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Published on 04/27/08 at 02:23 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Everything has been said
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<p class="bbcode-cite"> Quote: <span>This is really where the rub and that's the reason I post this notice. Before you actually spend your money, know that this machine is virtually unusable live. Or you set it to sound more and you do not touch! The slightest error in the pitch and it sounds completely wrong. In short, the galley ...</span>
Yeah, like the violin, forget it, too hard. Oh shit, it's true, it's a bit like all the beats. Good drop the music ...
It's been four years since I use it, I am more than twenty concerts, all controlled with my mimine.
Widely used in live, you just get your feet against the other ... is that more o…Read moreEverything has been said
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<p class="bbcode-cite"> Quote: <span>This is really where the rub and that's the reason I post this notice. Before you actually spend your money, know that this machine is virtually unusable live. Or you set it to sound more and you do not touch! The slightest error in the pitch and it sounds completely wrong. In short, the galley ...</span>
Yeah, like the violin, forget it, too hard. Oh shit, it's true, it's a bit like all the beats. Good drop the music ...
It's been four years since I use it, I am more than twenty concerts, all controlled with my mimine.
Widely used in live, you just get your feet against the other ... is that more of see it as a bug that can guide, that really something on which you type.
SOUNDS
It sounds hard, it hard! Personally, we can largely take place in a punk band with this beast.
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It has become expensive! too expensive?See less03arnaud de padoue
Published on 06/23/08 at 11:08 (This content has been automatically translated from French)-
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Unpatched, in a hurry with a friend ... small sounds dangerous ... (This is not the way!)
A search tool efficient sound
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OVERALL OPINION
Hello, I personally know absolutely nothing about electronics and I admit that watching a 20 ms is quite terrifying. I compose easily with a tiesco, gladly module with its small buttons not repulsive, I can melodies, flat, soft, close to what I heard on the Theremin and Ondes Martenot. MS20 but it's something else ... Also I am afraid of losing spontaneity ...
But I greatly appreciate the use made of Felix Kubin ... after 20 years you say it!
It is very bouncy ... No?Read more-
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Unpatched, in a hurry with a friend ... small sounds dangerous ... (This is not the way!)
A search tool efficient sound
SOUNDS
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OVERALL OPINION
Hello, I personally know absolutely nothing about electronics and I admit that watching a 20 ms is quite terrifying. I compose easily with a tiesco, gladly module with its small buttons not repulsive, I can melodies, flat, soft, close to what I heard on the Theremin and Ondes Martenot. MS20 but it's something else ... Also I am afraid of losing spontaneity ...
But I greatly appreciate the use made of Felix Kubin ... after 20 years you say it!
It is very bouncy ... No?See less112Document02
Published on 06/22/08 at 23:18 (This content has been automatically translated from French)A semi-modular analog factory 78 83.
The sound is plutt stable, not too taken argler head, while keeping the cot in the living research synths of the era.
A possibility to return the external filters, and an external signal detector, converting an audio signal into signals:
- Filtrbr amplifier /> - Gate
- CV - frquence of Note
- CV envelope
It sounds unnecessary, but playing a little can make lots of sounds.
Only regret ... no CV for rsonances, a single output for the mod wheel cbler .. Once the modular taste, we always want more done.
the keyboard would MRIT an octave higher (and would have room to add more jacks ^ ^)
When the production quality, no complaints. Mtall…Read moreA semi-modular analog factory 78 83.
The sound is plutt stable, not too taken argler head, while keeping the cot in the living research synths of the era.
A possibility to return the external filters, and an external signal detector, converting an audio signal into signals:
- Filtrbr amplifier /> - Gate
- CV - frquence of Note
- CV envelope
It sounds unnecessary, but playing a little can make lots of sounds.
Only regret ... no CV for rsonances, a single output for the mod wheel cbler .. Once the modular taste, we always want more done.
the keyboard would MRIT an octave higher (and would have room to add more jacks ^ ^)
When the production quality, no complaints. Mtallique body, potentiomtres enjoyable turn, keyboard just right, rather pretty hard case (yes it's a gimmick, but a gadget that I quote) but heavy trs.
UTILIZATION
Ultra simple set up, the only point that MRIT to open the manual is the use of the sample & hold. Finally, for me, but I have a habit of some kind of synth.
SOUNDS
The sounds are top, good variation on a grain trs brand filters that saturate Fawn fun ... for clean sounds in against it will look elsewhere.
Prsence good in low but there be a monster.
In fact it has a synth sound trs typ it like it or not. In addition, I understand (a confirmed) that the sound of dpendait MODEL that we had, and some sounded bad trs. Briefly, a try, see if you like to or not.
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I love a little prt everything, and I reproached him for having given just want to spend the true modular.
