use for 1 month we each with 2 subs 850 brand and after you try and buy the nexus ps15 apg DS12STMS4 they are very powerful and mostly pleasant without acute ie not distort or are screaming this is the PR17 to audax ; they can be used without subs but it takes very powerful amps and I use for my share of Powersoft K3 arapport quality excellent price in value in relation to the nexus ps15 but less is 75 kgs each speaker
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