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- Cuki79Published on 01/10/10 at 02:37 (This content has been automatically translated from French)00
- RestyPublished on 01/13/10 at 02:38 (This content has been automatically translated from French)00
- G. HagenPublished on 04/29/10 at 13:00 (This content has been automatically translated from French)00
- the ephemeralPublished on 11/26/09 at 12:35 (This content has been automatically translated from French)00
- zjulos
after the BR600, the dp 008
Published on 06/29/10 at 03:22 (This content has been automatically translated from French)everything is said in other reviews ...
USE
very simple
SONORITS
there's good
NOTICE GLOBAL
I sold my BR600 for DP008
the more the DP 008: simpler less effect and no rhythm box, phantom power supply there is no on br, more physical knobs, memory card of greater capacity and more standard as the br.
Cons: simpler less effect and no rhythm box (but this is also a plus depending on what you need ..
the equalizer as the br 600 is not great, a real little equalizer would be welcome
in short, I'm pretty happy to have my updat br 600 to 008 dp00 - cyrb
FOR EARLY MODEL IS COOL
Published on 08/21/13 at 11:56 (This content has been automatically translated from French)QUITE SIMPLE TO USE, THIS IS VERY PRACTICAL TASCAM, SPACE-SAVING AND GIVES AN INCOME MORE THAN SATISFIED .. MUCH I LOVE THIS SIDE IS REDUCED TO WHETHER EASILY PORTABLE ..
UTILIZATION
CONFIGURATION simle .. YOU CAN SPEND SOME TIME BUT GOOD paufiner RENDERING IN WORTH. THE MANUAL IS ALSO VERY WELL DONE
SOUNDS
SOUND LEVEL RESPECT IT YAA DRINKING AND DINING ... AS SAID ABOVE MUST paufiner A LITTLE
OVERALL OPINION
I LOVE A LOT SA EASE OF USE, ITS VERY PRACTICAL SIDE FOR TRANSPORT AND LEVEL VALUE FOR MONEY, VERY FRANKLY This IS CORRECT .. THIS IS NOT A BAD CHOICE.44 - cornelius
Small but not very sturdy
Published on 03/27/13 at 15:48 (This content has been automatically translated from French)DVR SD card. Recording two tracks, eight tracks playing. 16 bit 44.1 kHz.
UTILIZATION
The device is very simple to use. We consult the manual on a few points (export files, for example), but overall, if you know how to use a microwave or a washing machine, you are qualified to register with the DP-008. The potentiometers are handy. The manual is clear.
Note that formatting the SD card and the (long) file conversion. Waw are a little baroque, but it's just history to be rude
SOUNDS
Regarding sound business spoil a little. Let us: for the price, and given that for which the unit is designed, DP-008 is not to throw away, but he is not blameless.
1. The headphone a…Read moreDVR SD card. Recording two tracks, eight tracks playing. 16 bit 44.1 kHz.
UTILIZATION
The device is very simple to use. We consult the manual on a few points (export files, for example), but overall, if you know how to use a microwave or a washing machine, you are qualified to register with the DP-008. The potentiometers are handy. The manual is clear.
Note that formatting the SD card and the (long) file conversion. Waw are a little baroque, but it's just history to be rude
SOUNDS
Regarding sound business spoil a little. Let us: for the price, and given that for which the unit is designed, DP-008 is not to throw away, but he is not blameless.
1. The headphone amp is outrageous: it introduces breath and proves clearly undersized if you plug in a headset with a little serious impedance exceeds headphones all-comers. It was still a pleasant surprise, once the files transferred to a computer sequencer, to see that blizzard steppe fell.
2. The pre-amps are in my opinion the biggest weakness: difficult to exploit them seriously, including pickups with high output (KM184, C414). Entering in line for a preamp is much better and there is less shame the result. I said I'm still pretty intolerant breath ...
Converters do their job. Again, no need to compare them with the studio equipment, but the momentum is not ridiculous.
The reverb is correct and has the luxury to be configurable.
OVERALL OPINION
In conclusion, Tascam is a concept very attractive, a well made and ergonomic. Too bad as it is, ie without meaning to my preamp out, it can allow some serious recordings and remains confined to the role of musical notepad. The day the same fate Tascam unit with preamp DR-680, DP-008 is terrible, which is not the case now.See less94 - ZeuStefPublished on 03/13/13 at 04:06 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Connectivity is sufficient (2 inputs IN) that can record two tracks simultaneously.