Come on, I insist once again on the interface, which is a joy to use. everything falls to hand, is IMMEDIATE RULES, even change the pitch for deuxime oscillator, for which I had some anxiety, is quickly RULES.
A synth with a rating on the market opportunity is quite leve, he used t by many known and reputable groups has driven prices. It''s the only default, but it's still cheaper than analog rcent, which offers MIDI can be everywhere (and it is a joy throughout the South, the CV it will be tired very quickly), but this will not sound prsence specific to older hardware.
Advice to beginners: if you do not forget to buy a MIDI-CV converter at the same time if you want the squence from a PC, and Verify the number of cable available bte the patch.See less22tremble
Published on 08/04/08 at 05:56 (This content has been automatically translated from French)We know them, see below!
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Mega fastoche everything is accessible, everything is visible, you just need to understand the synthesis ... it's even with the MS20 I learned.
SOUNDS
- The sounds they agree with your style of music?
Sure
- Are they realistic?
This is the best joke of the manual, when providing patch to the sounds of oboe or piano hahaha! NO, not realistic, very synthetic and it is better that it does!
Please note the sound is not fat (like moog), there is a big diffrence between a moog and MS20, like between a gibson les paul (humbucker) and a Fender Start (single coil), the 20 ms is drier and brighter.
OVERALL OPINION
It's been good…Read moreWe know them, see below!
UTILIZATION
Mega fastoche everything is accessible, everything is visible, you just need to understand the synthesis ... it's even with the MS20 I learned.
SOUNDS
- The sounds they agree with your style of music?
Sure
- Are they realistic?
This is the best joke of the manual, when providing patch to the sounds of oboe or piano hahaha! NO, not realistic, very synthetic and it is better that it does!
Please note the sound is not fat (like moog), there is a big diffrence between a moog and MS20, like between a gibson les paul (humbucker) and a Fender Start (single coil), the 20 ms is drier and brighter.
OVERALL OPINION
It's been good 15 years ago that I have bought it 1500 Francs (just 200 Euros) in a perfect state of running, my first synth and it has changed my life. I think the MS 20 is great, because you can easily find it friends (SQ10, MS50, MS10) so they play together and that has made a pseudomodulaire cheap. Today the price of this synth is totally unfair, and those who sell for more than 500 Euros should be ashamed ... for 950 you can have 2 new Blofeld !See less11hiwattdoctor
Published on 04/18/09 at 18:28 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Quote: It's really here where the bat was injured and that's the reason I post this notice. Before you actually depart with your money, know that this machine is virtually unusable live. Or you set a sound and you do not touch it anymore! The slightest error in the pitch and it sounds completely wrong. In short, a bitch....
Sometimes people talk about things that he does not know well, in BLONDIE live there was a 20 ms and in many new wave groups of 80s, I even use my MS 20 live for 9 years!
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A great synth almost as well that a large modular (why Korg has released a not so terrible USB version and not a re-edition polyphonic with present and memory genre SIEL Opera 6 ha…Read moreQuote: It's really here where the bat was injured and that's the reason I post this notice. Before you actually depart with your money, know that this machine is virtually unusable live. Or you set a sound and you do not touch it anymore! The slightest error in the pitch and it sounds completely wrong. In short, a bitch....
Sometimes people talk about things that he does not know well, in BLONDIE live there was a 20 ms and in many new wave groups of 80s, I even use my MS 20 live for 9 years!
UTILIZATION
A great synth almost as well that a large modular (why Korg has released a not so terrible USB version and not a re-edition polyphonic with present and memory genre SIEL Opera 6 has made everyone agree)
SOUNDS
We do everything with a 20 ms just patch it
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10 years already that I have the beast I have to find a boyfriend (korg sq 10) so all of a sudden I'm looking for 50 ms so that they can have fun together with their little cousin Korg CX3!See less11pactole
Published on 05/22/09 at 09:02 (This content has been automatically translated from French)- (See below)
UTILIZATION
As indicated by its looks, it's the cables that prevails on this synth and therefore sound research, while both in the context of analog sound, vintage and quite powerful.
Obviously one can not quite re-create with this synth, but this constraint can also be more subtle in the search. The mono will not fit many pianists, I'm not.
SOUNDS
- The sounds they agree your style of music?
Do buy an MS20 that if you love the sound and of a suitable style of music, do not buy it for its looks or buttons. If you love it, you will love it right away for a long time. with MS20, MS20 are made of.
- Are they realistic?
The best for the realism of the i…Read more- (See below)
UTILIZATION
As indicated by its looks, it's the cables that prevails on this synth and therefore sound research, while both in the context of analog sound, vintage and quite powerful.
Obviously one can not quite re-create with this synth, but this constraint can also be more subtle in the search. The mono will not fit many pianists, I'm not.
