All user reviews for the Creamware Luna II

It runs on an Athlon 3000+ 512MB, no problem.

USE

Installation is a bit heavy, go all the codes, it's a little c ..... at least ten.
and if we forget we start a instal ..
The creamware system is not affordable to the surface, especially in the older versions with 4 heuresement the direct sound on, before cabler was all about the app.

IMPLEMENTATION

Drivers very stable, still in beta at creamware kind ?? but hey it says it works well, it works in Nuendo 2, no problem. 12 ms ok.

NOTICE GLOBAL

I bought this card there are now 5 years old, then I hesitated between a adda2000 and creamware, a sound technician had me rather enlightened on this card that had just come out, and I do not regret my purchase today ..

1 stereo in 6.35
1 stereo out 6.35
1 midi in, midi out 1
3 Sharc DSP

UTILIZATION

Following an old technology as hardware, or we adapt to quality equipment turn or you move on. Always compatible pci port for cheap is fine.

GETTING STARTED

Even then it was not easy, for this price you do not expect to have to be handy to use their software, today it's different it gets the opportunity to have quality converters.

OVERALL OPINION

In another age, associated with a PC then you can enjoy a good resource of synths, effects and good quality converters. What a deal!

I wanted something compatible. With a good sampling.
I have a dual core 3ghz. 4GB ram, not fully usable in windows xp 32 ... logic audio platinum 5.

UTILIZATION

Latency depends on the recording frequency. The higher the frequency, the higher the latency, the lower this requires CPU resources.
I do not worry at this level.
The updates are paying, finally, version 4 (xp) to version 5 (for seven).
I thought dsp offer more, but ultimately I do not use them.
In addition, the digital format is stereo mini jack is any nawak.

GETTING STARTED

steinberg problem with the products, it crashes.
The update to the new driver costs more than € 200 I think.
This is why I still use xp.
And for this reason I would not buy this brand more.

OVERALL OPINION

I've had about 6 years.
I like the wiring via the software. Configuration quickly changed.
With experience, no, I would choose something else. I was advised by a seller.

The CHARACTERISTICS are above what I need (in fact I powersampler, a luna comes with a virtual sampler) the sound quality of the converters is perfect, even in 16bits/44, 1khz. it has a stro between two sometimes I use Mono because of free plug-in effects and trs are INTERESTED in Stereo recordings .
my config is athlon 1.2 ghz / k7t266pro set (via chipset, even not bad!) / 384MB DDR/win98SE
I use a mixer Berhinger (table when you only need one input and one output Stereo) I record my voice, my guitar (with a microphone AT4033) my bass (with a DI boxSCV DI2MKII) the sound is great and there with the card a lot of virtual instruments findable on the net, blackjack, many of which are INTERESTED.

UTILIZATION

Installation without problem under win98 with soft SFP and its driver, everything works.
lots of problem in win2000pro, which should be rsolus ending for you but be careful in what your Systm or under win xp (see forum www.maomusique.com)

no incompatibility with my config, the config types are available on the site cit prcdemment, configuration is very simple

GETTING STARTED

Drivers perfectly stable under win98 only, currently 2000/XP several pbs rsolus that should not be the end of 2002 t, inquire.
rcents 2000/XP drivers take some time be corrected.
software that I use are quartz and fruity loops pro audio, they work perfectly with the card. ASIO drivers of the card are good trs, I think, even under win 2000/XP, the problem is that drivers wdm Grente the wave.
latency? I know ... for me it is ngligeable.
I get to read 6 tracks stro simultanment with effects, probablment much but I have not had a chance to try. I have not tried to record more than 2 tracks at the moment.

OVERALL OPINION

I use it for around 4 months, it's my Premire real map, I had an isis I got drawback immediately cause incompatibility.
its two largest quality tie for me is the wealth of plug-in for free on the net for the card and the quality of the converters.
the default is the main problem of drivers under Windows 2000 that force me to remain under 98, which will j'espre rgl this t. ..
the report is qualitprix trs correct if one considers the fact that the card has a DSP, which allows him to play a synth to add effects to the inputs of the map or on a file her without any processor does not support ECTT charge.
with exprience, I no hsiter Rasht, plenty of plug-in and forum ddi creamware cards Whereas aid Seeing me begin, I d computer music goal in 6 months ago and this card is perfect for home studio and can "add" some pulsars, making it a MODEL "volute"

I made the choice for all of luna relatively toff as possible, e / s year, midi interface, principle
volute, prsence of dsp (incredibly relieving the mac), quality and quantity effects, technology trs
contemporary asio 1 and 2 routing required. I use a G4-400, 7200-ATA hard drive, 576 ram,
Second hard drive (40 GB, storage music files). I have used up the my guitar, singing with a microphone and plug prampli drums and bass. I renregistr containing all the songs + of synths.
typically use home studio.

