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  • balaambalaam

    Perfect for the living room or studio

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 09/24/13 at 01:44
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    My choice was motivated by the tapes, I use my "prodipe" for the living room and studio

    SOUNDS

    ola ... the sound is good and well restored (Live)

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use them for a little over a year, small flat on the LED in frontage sometimes gene ... Report level / quality / price, I would say it is good ... I say approx because purchased in the DOM, so full of additional taxes that drive up the purchase price.
  • ljoyeljoye

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 07/24/13 at 04:02
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    The price / quality ratio
    To connect my traktor s4 and the computer.

    SOUNDS

    The sound is clear and precise with good audio cables.
    The stereo image is excellent.

    OVERALL OPINION

    1 year
    I tried models with friends and the sound is really excellent on prodipes
    What I like about these speakers is excellent quality at treble and bass level.
    I do not regret that choice in any case, I am satisfied. I recommend this model for an excellent price / quality ratio.
  • tamfranc1tamfranc1

    excellent value for money

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 11/25/12 at 06:29
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    power, but mostly ribbon tweeter.
    use in home studio

    SOUNDS

    neutral curve a very clear and precise. good stereo image even though in my opinion this is the weakest point but perhaps this is part of the

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use them for 5 months to mix my songs but also for listening to music (we rediscover with any such enclosures)
    excellent value for money. suitable for rock and jazz by their precision and clarity.
    the +
    vents in the front handy in home studio
    sound very accurate (in the treble but the bass)
    the more than enough power
    the -
    Perhaps the stereo but I can not be definitive over there too many parameters and especially my relative ignorance .…
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    power, but mostly ribbon tweeter.
    use in home studio

    SOUNDS

    neutral curve a very clear and precise. good stereo image even though in my opinion this is the weakest point but perhaps this is part of the

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use them for 5 months to mix my songs but also for listening to music (we rediscover with any such enclosures)
    excellent value for money. suitable for rock and jazz by their precision and clarity.
    the +
    vents in the front handy in home studio
    sound very accurate (in the treble but the bass)
    the more than enough power
    the -
    Perhaps the stereo but I can not be definitive over there too many parameters and especially my relative ignorance ...
    I would do without this choice problem
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  • spwilspwil

    Well

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 10/17/12 at 10:47
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    Technique to the ribbon is very interresting and very precise

    SOUNDS

    The soundstage is very well transcribed. if it is a purchase that you considered, please take the Pro 10S extra for a sound image more sublimated thanks to the wide range provided for bass sounds.

    OVERALL OPINION

    For nearly eight months
    Price / quality ratio interresting
  • gargamel35gargamel35

    Really not bad ...

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 10/06/12 at 12:55
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    j I bought this pair of monitoring after al purchase a kit Monitoring Prodipe Prodipe Pro 6 and Pro Sub S, from a board that we had given m.
    happened to my studio, I had the pleasant surprise to discover that monitors was excuse me but the expression "crap" I have not been able to listen in store unfortunately brief ...
    I have therefore exchange with the supplier by Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8

    I will use them for listening, mixing and mastering

    SOUNDS

    The frequency curve is sufficiently neutral?
    Yes, it is neutral,,,

    The dynamics are respected?
    Yes, a pair of very dynamic monitoring

    The stereo image is good?
    Yes correct stereo image

    The sound is clear and precise a…
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    j I bought this pair of monitoring after al purchase a kit Monitoring Prodipe Prodipe Pro 6 and Pro Sub S, from a board that we had given m.
    happened to my studio, I had the pleasant surprise to discover that monitors was excuse me but the expression "crap" I have not been able to listen in store unfortunately brief ...
    I have therefore exchange with the supplier by Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8

    I will use them for listening, mixing and mastering

    SOUNDS

    The frequency curve is sufficiently neutral?
    Yes, it is neutral,,,

    The dynamics are respected?
    Yes, a pair of very dynamic monitoring

    The stereo image is good?
    Yes correct stereo image

    The sound is clear and precise across the spectrum?
    yes the sound is clear enough in the whole spectrum, high frequency are not garish, low frequencies are a little flattering, but it does nothing to bother preferable to view certain style of music, mid sprectre sounds rather nice too

