Charleys Avdis bought in 1981, has 27 years cheeks.
The are is fine, clear and powerful prcis, Diameter 14 ". I'd like to sometimes have a more dirty. They are sturdy, reliable, great cymbal. I also have the same Tosco but such a step below. Before (73 81) I had Paiste Sound Edge, as his finest, it eventually split in two (the rock was not laughing). The price of 89 euros which is given on this site is super cheap.
I take the same without hsitation + a pair in its dirtiest.