External microphones can record live (not tested)
The backup is on a removable sdram.
The general characteristics are sufficient for home studio use
UTILIZATION
For me, the strong point compared to competitors.
No need to read the manual, the ergonomics are excellent and everything makes sense. The operations are reduced and the "pots" facilitate physical settings.
The only downside is the lack of "action" for recording. The only disponbibles units are the units of time (minutes, seconds and 10zièmes) damage.
SOUNDS
Little breath, gain correct.
Very satisfactory
OVERALL…Read moreConnectivity is sufficient (2 inputs IN) that can record two tracks simultaneously.
External microphones can record live (not tested)
The backup is on a removable sdram.
The general characteristics are sufficient for home studio use
UTILIZATION
For me, the strong point compared to competitors.
No need to read the manual, the ergonomics are excellent and everything makes sense. The operations are reduced and the "pots" facilitate physical settings.
The only downside is the lack of "action" for recording. The only disponbibles units are the units of time (minutes, seconds and 10zièmes) damage.
SOUNDS
Little breath, gain correct.
Very satisfactory
OVERALL OPINION
I've had it 2 months and I use it all the time for backtracks for live recordings ... it is used as a magneto classic, simple and intuitive.
I had the Boss BR80 which has more features but usability is questionable. The TASCAM DP008 records and returns, there is "only" but it does it well. I recommend it.See less81 - JimboSpins
Affordable, Durable, Portable
Published on 12/11/12 at 23:13The Tascam DP-008 is affordable and portable. It is small and lightweight; take it with you anywhere to record. It records and allows you to get your files into your computer via USB. It does have a built in microphone preamps. These preamps are not the best in the world but they will do just fine with a decent microphone.
UTILIZATION
You can record up to 2 tracks simultaneously with the dP-008 and it has 2 XLR mic inputs both with phantom power. It comes with a chromatic tuner and metronome built into it that was a great extra unexpected feature to have in a unit for this price range. This portable recorded is also durable, out of all of the times that I have used it; it has bee…Read moreThe Tascam DP-008 is affordable and portable. It is small and lightweight; take it with you anywhere to record. It records and allows you to get your files into your computer via USB. It does have a built in microphone preamps. These preamps are not the best in the world but they will do just fine with a decent microphone.
UTILIZATION
You can record up to 2 tracks simultaneously with the dP-008 and it has 2 XLR mic inputs both with phantom power. It comes with a chromatic tuner and metronome built into it that was a great extra unexpected feature to have in a unit for this price range. This portable recorded is also durable, out of all of the times that I have used it; it has been dropped and even stepped on before while in a bag of mine and it never stopped working.
SOUNDS
I love how you can run this with AA batteries so that no matter where you are you can make music and do not have to always have it plugged in. It does come with a power supply though so you don’t have to worry about using batteries all the time or going out and buying the power supply.
OVERALL OPINION
As far as effects, you will not get many of them just some reverb. It would have been nice to have more effects but at this price I am surprised it has reverb and 2 band EQ controls on each channel. All of the knobs on the front of the unit are pretty well made and feel like they should be on an expensive recorder. The track wheel that works the screen functions is even pretty good and not cheaply made. If I could make one change with the DP-008 it would be to make the display screen a little more vibrant. It looks dull when looking at it in all light sources. But that is something minor compared to how great this affordable recorder actually is.See less20 - aldejerphPublished on 06/14/11 at 04:06 (This content has been automatically translated from French)- How long have you use it?
3 / 4 months but very occasionally
- Have you tried many other models before buying it?
Not
- What is so special that you like best
Can record a demo pretty quickly and a backing track to practice on a solo instance.
I think it has a tuner which is a nice touch
- What is so special that you like the least?
1. On the one hand we can only record two tracks simultaneously. It can generate some who would like his group in a registry renewal decision
Moreover 2.By way the menu navigation is not particularly intuitive and it is often necessary to resume the manual for some operations
3. The metronome is not loud and I get around the track by reco…Read more- How long have you use it?
3 / 4 months but very occasionally
- Have you tried many other models before buying it?
Not
- What is so special that you like best
Can record a demo pretty quickly and a backing track to practice on a solo instance.