    OVERALL OPINION

    How long have you been using?
    for two hours

    Did you try many other models before buying it?
    yes a lot of models,,, low end to high end and unlike the one I'd bought two days before (pro prodipe 6), c is really night and day

    What is so special that you like most and least?
    ... for the moment I do not pronounce

    How do you rate the quality / price?
    rather not bad, for tape, c is not too expensive

    With experience, you do again this choice?
    YES!!!!!
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  • JaamtrakJaamtrak

    Excellent.

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 10/05/12 at 08:29
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice? For what purpose? What amp / What configuration? ...

    The tape of course, at this price ...
    Usage: mixing and pre-mastering (Home studiste I specify)
    Recording vocals and guitars
    MultiStyle mix (reggae, hiphop, electronic music).

    SOUNDS

    The frequency curve is sufficiently neutral?

    Very neutral, theoretically, they go down to 45Hz, and they really go down there! Lack of bass compared to other models below (pro 5 etc. ..)

    Curve very neutral with a slight bump to 750Hz, but I have no problem, mixing a song and listening to a variety of media (it does not mislead me)
    http://www.prodipe.com/fr/produits/enceintes-monitori…
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice? For what purpose? What amp / What configuration? ...

    The tape of course, at this price ...
    Usage: mixing and pre-mastering (Home studiste I specify)
    Recording vocals and guitars
    MultiStyle mix (reggae, hiphop, electronic music).

    SOUNDS

    The frequency curve is sufficiently neutral?

    Very neutral, theoretically, they go down to 45Hz, and they really go down there! Lack of bass compared to other models below (pro 5 etc. ..)

    Curve very neutral with a slight bump to 750Hz, but I have no problem, mixing a song and listening to a variety of media (it does not mislead me)
    http://www.prodipe.com/fr/produits/enceintes-monitoring/item/58-pro-ribbon-8


    The stereo image is good? The sound is clear and precise across the spectrum?

    Stereo very good, really clear and accurate throughout its spectrum, below 45Hz, a sub can be useful for bass frequencies truly possible for a work or sub rumble specific example (kick modulated or otherwise), but even electro, these speakers are sufficient in themselves.

    The dynamics are respected? ...

    Also very good dynamic, the most electro tracks, there is a very low dynamic range due to the famous Loudness War, but on listening songs (I love to make Lord of the Rings Soundtrack for example, Lossless Collection minimum), good dynamic, I feel totally away. Moreover, even on the orchestral, they do not have much to envy to the largest. (I could compare not only with Krk, but also with Genelec ... I would compare with speakers tape from Adam, but not the budget ...)

    OVERALL OPINION

    How long have you been using?

    For a little over a year, in the long run, no significant design flaw, very little noise and no vibration parasite after a year of intensive use)

    What is so special that you like most and least?

    Did you try many other models before buying it?

    Several models of Krk in my soundshop and a Genelec model also (I was seduced by genelec, but the price level are Unbeatable Prodipe)

    How do you rate the quality / price? With experience, you do again this choice? ...

    I would do this choice 1000fois, this brand is criticized I know the fact of the price but also the choice of venue design / suppliers, but hey everyone knows what globalization at the expense of the environment and logic, but it is the policy choices that are beyond us, us mere artists, and more brands do not hesitate to practice a similar policy while maintaining price "pros" (cheap understanders)

    Prodipe has demonstrated to me that the price does not justify the quality.
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  • Mister Robin HoodMister Robin Hood

    Quality / Price ratio unbeatable

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 10/01/12 at 01:02
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    I was looking at the start of Adam (the A7x) or HS80 and enjoying ribbon tweeters, I looked at the Pro Ribbon 8.

    I use it in my home studio for mixing albums I recorded in the studio (if they are not mixed there and my personal composition.