UTILIZATION

+ Installation - no problem, put a hand updates downloads from the site of the asio drivers.
no incompatibility but comprhension of Systm not empty at all.
I ds pig qque little logic, config. aisment was made, but I confess be away from all the possibilities offered by this card. the manual becomes clear when one understands the logic of Systm at dpart for an amateur not-ing sound, it's worse than hiroglyphes!
INTERESTED creamware that it would be illustrated by concrete examples of the possible connections diffrent
as needed, and examples qques Submitted not "speak" not nophyte, public it
addressed first! remark qques buddies pro, superb and not simple!

GETTING STARTED

Outstanding stability of drivers, relatively slow loading, latency 7 ms. purchased since May, no
days of drivers do not put me t proposes, cons, I Intgr blackjack software that sfp s'avre all
just extra (GUI stability, routing, to the evolution intgration other modules).
prsence ... may be too frquences ® brand., pq nanmoins thanks to Mono or Stereo, easy correction.

OVERALL OPINION

Use daily since August, I learned not shuffled types, namely, if I use luna and not
sfp through, it is impractical to select the software rutiliser dpart otherwise crash or fall
of performance. a song is recorded in sfp sfp with reworks and vice versa.
I work as sales manager and I can not, show me the way that surprised at the quality of the effectiveness of the intelligence of such a product that price, probably aware that there is no match for other super-pro, but After all, better a super-good renault ferrari a Sunday!
I want to take advantage of last-minute takeover bid of my luna against a pulsar, but I have no ide
of as good as the synths, despite qques dmos site.

I used to mix in my 24/96 and qq virtual instruments in the studio, but the power of the DSP does not allow at the same time mixing in 24/96 and run a good synth (poison, Minimax, Vectron) with multiple-voice polyphony ...

I live runs in 44.1 or 48 000 Hz and it becomes far more Grable and it is possible to launch two synths with a number of voice polyphony correct, at the same time as the mix.

Does he have a good idea to put some ram in + DSP even just 8 mo ca'll have considerably dsengorg the PCI, the coup in thoriated can put the cards cascading creamware but already with a pulsar we get a overload of PCI ... as I intend to have another card dsp (PowerCore) I can not predict upgrade, I have yet one of the best CM (TUSL2 ASUS) and my PCI slots are in the 155 mhz overclock ..

UTILIZATION

The installation and my system is intgration ds Droulez no problem, no incompatibility setup is simple enough to not read the manual, just two hours to delve into the scope.

seems impossible to install the card if the PC is ACPI mode.

XTC mode does not work but anyway this mode sucks because you can not run the scope at the same time ..

qualques small bug deci beyond ... nothing major but it's not "pro"

GETTING STARTED

Stability is not a problem, the drivers are very good, but I'm in it seems that ASIO is not the case for the drivers .. tt

Live I use the scope with a BAR and a synth in cubase I have a latency of 9 ms 48khz I do not force the DSP to keep some stability I can get a latency infrieur but I do not see the usefulness ..

I work 12 tracks I make the Rec simultaneous but just the mixdown on a single track .. it slows the system already, but that's normal because I have a DD.

OVERALL OPINION

I had an ISIS and an ew 24/96 TerraTec sound is much better on the creamware as the other two I had.

For 400 Euro have a exellent sound card that is worth.

However, I find trade policy creamware fairly average for the expansion of output have tt is now forced to buy the super luna rack firewire box, I AIM to choose a trivial extension with analog I / O for lowest price for SHIFT they are not free in general after buying a product was 2 / 3 MAJ free and then after finished ..