I think it has a tuner which is a nice touch
- What is so special that you like the least?
1. On the one hand we can only record two tracks simultaneously. It can generate some who would like his group in a registry renewal decision
Moreover 2.By way the menu navigation is not particularly intuitive and it is often necessary to resume the manual for some operations
3. The metronome is not loud and I get around the track by recording a pb battery
- How would you rate the quality / price?
Excellent, I never imagined 10 years ago have an 8-track digital home
- With experience, you do again this choice?
Yes !!!!!
As a side note, there are two types of entries for each track (line and microphone)See less21 - Cuki79Published on 01/10/10 at 04:12 (This content has been automatically translated from French)• 8-track • 2-track recording • Simultaneous (2) XLR inputs with phantom power • (2) 6.35 jack inputs, one that can switch to guitar input (direct) • 1 pedal to the punch-in ( order of registration) • RCA Output • 1 stereo mini jack output for headphones / • Supply 4 R6 (AA) batteries (included) or PS-P520 Transformer (optional, as 30 euros) • chromatic tuner + metronome integrated • • Stereo Reverb Controls Volume, Balance and 2-band EQ for each track • Registration • Backup 44.1kHz/16-bit SD and SDHC up to 32GB. • USB 2.0 Connection to export files / 2GB Card • The mix SD, USB cable, Batteries included • 2 • omnidirectional electret microphones backlit LCD audio inputs and outputs Mic / L…Read more• 8-track • 2-track recording • Simultaneous (2) XLR inputs with phantom power • (2) 6.35 jack inputs, one that can switch to guitar input (direct) • 1 pedal to the punch-in ( order of registration) • RCA Output • 1 stereo mini jack output for headphones / • Supply 4 R6 (AA) batteries (included) or PS-P520 Transformer (optional, as 30 euros) • chromatic tuner + metronome integrated • • Stereo Reverb Controls Volume, Balance and 2-band EQ for each track • Registration • Backup 44.1kHz/16-bit SD and SDHC up to 32GB. • USB 2.0 Connection to export files / 2GB Card • The mix SD, USB cable, Batteries included • 2 • omnidirectional electret microphones backlit LCD audio inputs and outputs Mic / Line A / B (balanced): XLR- 3-31 Input Impedance: 2.4 kOhm Nominal input level: -8 dBu Maximum input level: +8 dBu Mic / Line A / B (asymmetric): 6.3-mm phone jack Input Impedance : 10 kOhm Nominal input level: -10 dBV Maximum input level: +6 dBV Guitar Input A (switch in position GUITAR): 6.35 mm connector jack Input Impedance: 1 Mohm Nominal input level : -10 dBV Maximum input level: +6 dBV Line Output (Unbalanced): RCA connector Nominal output level: -10 dBV Maximum output level: +6 dBV Headphone Output: Connector on 3.5mm stereo mini-jack mm Maximum power output: 2 x 20 mW (for 1% THD + N, 32 Ohm load)
Audio characteristics Frequency response (input Mic/Line-> Line Out): 20 Hz to 20 kHz Distortion (inlet Mic/Line-> Line Out): <0.05% Signal to Noise ratio (of entry Mic/Line-> Line Out):> 81 dB
Windows Minimum: Pentium 300 MHz or faster 128 MB RAM or higher USB port (USB 2.0 recommended) Mac OS: Power PC, iMac, G3, G4 266 MHz or faster 64 MB RAM or higher USB port (USB 2.0 recommended) USB Host Controller recommended: Intel OS: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 Macintosh: Mac OS X 10.2 or later
Additional features Built-in microphones: 2, electret, omnidirectional Recording Media: SD card (capacity: 512 MB - 2 GB) or SDHC card (capacity: 4 GB - 32 GB) File system: System partition tape: TASCAM owner Partition Audio FAT: FAT32 USB: Connector Type Mini-B compatible with USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 (USB 2.0 recommended) Input DC IN: 5 V DC (AC adapter PS-P520 only, sold separately) Batteries: 4 x LR06 [aa] (alkaline or Ni-MH) Battery life (measured with alkaline batteries): Recording: approx. 5.5 hours (phantom power off) Playback: Approx. The 6 hours battery life may vary depending on conditions of use consumption: 2.4 W Accessories supplied: 2 GB SD Card Cable: USB LR0P6 4 alkaline (AA) Dimensions (W x H x D): 221 mm x 127 mm x 36 mm Weight: 0.61 kg (without batteries)
UTILIZATION