    SOUNDS

    On the frequency curve and unlike HS80 which had interested me initially, I would say they are more neutral. The bass is accurate and round without being invasive and haut-mediums/aigus (strengths of these speakers in my opinion) are very loyal and, above all, enjoyable listening. It was also a test of my choice, I had several monitor speakers who quickly became tiresome to listen to their coldness and treble. With these I can mix no…
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    I was looking at the start of Adam (the A7x) or HS80 and enjoying ribbon tweeters, I looked at the Pro Ribbon 8.

    I use it in my home studio for mixing albums I recorded in the studio (if they are not mixed there and my personal composition.

    SOUNDS

    On the frequency curve and unlike HS80 which had interested me initially, I would say they are more neutral. The bass is accurate and round without being invasive and haut-mediums/aigus (strengths of these speakers in my opinion) are very loyal and, above all, enjoyable listening. It was also a test of my choice, I had several monitor speakers who quickly became tiresome to listen to their coldness and treble. With these I can mix normal volume without feeling fatigue tuned itself.

    I love the look of brass and acoustic instruments on these speakers.

    The stereo is excellent (once again many others that I could hear), stage of pan when mixing is facilitated.

    I have a few more doubts about the bass produced by these speakers: I particularly like about them but I think the response curve has a slight bump in this area it. My mixes heard on other forums I have quickly noticed but once one knows its pregnant it learns to anticipate.

    However, the event is located on the front (hence the bump?) On this side no problem for reflections from the wall behind.

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use them for almost a year and I quickly got used to these speakers.
    I listened to a lot of speakers in this price range and a bit higher (HS80, Adam A7x, KRK, Genelec ...) and I opted for the Prodipe (400 euros the pair purchased new) rather than Adam take time and I was not disappointed.

    Strengths: precision, high fidelity midrange and treble, stereo and depth.

    Weaknesses: The slight bump in the bass for mixing but rather quite nice when listening to music.
    This is a detail but the two blue LEDs on the front are really powerful, I quickly hid for use in the dark.
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  • wallymanwallyman

    Good value for money

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 07/10/12 at 20:16
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    The characteristics that motivated me, are the vent on the front and upper ribbon.

    She serves in a home studio back Dj.

    SOUNDS

    To me that is not an expert ear, that frequency curve satisfies me amply, and I find it rather bland for my taste.

    The sound is clear and precise nothing wrong on this, I do not especially voulai is having criares treble, or of the choi speakers with ribbons, and the highs are frankly plutots enjoyable, not exhausting the all.

    OVERALL OPINION

    I used since 7 months.

    These are my first monitor, I just mixed on Alesis entry level, which was too low and slobbery flateuse compared to them.

    What I like best price, qualitée Audible for thi…
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    The characteristics that motivated me, are the vent on the front and upper ribbon.

    She serves in a home studio back Dj.

    SOUNDS

    To me that is not an expert ear, that frequency curve satisfies me amply, and I find it rather bland for my taste.

    The sound is clear and precise nothing wrong on this, I do not especially voulai is having criares treble, or of the choi speakers with ribbons, and the highs are frankly plutots enjoyable, not exhausting the all.

    OVERALL OPINION

    I used since 7 months.

    These are my first monitor, I just mixed on Alesis entry level, which was too low and slobbery flateuse compared to them.

    What I like best price, qualitée Audible for this price, the vents on the front.
    What I like is the inter moin / off the back, and finishing a bit light for my taste, but normal considering the price.

    The price / quality ratio is carément excellent, I regret my choi.
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  • Menestrel de malheurMenestrel de malheur

    Nickel

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 05/12/12 at 13:47
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    see below

    SOUNDS

    Bluffing.

    OVERALL OPINION

    I had Behringer and Fostex before. I was not hot to buy prodipe for monitoring these forums but I was amazed.
    I have for some time now and I am very satisfied, provide a good space between the wall and behind the speakers, as well as some distance between you and the speakers is that they send in the heavy ganache and grannies.
    It is neutral, precise and clear, all that I sought.
    I use them only for the monitoring, lapped in death metal and has an edirol fa66 dubstep.Branchées.
    Micro-flat, LED power on the facade of one of the speakers does not work anymore, now j tries to turn the other because it's blinding.
    Switch…
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    see below

    SOUNDS

    Bluffing.

