created through the pads (a function "wait" to specify the machine to read the pattern through a pad at the end of reading the current pattern, and function "immediate" because the pattern is read from the activation of the pad), and reading all the sentences of the audio track audio. Each pattern can maintain its own tempo and align with a global tempo set or editable during playback. Pattern Play mode, the sliders are functional, but can not change their assignment during playback.
In song mode, you have a past pattern function, which allows you to play a series of pattern live as we please, or make a song clean mode with all the pattern created.
We also have a function with the quantize grid modes, shuffle, and template (to give a little groove in the sequences).
To respond to some opinions, I want to point out some errors, there are shortcuts! I would say all that are needed are present note "erase event" and "delete" on the front, as well as for the locator, markers, loop and a host of other super practical.

In short, a sequencer almost perfect, regrets against the presence of a feature as the groovebox, as functions loop remix, midi delay, gate, time stretch and so accessible from the front ... damage, we would have reached perfection.

Regarding the speed of the machine, I heard a lot of question, so I'll try to answer the best: to load a large project, and I mean a BIG, yes, there it is clear that slow, live, we better be organized.
To listen to samples "that are not yet registered in the project", if the wav is instantaneous, if it's a patch, there is a little longer, they may exceed the miniute if Each part takes a lead and there are miles batting ... Normal what. Finally, once loaded, 0 latency.

Big flats, first MIDI ... seriously, two midi out to a hardware sequencer with 128 MIDI tracks max is really light! The same goes for the audio outputs ... Unless you socket for a map MV8-OP1, here it is super full, but it is abused! The MPC factory are much more equipped. So I am not 10.

UTILIZATION

- The general configuration is it simple?

Little we know at least the machines is more Enfantin. With the mouse and the screen becomes even ca much easier than any software computer music. The edition of the sequences is super easy, edition of the samples really deadly. For the chop can be done manually or use the AutoChop which is cut according to a volume level determined either by a nobmre divisions defined or detected by the tempo (of the eighth round triple dotted).

- The usual functions are they easily accessible?

Yes there's nothing clearer and simpler, everything is displayed or accessible through the buttons on the front ...
And once you are there it is again very convenient, clear and effective.

- The manual is clear and sufficient? ...

I had to open two or three times at the beginning ... It's so simple. For there to say against it is damn ... Say they are content to list and describe each function without explaining ... Roland is what.

SOUNDS

- The sounds they are suitable to your style of music?

Sounds? what sounds? those of plant? lol if we limit ourselves to that, we will not super far from sure. But is this really what we ask? If so, it's not the machine for you. When you choose a machine like that, and at that price, it's still the minimum of what you buy to avoid criticism utlérieurement futile.
Having said that, for samples, different sounds and patches imported, once it is in the bug, some effects, a compressor and pti ca potato race! Ugh! I just sampled everything from dusty vinyl 70's with a big bass futureretro, leads to ptits access patterns with my guitar ... Ni-Kel.

- Are they realistic?

Patches of plants are so pretty.

- The effects are they effective and responsive?

Roland effects of the bomb is, y 'has a whole bunch, compressors, effects for voices, guitars, bass, etc etc.
The limit does not being able to use only 3 per project as I said above, but the function re-sampling can compensate.

- The expression is good? (Response to velocity, aftertouch to)?

No complaints, the pads are great and fully programmable on all parameters midi. You can even assign up to five sounds per pad, so it was not over the fingers to wear them. If he adds a master keyboard was all it takes.

OVERALL OPINION

- How long have you use it?

Not far from one and a half now. I use it as a master and it controls a rs7000, virus ti, and the clock a retro future and a KAOSS pad. And I must say they all get along wonderfully.

- What is so special that you like most and least?

The special, notable in my opinion, is the pattern play mode ... it's really huge, we just make lives of calibrated, changes in theme, tempo on the fly, a real treat.

- Have you tried many other models before buying it?

Yes I have an RS7000, I tested a lot of machines with Korg, Akai, Rolan, yam ... But it's different, it's not a groovebox. Its direct competitors in terms of how it works in combination the mpc, and it is far, far ahead trèèèèèès.

- How would you rate the quality / price?

Frankly at that price, they should have at Roland put the card MV8-OP1. This is unacceptable.
Ormis this detail, it's still a pure bomb.

- With experience, you do again this choice? ...

Oh yes. And I can say that any musical styles can be addressed with this machine, the large electro hip-hop, through the bigbeat, break beat, triphop, etc ... I even made with the dub.
It is ideal in the center of the studio of those who refuse to deal on a PC.