I find it very easy to use and very complete. Before, I had a Roland VG880EX and an old Portastudio to K7 so I used to use these animals but it is very simple. Furthermore, it is truly portable and robust! The buttons are quite small so I recommend the "fat fingers" but they are very good if you consider other products such as miniature type BOSS BR or Zoom H2 (I also). The pros: * Very compact (fits in the pocket of a big bag of guitar without becoming unusable) * Very easy to use: there are 5 minutes away * Solid and well built (for my taste) * Complete level "registration" : It's very easy to move in time with the scroll wheel with which you can scroll through the hours, minutes, seconds to choose depending on the degree of accuracy ... We can identify two points of the song easily and save them. We can then make continuous loops and re-record the same passage of a song without affecting the rest. It's classic but well done. * I think all the basic functions are accessible by a key and most advanced in 3 hits max. However, do not think you'll replace Cubase! I think we see it as a tool components, which can take anywhere and use anywhere. It's very complementary to a POD for example. I like the idea that there are not too many options at the con as the product competition. It is not everything, but he does it well. Because the drum and amp simus ZOOM ... I have already given. * There are 500 levels of undo. Basically, you can record 500 shots and then return the 267th in 2 clicks! A stroll through history and presto! * The manual is in paper and in French! Me I'm a little crazy but for some it matters so much to be said * all + big criticisms that were made to the DP-004 are corrected. The flats (mainly due to size): * For "transfer" of the tracks you have to press a little manipulation. It would have been simpler to put it directly on the buttons rec ... * To make an instant return to zero you have to press two buttons ... With VG880EX there was a button ... But hey, given the size we will not complain either (and then the buttons are off). * I find the output level a bit low for headphones for my taste ... * There are a few blows on the headphones when you push the level to 9-10, he could put a better quality amp on the headset jack but ... It is not critical. * The batteries do not last very long ... but I bought the PSU (29euros) so I do not care. Otherwise must provide for rechargeable batteries.
NB: Very handy button that allows entry Mic-ligne/Guitare to move from an impedance of 10 kOhm to 1 MOhm on the jack: So, anything goes (guitar electro, bass, electric guitar ...) no need of DI box.
SOUNDS
* I find the A / D and D / A great! * The preamps are as good, of course, they add a little noise at the end of races ... Well there is no miracle either. The result is very clean and very transparent, and there you need to gain my SM58 without adding noise. Because mics, I hesitated a lot with Zoom R16 because I like my ZOOM H2 but I'm not disappointed. Same is clean and transparent. * The reverb makes a huge plus. * I have not tried the equalizer, but does not need it is a good sign right?
OVERALL OPINION
I'm very glad I did not have long but I think we'll be very old with my boyfriend as 4-track K7. Sure some will say that the R16 ZOOM offers plenty of opportunities for more than just dough ... But I'll tell them to beware. I admit that the H2 had fouttu a slap but overall I remain wary with ZOOM. Brief mount small models on the couch is great. If you want to do more, buy a real sound card (8 inputs rack) and a real sequencer (Cubase, ProTools, Logic). Like: Size, solid housing, ease of use, the undo-history and its very clean and very transparent. I do not like: The key combination to mute ... it's still difficult to assign functions to the REC (REC / PLAY MUTE) ... it is they can change it by reprogramming the firmware ... One can dream. The volume a bit low in the earphones ... Obviously I bought right away, this toy is a blast. NB: There can only record two tracks at once, so it is especially dedicated to the solitary musician.See less40 - RestyPublished on 02/01/10 at 13:05 (This content has been automatically translated from French)HB 008 is the Tasacm pocket studio.
XLR / Jack / USB
8 TRACKS.
ENRGISTREMENT two simultaneous tracks;
Map 2 (supplied) to 32 GB.
Batteries or power adapter to buy more.
UTILIZATION
The manual is a model of simplicity. Explanations and drawings; Everything is logical and simple. Pure happiness.
SOUNDS
Everything is quality.
OVERALL OPINION
I tried Boss 900 cd, 600 Boss, Korg D880, Fostex Mr8mkII.