    OVERALL OPINION

    I had Behringer and Fostex before. I was not hot to buy prodipe for monitoring these forums but I was amazed.
    I have for some time now and I am very satisfied, provide a good space between the wall and behind the speakers, as well as some distance between you and the speakers is that they send in the heavy ganache and grannies.
    It is neutral, precise and clear, all that I sought.
    I use them only for the monitoring, lapped in death metal and has an edirol fa66 dubstep.Branchées.
    Micro-flat, LED power on the facade of one of the speakers does not work anymore, now j tries to turn the other because it's blinding.
    Switches behind it sucks from home sucks. Damn but what they have in mind?
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  • stephanerunstephanerun

    Can do without

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 01/30/12 at 19:50
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice?
    The ribbon tweeters, massive bodies, the vents on the front (no worries for placement close to walls)

    For what purpose?
    Mixer for home recording and listening to relaxing close in stereo

    SOUNDS

    Just Fun in the balance and accuracy ... unsurpassed sound quality in the treble without fatigue and with a return exceeding the speakers expensive. The landscape is stunning sound. The dynamic is the appointment. I completed starting with the box prodipe 10S but I realized that the addition of a subwoofer is completely useless because these speakers are sufficient in themselves even in the grave

    OVERALL OPINION

    I really lo…
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice?
    The ribbon tweeters, massive bodies, the vents on the front (no worries for placement close to walls)

    For what purpose?
    Mixer for home recording and listening to relaxing close in stereo

    SOUNDS

    Just Fun in the balance and accuracy ... unsurpassed sound quality in the treble without fatigue and with a return exceeding the speakers expensive. The landscape is stunning sound. The dynamic is the appointment. I completed starting with the box prodipe 10S but I realized that the addition of a subwoofer is completely useless because these speakers are sufficient in themselves even in the grave

    OVERALL OPINION

    I really looked and listened to other brands of speakers but that jai found my happiness. I have three months and I only regret not having bought earlier. I had Yamaha HS80M and KRK before. I recommend the XLR wiring because I feel that the RCA gives results slightly lower.
    Price / quality ratio not found elsewhere in any case.
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  • SmoySmoy

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 02/16/09 at 01:50
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    - What characteristics have motivated your choice?

    The ribbon tweeter
    Power

    - For what purpose?
    Use in Home-studio
    Music mixing electro, rock, orchestral, world

    - What amp / What configuration? ...
    Sound Card Presonus Firestudio
    Amp (Monitor) Presonus Central Station

    SOUNDS

    The frequency curve is very neutral, they calmed down low compared to the model Pro 8
    To work on is having a infrabass mieu boomer (10 of the pro prodipe to look very good)
    The acute (thanks to the strip) are extremely well defined without being garish, it's really successful.

    The stereo image is the feature that struck me most, you can feel the slightest modulation of the mix when pa…
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    - What characteristics have motivated your choice?

    The ribbon tweeter
    Power

    - For what purpose?
    Use in Home-studio
    Music mixing electro, rock, orchestral, world

    - What amp / What configuration? ...
    Sound Card Presonus Firestudio
    Amp (Monitor) Presonus Central Station

    SOUNDS

    The frequency curve is very neutral, they calmed down low compared to the model Pro 8
    To work on is having a infrabass mieu boomer (10 of the pro prodipe to look very good)
    The acute (thanks to the strip) are extremely well defined without being garish, it's really successful.

    The stereo image is the feature that struck me most, you can feel the slightest modulation of the mix when panning.

    The dynamic is very good, € 500 for the pair is a really good job with Genelec, it would certainly double for the same result.

    I put 9 because it is always better, but at what cost!

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use it for 3 days
    I especially like the stereo, the frequency curve very neutral and allows precision work truly remarkable for this price range, treble very well defined. I regret piti a lack of bass (which can be solved by a subwoofer) but it's more a matter of taste. In any case, we can seriously work without any problems.