+ I prfr pay in the map a little more and have at least one + DSP, and a more complete log Ofre (not a single synth ds the basic package and fx are provided rotten, and I did not want to take the pulsar prob PCI cit above)

the day on the pulsar the ram will I probably buy it ..

Magra few dfaults I can not Spar me this card because I taste the scope is really exellent software and has a very good sound

- What technical specifications motivated your choice?
A friend told me this card prt in the IDE that I could redeem him OCCAZ 'if I liked. (It could not be worse than my SB Live Platinum ...). The ide of having ACCS m'intressait of DSP to the extent that he gave me a quantity of ACCS plugs homeowners. However, since I like simple music (all my projects are 12 tracks of 8) and gross dcoffrage (I'm not crazy effects excessive), the ide of the SAVE power machine did not speak more than a.
- For what purpose?
Squence MIDI / Audio Cubase SX but mainly in Reason, Acid and SoundForge.
- What is your config?
So I installed on my Athlon 1500XP/256 MB RAM / motherboard MSIK7T266Pro/HD 20 GB with two partitions. Systm is the Windows XP Pro
- Which instruments or Systmes (console, prampli, DTD ...) you use it and how connections? ...
A small console Behringer UB802.

UTILIZATION

- Installation is no problem it?
Oh no! It also limits a scandal. We must go to 15 numros sries to install the software supplied with the card. What are they afraid to Creamware? What would be the intrt to hack their drivers if you have not the map? In short, it's a crappy business perspective, and has forced me Tlcharger tens of MB on the Net (Fortunately, I have the cable) and wandering Forums to get the thing installed.
- Have you encountered any incompatibilities?
Well yes, XTC mode which allows a priori to use the plugs Creamware as simple VST Cubase is not at all developed. Not only does it crash a lot but when it works, it works only partially: in a bounce, all effects disappear in favor of a white or pink noise (I'm color blind ears). Sure, there's a trick to work around this problem (numriques outputs are pieces of the map as a source for recording), but we do not find in the manual ... And everything has to make a simple Bounce ...
- The configuration gnrale is easy?
Apart from XTC mode, the software supplied with the card (Scope) can not prs cbler virtually any source to any destination. This allows incredible flexibility but it takes you get used to knitting with the cables in order to obtain truly virtual party. In short, it's a highlight of the card but repel fans of plug & play who want to make a simple configuration of their stuff ...
- The manual is clear and sufficient? ...
Given the relative complexity of the thing. Still, I did consult the PDF I rcupre on the website of the publisher.

GETTING STARTED

- The drivers are stable?
Yes, except for the capricious mode XTC
- Are they often put day?
Not had time to will appreciate the thing ...
- What you get lag?
7 ms without taking me on the head rglages. Lespaul on Amplitube guitar: it's all made playable. With the VSTi is nickel. Apprciable when we really knew the lentuer a SoundBlaster.
- Quality converters?
Impecable. Say anything about that.

OVERALL OPINION

La Luna is not without advantages: good converters, DSP, cblage virtual ... However, this is clearly not the card acqurir if, like me, it seeks above all something simple and efficient.
I saw nothing in plug Owner 'justifies the purchase over VST plug-ins and as I do not have large requirements of this ct, the DSP does not m'intressent masses. Further complicating the management Cubase me properly inflated.
The virtual cblage? It assurment an asset because it allows to connect all about anything but this has little intrt for musicians who just want to Save Guitar / bass / drums / singing to their models. And they are many!
Finally, and DCID me more than anything is that working with the Systm Creamware homeowners and plugs, I m'enchanais a system that limiting my possibilities s (not pieces made to work on my PC on my laptop since it does not have the same card and would therefore be unable to rotate the plug homeowners.)

CONCLUSION
La Luna is a good card but it is not without default. I think that you should buy it if we think to take full advantage of its possibilities. When looking just a sound card, which is my case, there are cheaper and much more simple.
Mention particulire Creamware: your system protection software MRIT a nice 0 points. I know that aid me in DCID dfaveur of your product. It's a shame, right?

Sound card with best of the best converters; the same regardless of the MODEL!!

UTILIZATION

Manual summary is true but there are forums and prvus spcialiss creamware in France and the United States with basic advice is the gteau ....