They all sound quality reverbs and saf distos the Fostex.
Here little effect but the buttons (volume, pan, reverb.
Big screen so small but legible handwriting.
This is the best recorders within 600 euros.Un pure happiness.
More puzzles to be found…Read moreHB 008 is the Tasacm pocket studio.
XLR / Jack / USB
8 TRACKS.
ENRGISTREMENT two simultaneous tracks;
Map 2 (supplied) to 32 GB.
Batteries or power adapter to buy more.
UTILIZATION
The manual is a model of simplicity. Explanations and drawings; Everything is logical and simple. Pure happiness.
SOUNDS
Everything is quality.
OVERALL OPINION
I tried Boss 900 cd, 600 Boss, Korg D880, Fostex Mr8mkII.
They all sound quality reverbs and saf distos the Fostex.
Here little effect but the buttons (volume, pan, reverb.
Big screen so small but legible handwriting.
This is the best recorders within 600 euros.Un pure happiness.
More puzzles to be found in textbooks functioning, translations done wrong, submenus ...
Everything is clear, clear, simple. A model for all devices in the world.
It's small, lightweight, and excellent.L recording becomes a pleasure.See less30 - tremolojackPublished on 03/06/10 at 18:39 (This content has been automatically translated from French)8 tracks, 2 tracks simultaneous recording, recording on SD or SDHC cards (up to 32GB, 2GB included), records and accepts only 16-bit 44.1khz, runs on 4 AA batteries or an optional adapter (ps- 520), 2 jack inputs, 2 XLR inputs, phantom power, footswitch input, stereo condenser microphone built. Tuner (very functional), metronome, reverb, 2-band equalizer.
UTILIZATION
The unit itself is very well designed, very intuitive, very clear. What is less clear is the transfer of files (tracks, Masters or tracks) with the computer. Nothing complicated, just that it lacks clarity: I thought that by buying enough to connect and then draw in the recorded tracks. You actually have to export th…Read more8 tracks, 2 tracks simultaneous recording, recording on SD or SDHC cards (up to 32GB, 2GB included), records and accepts only 16-bit 44.1khz, runs on 4 AA batteries or an optional adapter (ps- 520), 2 jack inputs, 2 XLR inputs, phantom power, footswitch input, stereo condenser microphone built. Tuner (very functional), metronome, reverb, 2-band equalizer.
UTILIZATION
The unit itself is very well designed, very intuitive, very clear. What is less clear is the transfer of files (tracks, Masters or tracks) with the computer. Nothing complicated, just that it lacks clarity: I thought that by buying enough to connect and then draw in the recorded tracks. You actually have to export the tracks you want from the tascam partition of the memory card to the FAT partition for transferring files ... Mind you, it has its good sides, it grows to the organization.
CAUTION, the unit is sold without AC adapter and an adapter that is specific to tascam. I suggest you buy it if your 8-track will eventually exploded against a wall due to nervous breakdown ... This thing eats batteries like it grew on trees, you stand about 5 hours with 4 batteries and it runs fast!
Overall it is very pleasant to use.
SOUNDS
Level effects, the minimum service in these times: 2-band EQ and reverb. I like the reverb, it makes it really good and it can be adjusted very precisely, there are 6 types (Hall 1 and 2, room, studio flat 1 and 2).
The microphone is just good, I put him fair. Say it is very useful when you want to save battery without running vampirize past 2am in a sudden phantom power.
No superfluous, no surprises either.
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for a month and is a very good "Portastudio" whose role is clearly not replace your favorite sequencer. Its strong point is its small size, add simplicity, reliability, phantom power, you have everything you need to capture moments of inspiration without having to slip through microphone stands to light a computer speakers, 42 different devices and varied and more ... Oh and buy the adapter is essential!See less30 - ColomboPublished on 04/05/10 at 01:13 (This content has been automatically translated from French)_Petit, Light, we lug around everywhere ...
_Sait Be forgotten
_Enregistrement 16 bit
_Micros Correct internal, usable
_Préamp Good
_Prise Guitar with a nice sound
_no Moving parts, completely silent
_Phantom Power
_Alim Battery (autonomy rather weak) or sector (transformer not included)
UTILIZATION
_manual Very clear in French
_Prise Easily in hand
_Use Intuitive
_The Portability, the nomad side provide a large More ... is something else!