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UTILIZATION

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SOUNDS

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OVERALL OPINION

Well here is the step has been crossed and I bought this machine ....

Not to say it's beautiful, it's solid pro, the sound is superb short, a beautiful machine.

Unpacking:

1 - always a bad habit of Roland in a French manual and the other in English (Mr Roland when you understand that there are not only speaking on earth ..?)

2 - lighting of the beast (with the manual or green side) display in English because Mr Roland still do not know (unlike other manufacturers) that it is possible to choose a different display languages.

3 - the machine was designed by computer and for computer musicians who are not perfectly made for MIDI and browsing the multitude of parameters and floundering as it is not the book that really helps it becomes very quickly digest.

4 - why make it simple when you can do (very) complicated, it is certainly the credo of Roland, who does not know yet when it is developing such a machine and if you want it must make career it can be used by anyone and therefore it has at least two levels of operation has editable initiation (basic mode and expert mode).

5 - the first mode allows easy handling and quick basic functions, eliminating all sharp editing functions and transformations of the sons.Et ago from work to find.

6 - When the user is able to deftly navigate in the first mode may switch to expert mode.

7 - The main problem of this machine is its chronic lack of ergonomics for a normal user, nothing is simple for any issue is through a number of functions and pages that make working INDIGESTION and above increases risk of errors and mishandling.

8 - It would certainly be too simple to have a section for recording sound to be classified into families with 2 or 3 floors the first for the raw sound and others sound the same but changed through the various possible parameters. Ditto for phrases or loops ....

9 - The design of this machine is a Ferrari which we have changed the injectors and put a stop screw that would not allow the average driver to have fun, or a pilot Aeroclub be given a small plane with a dashboard and use type Air Bus 380.

I must say that I have for many years other instruments Roland (keyboards) and major (in my opinion) failure are always associated with the ergonomics issue as soon as one leaves the bases of operation.

I'm also on Mac for 20 years with 5 machines that run for various jobs and course of computer music and fortunately that publishers are making more efforts in ergonomics Roland.

Conclusion: I asked for the resumption of the machine and if new investment is made, it will be in a big Mac with computer music and beautiful VST.

I read in various places that a lot of people was funny lack of interest in this machine from users like her face has a small distribution Akai MPC 5000. The price is not everything and in my opinion is not the main point is much more a question of usability and ergonomics. There are manufacturers who are at the user level and those who put themselves at their BE engineers who think it is short the customer has to adjust them when the reality is the opposite ... .

CAUTION as indicated earlier post, nothing wrong about the strength, the look or quality of sound (well those in the machine) is material for a pro but an elite .....

(Originally written by le.ti.ardennais/translated from Audiofanzine FR)

- Types of connections (audio, MIDI, etc.):

Midi, digital, analog

- How many presets and programs are available? Are they editable? With a Mac/PC software?

Unfortunately not many presets included, which is so often the case with Roland. You'll have to buy expansion cards or find another trick to get sounds. You can connect it to a PC, which is very convenient to import data, but you'll have to be patient because the hard drive isn't the fastest!

- Does the unit have an effects section?

Yes

- Sequencer features:

Lots and lots.... very nice indeed. Otherwise it's easy to use.

UTILIZATION

- Is it easy to make settings?
- Is it easy to access the main functions?
It's ok but it's easier with the VGA option! I recommend you to use a screen.

Is the user's manual clear and comprehensive?

Not very helpful: "In order to solve th problem see page 50 then page 200 and then page 257(!)" It's like a riddle and it is often written in a dialect I don't know

SOUNDS

There is no comparison to a computer! The sound is really perfect, no noise, no system crashes, very stable, no overheating problems. These are the main advantages compared to using software with Windows, even though I have a really powerful computer...

OVERALL OPINION

- I've "used" it only a few months because the manual is so awful that I've had to really work in fits and starts but I do have fun sometimes.

I love its looks and sturdiness. The sound is very good and its a very a comprehensive piece of gear.

I hate its complexity, it's irritating, and it is also very, very slow!

- How would you rate its value for money?

It's not an easy task to rate such a product.

- Based on your experience, would you buy this product again?

No!!! Although the concept is great, the technology is already obsolete because of the long conception and production time needed to develop such a product. As a result, when the unit comes out some of its components (like HDD/memory) are already too slow compared to other products. It's almost like installing an old 40 Gb hard disk in a modern computer! We all love high speed!
In short, this unit didn't convince me, but that's only my opinion.

It's too slow, too irritating and the manual is awful. For me, music ought to be a pleasure not a torture every evening when you know that your project isn't going to get anywhere