GETTING STARTED

Perfect stability at home and I'm my 3rd creamware card! Although sr, when added together (and it is even possible to prvu evolve slowly and following the budget and ambitions), ask the opinion among the 30 000 to creamwariens whether ue motherboard knows grate a PCI with a big traffic (dsp means give many of PCI). On this point, Intel is on top .... it works with 3 maps and 30-prs dsp!!

OVERALL OPINION

I shoot with creamware 3 years .... I love it! No card offers the flexibility of this card and its software that allows Scope Fusion cbler as we want to enter and leave with your squence, dealing with effects or synths or samplers put creamware .. .. in short, I have not found better quality sound and ct .... my friends hallucinate when they cost a purity converters. Although it is a sr PRO card and not semi pro, so this is for those who work venlent srieusement crr and wants their studio or home studio ...

Having started the afternoon with an Atari ST and the sequencer 24 Pro & After isis and 40 seconds of latency in cakewalk9, I started looking for a digital audio card allows me to use anything other than noon to finalize my models. Mostly sounds more "pro" (those plug-in) than my sound card and my old expanders (Korg & Yamaha, Korg Z1 Keyboard). So I was looking for the right compromise between noon and audio with maximum compatibility and stability for my config as I use for internet, office and ... some network games défoulatoires between failures of 2 record scratching.

I first started with a re-config around an AMD XP 2000 +, MSI K7N2 motherboard and nvidia chipset (without compatibility bp), with 1 GB of RAM for loading large samples. all with either a la luna evolution € 900 (I had a 19 inch and a nvidia video card).

The choice of the luna is imposed by the price (of OCCAZ € 300), critics of the forums (I hesitated with Hoontech but some users seem to have the hassle of compatibility).

UTILIZATION

Installation no problem: you have to say that my config is rather loaded: ADSL Modem Internal, SCSI card for the scanner and zip drive 250, the PCI IDE cables for my six additional hard drives (15 GB to 40 GB for a total 180-go), DVD player and recorder. With more tools embedded on the motherboard (NIC port USB2, Firewire, 5.1 sound card ...), a pretty short bazard, which forced me to re-installed XP 3 times and install each item one by 1. But no problems directly related to the card.

Particluièrement I was surprised by the quality and professionalism of the installation of softwares de la luna (the Scope platform). after download the latest versions (60 mo ... thank you for ADSL). I have not encountered incompatibility (I really freaked out yet!) on the other hand settings (the wiring soft & hard) are a bit complicated and I spent three days on the forum Audiofanzine (where j I bought the card for that matter) and that of MaoMusique.com.

Manual: what manual? (Yes, there is one but I find the manuals too alive ... long live the forums).

GETTING STARTED

The drivers know to be forgotten and that's the main thing. Basically it runs well on most applications that I made (even the games and videoconferencing). The interface software is one of the best that I have to see even if it beating down a lot of resources when loaded, it is better to have the ram in rab.

For updates: not too much interest, as it turns super Xp point bar and delivered versions are stable and well finished.

I went in the meantime in order to use Cubase VST plug-in and there's the shock:

My config + la luna and Dsp and I can not find my hardware limitations compos: sometimes I have 10 more running VST instruments, a sampler and a dozen sounds (some as the pianos are over 150 MB), the reverb, compressor, flanger, equalizer vst on the slopes or directly on the master with a 6ms latency and some audio recording and playback ... in short I do almost no limit except .... 24/96 in which the cracks begin to appear. I use very little once the DSP card since I have at the moment who does not need to reduce the processor.

OVERALL OPINION

I use it for over 6 months now and I still find opportunities in this set (+ map + dsp platform Scope). without being limited to the level of creativity.

These points are: The quality of the converters, the build quality, sound, absence of latency, compatibility, its software, stability and price.

Weak points are: it must be said, the system of virtual wiring is flexible and powerful but a bit complicated at the beginning (long live the forums). the app is perfect, but the interface is a bit too heavy and eat a lot of resources for very little. plug-ins come with are not necessarily more convincing (notably the reverb).

In short the price / quality ratio is excellent and I see happen peacefully the next 3 years without major changes to my hardware config. I certainly will stay in CREAMWARE thereafter to the overall quality of service (serious offers, no gadget, soft drinks come with little accomplished and more bugs ...), family CREAMWARE users is very broad and rather nice ( forcing me into account . There is to me that the RME products that could possibly make me change my mind ... in 3 years we'll see ...