_This Small but well thought pleasant to handle
SOUNDS
_The Converters are good, the preamp also all gives a very faithful to the source
_Que's Good record without BZZZ PC! It puts into perspective the absence of 24 bit,…Read more_Petit, Light, we lug around everywhere ...
_Sait Be forgotten
_Enregistrement 16 bit
_Micros Correct internal, usable
_Préamp Good
_Prise Guitar with a nice sound
_no Moving parts, completely silent
_Phantom Power
_Alim Battery (autonomy rather weak) or sector (transformer not included)
UTILIZATION
_manual Very clear in French
_Prise Easily in hand
_Use Intuitive
_The Portability, the nomad side provide a large More ... is something else!
_This Small but well thought pleasant to handle
SOUNDS
_The Converters are good, the preamp also all gives a very faithful to the source
_Que's Good record without BZZZ PC! It puts into perspective the absence of 24 bit, the signal to noise ratio remains excellent!
_The Reverbs are good
_The EQ seem OK too, although it would have dreamed of real parametric ...
OVERALL OPINION
_I Have since 1 month
_J'en'm Crazy! For the songwriter is a fantastic tool, both notebook and to achieve true multi-scale models accomplished.
Certainly it is less than a full PC config (ideal), but so much more ergonomic and intuitive!
A killer! "The thing" in my case!See less30 - G. Hagen
Highly recommended!
Published on 05/06/10 at 11:32 (This content has been automatically translated from French)FEATURES
8 tracks, both recorded simultaneously, two microphone inputs TRX or two entries in jack, 6 reverb, 8 faders for direct access level, 8 reverb, 8 pan. Possibility of mastering the beast. Two bands EQ for each track: Access via the small screen and scroll wheel. Ability to record two tracks simultaneously. Ability to control the start and stop recording via a footswitch. SDHC card up to 32 GO!
UTILIZATION
USE
Most functions are governed by the menus that appear on the screen and is controlled via a handy dial to handle. Consulting the manual becomes necessary once you get into the specialized functions such as "bounce" but it is very clear (though it lacks an index that…Read moreFEATURES
8 tracks, both recorded simultaneously, two microphone inputs TRX or two entries in jack, 6 reverb, 8 faders for direct access level, 8 reverb, 8 pan. Possibility of mastering the beast. Two bands EQ for each track: Access via the small screen and scroll wheel. Ability to record two tracks simultaneously. Ability to control the start and stop recording via a footswitch. SDHC card up to 32 GO!
UTILIZATION
USE
Most functions are governed by the menus that appear on the screen and is controlled via a handy dial to handle. Consulting the manual becomes necessary once you get into the specialized functions such as "bounce" but it is very clear (though it lacks an index that would allow a significant time saving). But for basic operation, the unit is intuitive.
Communication with an external computer is required to recover the master. Personally, I prefer to make the master via Audacity Beta Unicode. This avoids a manipulation 'more. Formatting SD cards involves an incredible waste of space because one party is necessarily dedicated to the preservation and communication with the computer. Fortunately, the unit accepts the 32 GB.
Currently, I have not found a way to make Ping-Pong on that unit (which would theoretically fourteen tracks). Perhaps is it not possible?
SOUNDS
TONE
The result is stunning: it sounds CD quality. No latency problem.
OVERALL OPINION
OPINION GLOBAL
I use it for a month and I am satisfied:
__ Because it relieves me of the latency of what is done by computer;
__ Because it allows real-time adjustments such as pan and volume, which is neither possible nor Audiomixer on Audacity.
__ Because it provides an effect unit for reverb;
__ Because unlike the Boss Fostex IBD and microphone 600, is a true eight-track;
__ Because it allows me to put on each track 8 different effects for each program from my Korg M50 that does not sound sequencer;
__ Because it is smaller and lighter than a laptop, and also more efficient;
__ Because its autonomy from the batteries and excellent stereo microphone can call anywhere and on any instrument: guitar, acoustic piano, vocals, synth, drum machine, sampler.
I hesitated with the Boss BR 600 but there were no longer at that time. I also hesitated with the Boss Micro BR, smaller, cheaper, four tracks, but with many effects reserved for guitarists and singers. The inability to control panning and volume in real time discouraged me to purchase it. And then eight tracks, it's more comfortable!
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