    Before, I was mixing on a stereo (admittedly very well made) and there are no photos. However, I participated in studio sessions and prodipe often have nothing to be ashamed in front of the competition, far from it.

    The value is unbeatable, really. You can find better but by putting a lot of sorrel and improvement will be very light. I'm sure these speakers will be a fair success (I hope).

    I do it again this choice with his eyes closed, I'm really amazed of value for money, unbelievable!

    edit: After heavy use for 4 days (a period of running) the bass out more, but getting better. They are in any case more than enough for us to vibrate the chest with a high volume and accurate enough to work. Speaker is really great for their price. The boomer prodipe is really necessary for musicians electro dancefloor typed or that kind of trip. Otherwise keep them like that, it nikel.
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  • trazomtrazom

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 05/20/09 at 08:28
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    - Speakers purchased for the monitoring (composition and mixing, gnralement in hip-hop), and branches on a PC config (all software).
    - Purchased for their little sisters reputable (Prodipe pro 8), and relying more arguments in favor of ribbon tweeters and a few articles logieux, because of their global CHARACTERISTICS and price . (Find new 400 pair)

    SOUNDS

    - Stereo Trs good image, provided they are placed correctly
    - Relatively neutral curve frequency drives (ear, for what is a) no frquence n'crase others.
    - The dynamic compliance.
    - The bass is lgrement down (below 60 Hz).
    - The highs are clear, but the sound is not cold.

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use them for a mon…
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    - Speakers purchased for the monitoring (composition and mixing, gnralement in hip-hop), and branches on a PC config (all software).
    - Purchased for their little sisters reputable (Prodipe pro 8), and relying more arguments in favor of ribbon tweeters and a few articles logieux, because of their global CHARACTERISTICS and price . (Find new 400 pair)

    SOUNDS

    - Stereo Trs good image, provided they are placed correctly
    - Relatively neutral curve frequency drives (ear, for what is a) no frquence n'crase others.
    - The dynamic compliance.
    - The bass is lgrement down (below 60 Hz).
    - The highs are clear, but the sound is not cold.

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use them for a month. I think I could not esprer better for the price. These are my Premire monitoring speakers, I so sorely lacks exprience to compare. However, the mixes with raliss Prodipe sound good then, when I costs elsewhere. I owe everything to even try to monitor the mix of low, remembering that these speakers tend to rduire.
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  • IronieIronie

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 09/29/09 at 15:11
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    FC CHARACTERISTICS opinions on previous ones, I branch with an XLR cable symtrique Prodipe of the ct and ct Jack's sound card. I would try also to connect my ds top platinum RCA that I bought the cable adquate.

    These are my Premire monitoring speakers before I was doing my mixes in the headphones, you suspect it's the day and night ... and I do not take the suspense by telling you right now that is nice in that light provided by Prodipe <img class="smiley" src="/images/audiofanzine/interface/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt="" /> .

    I use an external sound card with M-Audio Fastrack Ultra.

    That's sr ribbon tweeters that made me this pair prfrer another speaker, but also the wind for low f…
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    FC CHARACTERISTICS opinions on previous ones, I branch with an XLR cable symtrique Prodipe of the ct and ct Jack's sound card. I would try also to connect my ds top platinum RCA that I bought the cable adquate.

    These are my Premire monitoring speakers before I was doing my mixes in the headphones, you suspect it's the day and night ... and I do not take the suspense by telling you right now that is nice in that light provided by Prodipe <img class="smiley" src="/images/audiofanzine/interface/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt="" /> .

    I use an external sound card with M-Audio Fastrack Ultra.

    That's sr ribbon tweeters that made me this pair prfrer another speaker, but also the wind for low forward situ (which allows prs enough to place the walls). We always blame the buttons on the rear situs volumes ... So for 9 CHARACTERISTICS / price (because the tape that price ...).