The strength that made me choose this card is a modular software environment compltement DSP and its well in the end, very little that interests me are developed for ....

Also, the quality of the converter, while passing by an Apogee Rosetta now, there is a diffrence but not standard ...

My config Win XP Pro ASUS P4P800 P4 3.3 GHz 1 GB DDR400 MAXTOR Dique drive etc ...

UTILIZATION

Installation without any problem, the system is super stable, no incompatibility with Logic audio, ultra-low latency (6 ms)

The configuration is a little work on his head, but the module system of the virtual environment (wiring, IN / OUT etc ...) is so well thought that when you know where you go, and that 'on the ide prcise well on our needs and their solutions, there is no problem its rolls.

A guy lost to the routing of its Luna 2 a one man lost in the wiring of the Studio ....

Not need the manual ....

GETTING STARTED

Using TOP! trs low latency, Creamware site is in English but damn ...
LOGIC AUDIO ASIO at the same time as WAVELAB wave driver with a driver and SOUND FORGE with wave 2 and all started simultaneously!
It is a true multi card customers ...

2 track recording and 60 read simultaneously without prob ...

OVERALL OPINION

Its been 3 years since I have and I love it, the report price is top quality, it would be a remake, I see even a pulsar r'acheterais 2!

I wanted a simple and powerful card
Between Stereo / Stereo output (Anloga and digital)
Between Mid Output
Ultra-low latency

Until the 's nickel, I'm running Cubase, Reason, Acid and even Gigastudio 3!
I have changed 3 times in conf PII, PIII and PIV surprise ... (thank you mr Intel)
In the long run I think Creamw @ re abuse by delivering a few drivers "BETA" for WinXP.
For non-computer it mean "it works to your own risk" and if you push more legislation as it means in the clear "we are not responsbla bugs" ... that is medium like atmosphere.

J 'uses only VST plug-ins so the DSP does not serve me absolutely nothing. It is only when marketing and platform to their scope (for a fee, eh?), Who wants to reinvent the synthesizer today?

That said, it works well, it Bugge not! 12/20 then that is good enough por price and reliability.

UTILIZATION

The installation goes well, I did it three times, the connection is limited, however:

6.35 Stereo Jack blah blah!
S-VHS for MIDI s'arache ca trp a little easier
taking SPDif is buggy, you have to patch it and then this card that makes the 96kHz to 48kHz with SPDIF Why this?
The manual on CDROM, that is Deguelle, I like it, I have all imprimbr /> The patch is incompreenssible routing to beginners, but when we practice the card for 5 years it makes sense (sic !)

GETTING STARTED

The card is stable but the drivers are rarely updated.
creamw@re.de site is silent as the grave.
The mixer is a bit c ** ille break, not very accurate in volume and panning in trp
Plugins' compress and EQ "are provided gratos nazes, so why sell DSP if not provided with the plugins that von .... elementary, my dear you have to buy!
A 400 card we will buy a 150 plugins?? Nor is it going!
Latency is fine but when you load the mule with cubase, it quickly becomes the mess!
I'm just the stereo with this card!

OVERALL OPINION

I am the User for 5 years my faith, it is like an old couple, a little bitter but I now pass the good times go I don 't want to.
The thing that fills me that is that he is opening the platform before opening Cubase or Reason, it takes a chaque3 was 4 minutes, a long ca pette the c ** illes
Before I had an ISIS ... 's on it' was better ... now I'm eyeing on the MOTU MKII or an ECHO or a RME ...

No I 'not redeem a second ca is a good OCCAZ to 150
I am here to tell you I 'm going

At the time of my purchase the DSP were more with less powerful PC.
3 DSP la luna can be used with several bus I / O without pb but little effect and / or synths.
[coupled with Pulsar II for example we go to 9 DSP at all and it's comfortable enough]
It must be a PCI (not PCIe standard) for luna.

