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Published on 04/15/10 at 01:10
all characteristics that are expected to total a machine in terms of technical capabilities (features) and nothing in terms of ergonomics ..
(For details, see the previous posts to understand what I mean .. see more))
UTILIZATION
voila groovebox Miss plastoc designed by robocop!
the interface is completely rotten ... a 2000 miles from what we want to groovebox ...
This machine is cool in concept as the north pole ...
Roland we sell tons of products with real-time access .... the 505 and 909 (which I've had and adored before purchasing a 808) were thinking machines for fun and ... musicians with access time Réél ..
Think that you can not even have access to any parameters in terms of real time synthesis except through the computer is shocking ..
When was his motorized faders ... it s in motion ....( go left right me a knob for my pan for example.) C is just a smokescreen to make marketing history gnagnagna positive on the bike.
Ps: if the manual, ca va!
SOUNDS
nothing negative to say about the sounds given what is expected of this type machine ..
There are things to do .. and it can sound very good!
OVERALL OPINION
lovers and users of roland groovebox for ages (505 and 909), I had bought the 808, thinking back the spirit that I adored groovebox ..
Nay!
This machine provides no pleasure roland s. .. use has destroyed the concept car with this machine ..
This machine has the ass between two chairs (computer, not computer?) And anything that was that little thing we kiffa the 505 (better?) For example.
I've sold after 3 weeks ... disappointed and surprised to have n no desire to make music with.
(And tell yourself that this is not a control problem .. I make music on a large multimedia station pro and I have mastered and worked and often possessed with all the main synthesizers of the past 20 years ... so I'm not supposed to be a ball either ..)
This is definitely the machine hardware that I have found the worst in its concept for a long time .. roland c is fucking the mouth of all fans groovebox with this Bécanne ..
Money:
Today I work with Ableton Live 8 and the APC akai 40 (with any such arturia synths that sound so much better at the limit, and an apple macbook for exemplary reliability, the best in the world ?)... and groovebox although of course ableton live has 10000 miles is in terms of power of the 808 ... and that would force the hardware (the usability) of the akai is still 10 times better that a dedicated machine as the 808 (the sprinkler watered) with a feeling on the knobs plastoc much less and more productive!
And in my opinion is better GPA for the sampling, or Electribe EMX, or a Machinedrum (boxes of pace at least take advantage of real-time hardware design ... s. 808 opposite the bastard!)
My conclusion?
I am surprised to see so many positive opinions on this machine finally to be honest .. but actually I think that c is also because all those who think like me were a little less stupid than me: they did not have bought ... so at least they have not lost no time has put a negative review ..
(Yes ok, my opinion is a bit of a rant but if you search the forums internationals you'll see that I am far from being the only one thinking that eh ...)
(For details, see the previous posts to understand what I mean .. see more))
UTILIZATION
voila groovebox Miss plastoc designed by robocop!
the interface is completely rotten ... a 2000 miles from what we want to groovebox ...
This machine is cool in concept as the north pole ...
Roland we sell tons of products with real-time access .... the 505 and 909 (which I've had and adored before purchasing a 808) were thinking machines for fun and ... musicians with access time Réél ..
Think that you can not even have access to any parameters in terms of real time synthesis except through the computer is shocking ..
When was his motorized faders ... it s in motion ....( go left right me a knob for my pan for example.) C is just a smokescreen to make marketing history gnagnagna positive on the bike.
Ps: if the manual, ca va!
SOUNDS
nothing negative to say about the sounds given what is expected of this type machine ..
There are things to do .. and it can sound very good!
OVERALL OPINION
lovers and users of roland groovebox for ages (505 and 909), I had bought the 808, thinking back the spirit that I adored groovebox ..
Nay!
This machine provides no pleasure roland s. .. use has destroyed the concept car with this machine ..
This machine has the ass between two chairs (computer, not computer?) And anything that was that little thing we kiffa the 505 (better?) For example.
I've sold after 3 weeks ... disappointed and surprised to have n no desire to make music with.
(And tell yourself that this is not a control problem .. I make music on a large multimedia station pro and I have mastered and worked and often possessed with all the main synthesizers of the past 20 years ... so I'm not supposed to be a ball either ..)
This is definitely the machine hardware that I have found the worst in its concept for a long time .. roland c is fucking the mouth of all fans groovebox with this Bécanne ..
Money:
Today I work with Ableton Live 8 and the APC akai 40 (with any such arturia synths that sound so much better at the limit, and an apple macbook for exemplary reliability, the best in the world ?)... and groovebox although of course ableton live has 10000 miles is in terms of power of the 808 ... and that would force the hardware (the usability) of the akai is still 10 times better that a dedicated machine as the 808 (the sprinkler watered) with a feeling on the knobs plastoc much less and more productive!
And in my opinion is better GPA for the sampling, or Electribe EMX, or a Machinedrum (boxes of pace at least take advantage of real-time hardware design ... s. 808 opposite the bastard!)
My conclusion?
I am surprised to see so many positive opinions on this machine finally to be honest .. but actually I think that c is also because all those who think like me were a little less stupid than me: they did not have bought ... so at least they have not lost no time has put a negative review ..
(Yes ok, my opinion is a bit of a rant but if you search the forums internationals you'll see that I am far from being the only one thinking that eh ...)