    SOUNDS

    I had the pleasure to listen DIFFERENT styles of music on these speakers, which are what j'coute and what I mix is ​​to say roughly the Jazz's big fat t that Manson che.

    The Prodipe always follow the 8 "form a perfect balance between bass and treble, volume and HF zero, to try to remain neutral in the spirit trs.

    Being given that my Premire monitoring speakers, I expected all of the same frankly more depth between the different instruments of a mix, I thought they would leave more than a , may be is it the case of pregnant trs high-end but the means and that any dj trs neutral, so we dj in good condition to the mix. The sound does not seem to me more enjoyable than the chain of Hifi lounge (an old string of good quality it must be said), but they do not even use dstinent here we are in the monitoring, and the fact!

    I emphasize the bass because they are ideal for my use, unlike version 5 ", see below.

    I put 8 because I like to note STRID and I try to imagine the diffrence with trs good speakers (not a report that sanctions qualitprix but a report notes that the of Prodipe / trs sound good monitor speakers!).

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use them for 4 days, but I wanted to post this notice for two reasons:

    - I find the report qualitprix stunning, and these speakers mritent to be more known, so I post my impressions Premire for everything like me looking for advice before DCID

    - Deuxime The reason is that I wanted dcourager acqureurs the potential Pro Ribbon 5: I've tried both in stores and at low it REALLY day and night 100 for more was the real speaker quality and versatility, while the 5 "will be below requirements in too many musical styles. I do not dance mixes, hip hop, I do not need low wealth, but to do a real job with all the parliaments that make up a mix, grate should know better bass! And the 5 "seems to me really hard. And 8 "are standard fare really close, I hsit on paper, I cost the store, and I n'hsitais plus a second choice APRS COST <img class="smiley" src="/images/audiofanzine/interface/smileys/icon_lol.gif" alt="" /> .

    On paper the c'tait m'intressaient pregnant as I live Metz and even if there are any music stores I did not think one second to find this in a MODEL two ... Moreover, the only c'tait they possdaient MODEL! And more and 5 "and 8", they really m'taient prdestines ... !

    The qualitprix is ​​hardly beatable, I wanted to put 9.5 / 10, when in doubt, but as it is round ... will be a 10/10 <img class="smiley" src="/images/audiofanzine/interface/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt="" /> .

    <span style="text-decoration: underline;">SHIFT OF 12/12/09:</span> More and more captivated by these speakers, over time the bass is even better and emerged with the rest (of things), the instruments dtachent better and better, the COST I get lulled by the low and I hear the voice coming out IDAL, without forcing, so beautiful!

    Hint: I rcupr foam squares (2cm thickness only) my Boulo and I've placed below the speakers to avoid the propagation of sound with the office on which they are placed: I won a more "Aryan", for more dtach 0 is just perfect!
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  • jerry0301jerry0301

    Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8Published on 05/16/10 at 05:45
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    What technical characteristics have motivated your choice?
    The tapes and the quality prodipe

    For what purpose?
    Mix in home studio

    SOUNDS

    These speakers sound particularly well curve frequency drives is very neutral. Super dynamic bass but never a round cost her a real pleasure. The image of the stereo speakers is what jprefere I spend a little time to place them but once located these really great. The default sound is really only just a little loud music on hard bad mix, but nothing really good feet and things like lamb of god mix its own password.

    OVERALL OPINION

    For a month before I had yam HS50M well I prefer the one especially for acoustic music.
    Super qualit…
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    What technical characteristics have motivated your choice?
    The tapes and the quality prodipe

    For what purpose?
    Mix in home studio

    SOUNDS

    These speakers sound particularly well curve frequency drives is very neutral. Super dynamic bass but never a round cost her a real pleasure. The image of the stereo speakers is what jprefere I spend a little time to place them but once located these really great. The default sound is really only just a little loud music on hard bad mix, but nothing really good feet and things like lamb of god mix its own password.

    OVERALL OPINION

    For a month before I had yam HS50M well I prefer the one especially for acoustic music.
    Super quality price ratio I do not know if I refer this choice we see in a few months but for the moment yes
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