UTILIZATION

The converters are very good (comparable to RME according to some forums)
Up to version v4.5 of the software / drivers (the sfp scope) you can use it on XP, since v5.1 (full version if you have an older version) it can be used on Windows 7 (32 and 64).
The use is difficult because one must take the time to understand the use so the possibilities are flexible. It can route inputs and outputs as you want and place effects, mixer and synths. 4ms latency is possible on my PC (version 5.1 - Core i7 ASUS P6T Deluxe - 6 GB Ram - Cubase 5.5.3). Core Sonic generation has left a card XITE XITE 1D and much more powerful and PCIe (so very 'up-to-date'!) against the price by not really the same course!
When it was immersed in the sonic core card system can rarely move on so it's cool but it takes an investment of time and understanding to begin with.

GETTING STARTED

There are currently easier to use, USB2 interfaces are legion. on the other hand no equivalent to the software de la luna in terms of routing options it's still huge by just against the limitation 3DSP quickly felt. We can associate three cards creamware (now sonic core) to increase the power but we DSP motherboard has the correct number of PCI slots.
Note XTC mode allows the use of plug-ins cremaware / sonic core in cubase but this mode does not work on a PC in 64-bit system unfortunately. I personally do not use the XTC mode.
I would say that this is not a map for beginners. Someone who knows well the audio will love but be careful anyway to install and the PC to be optimum.

OVERALL OPINION

This card is good and converters are not pale even today, against its use is difficult (and the install) and PCI are likely to disappear from the next generation of PC. So consider all this.

I had a map that would triple dat owner with this software since 1996.
When I could no longer use this card because it uses a port (ISA obsolete. ..) I bought the luna of the same brand in the hope it can continue to use my software with which I had done everything for almost 10 years.

It always runs on a Pentium 4, with live sound forge cubase etc..
But it is a PCI card, not PCI Express, it has no future ...

UTILIZATION

Drivers stable when we managed to install it.
No update for a long time.
It only runs on XP.
No latency, it works.

GETTING STARTED

Installation super long and painful.
Config General laborious.
It's long to capture the philosophy Creamware.
I have never been able to use the plugs and XTC
I bec a lot of people bought this card for that
(Not me).
These plugs have never worked with my Sony Steinberg and softs.
Never figured out how to do despite intensive research over several years.
Forget the manual.
There's only forums you can pick this stuff abstruse.

OVERALL OPINION

7.
ESI PRSESONUS, RME.
The Creamware has a good sound very hot and almost tending towards the lamp.
But it too crashed, I took too long to be able to do even a record two tracks with their incredibly twisted patch ...
Value for money, that time and now it could go for 80 euros, can be worth the shot
if we are not afraid of galleys and we do not think to change your PC (PCI slot because often only one or y'en not today)

-What characteristics have motivated your choice?
The possibility of DSP and routing
- For what purpose?
Home studio
-What is your config (Motherboard / CPU / Ram / Hard ,...)?
Amd athlon 64 3400 1024 dd ram sata all under Win XP Pro

UTILIZATION

The installation is done without problem under 3.1 as under the scope 4. not yet tested the 4.5 ... Not need the manual to tell the truth!

GETTING STARTED

No crash for drivers to date with just over two years of service. just a pity that so far no drivers for xp 64 ki permit full use of the process. Very good latency mm large project audio tracks as virtual instruments.

OVERALL OPINION

I spend a little over 1 year xtc mode only with cubase ki allows me to not have two mixers to be able to manage and Integrative plug directly into Cubase. Easy to manage its inputs as outputs of externality with cubase and luna box (8 inputs 8 outputs). In short sound quality not crash. So far no problem on the other hand delighted to have made that choice just what k'il dsp is sufficient given the opportunity of being pc g abandoned the pulsar.

- At PCI
- 2 analog inputs
- 2 analog outputs
- 1i / o SPDIF
- 1 z-link connection (I have never used)

UTILIZATION

This card is easy to install.
no incopmatibilité rceonnue
for the grip you need to configure different virtual connections if the sound does not come out.

GETTING STARTED

I work under win 98se (I read that it is ultimately the best OS for audio applications) amd athlon 1gig, 258 meg of ram.
About the features (mixer, sampler, synth), I acquired a taste for ease of use of soundfonts and other virtual synth I have never used.
Latency 25ms (10ms for APS)
Otherwise conversion quality OK, It is a scalable, modular card.
I'm petu not be the best position to appreciate it, as I do not use all its features. But I can assure you that this is a very good card.

OVERALL OPINION

Used for 6 months now
I do live with my main sound card, an EMU APS. It works very well.