SOUNDS
- The sounds they agree your style of music?
Do buy an MS20 that if you love the sound and of a suitable style of music, do not buy it for its looks or buttons. If you love it, you will love it right away for a long time. with MS20, MS20 are made of.
- Are they realistic?
The best for the realism of the instrument. In this case with the MS20, may be funny.
- What are the sounds that you prefer, that you hate? ...
I like the sound of the saxophone of the synth because it is not the sound of saxophone.
OVERALL OPINION
6 months now.
I like the constraints and the potential of this synth that encourages creativity.
It's not a synth that you buy on the fly, you have to listen to the sound, play with it a little, unless you find it for less than 300 euros, because you will resell without problem.
Finally, it's like an R4, it is indestructible.
I bought it knowingly and I'm obviously very pleased. See less11oryjen
Good old MS20
Published on 07/14/11 at 00:11 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Keyboard 3 octaves 1 / 2, pretty average quality, noisy (poor design of the springs placement).
All analog, a knob for a function on the left, taken by one or more jacks by function on the right. Semi-modular.
Among the twenty analog synths I use, none meets my sound ideas with such power. It is a tool for amazing creations!
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Simple, simple ... It's modular, you know. Must be somewhat aware anyway. When I bought it new 15 1 / 2 years ago in 1979, it was my first synth and I still felt a bit shit coming back with empty pockets with it at home. It took me a good week to get around it and to make the beginning of something. What you see here, back then, this contraption…Read moreKeyboard 3 octaves 1 / 2, pretty average quality, noisy (poor design of the springs placement).
All analog, a knob for a function on the left, taken by one or more jacks by function on the right. Semi-modular.
Among the twenty analog synths I use, none meets my sound ideas with such power. It is a tool for amazing creations!
UTILIZATION
Simple, simple ... It's modular, you know. Must be somewhat aware anyway. When I bought it new 15 1 / 2 years ago in 1979, it was my first synth and I still felt a bit shit coming back with empty pockets with it at home. It took me a good week to get around it and to make the beginning of something. What you see here, back then, this contraption was the cutting edge of technology. Too bad the French manual was poorly translated from English which was poorly translated from Japanese, so ...
After one time that you're in the bathroom, I'd say it's more than easy: This thing is running with great natural entoryillement the sound of your desires. Magic!
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This machine, unfortunately widely used by many penguins who call themselves' producers' suffered over the past fifteen years an unfair reputation without justification: "woâââ the MSeu20, filters that déchiiiirent low '! Waaa, the wild sound! Weee the small brute! "
etc ...
In truth, if you understand anything at patch panel, this synth is extremely versatile, a true chameleon of sound. It can do everything (if you're not too low ceiling).
OVERALL OPINION
I use mine since 1979. Excellent reliability. 2 small breakdowns and some cleaning of the keyboard contacts in 32 years. Which says it all?
Today, given the AF rating (absurd), the value is grotesque: Few people are really made for crushing sound that way. It is a rather a unique way of thinking. I do not see the Arp 2600 that really comes close. It means that all around this stinking bizness bike is maintained by rats who try to scrape the dough, and morons who liked to let it tell with between pognes they would be able to call it grâââv '
We live in a world, my poor lady ...
It's still a lot of old tired condensators, let's be reasonable.
Personally I will not pay more than 500 € (in good condition).
I will continue to make progress in the maintenance of all these old useless things.See less1314minimumvital
my first synth ...
Published on 07/15/11 at 05:44 (This content has been automatically translated from French)3 octaves.
UTILIZATION
the manual is essential for a beginner.
SOUNDS
It has analogue characteristics, but with his own signature.
OVERALL OPINION
The MS20 is the best gift my father gave to the 16 year old teenager 16 that I was ... 3800 francs back in 1980 it represented a healthy sum! I did not know very well exactly what was a synthesizer, and the MS20 introduced me to this world of such beautiful electronic instruments. Of course this is not a MOOG, it has no punching power to lead or bass. But it's a great synth that can draw fascinating sounds, for anyone who will lean on. Ah, I've spent hours trying to route signals through the "patch bay"! It deserves …Read more3 octaves.
UTILIZATION
the manual is essential for a beginner.
SOUNDS
It has analogue characteristics, but with his own signature.
OVERALL OPINION
The MS20 is the best gift my father gave to the 16 year old teenager 16 that I was ... 3800 francs back in 1980 it represented a healthy sum! I did not know very well exactly what was a synthesizer, and the MS20 introduced me to this world of such beautiful electronic instruments. Of course this is not a MOOG, it has no punching power to lead or bass. But it's a great synth that can draw fascinating sounds, for anyone who will lean on. Ah, I've spent hours trying to route signals through the "patch bay"! It deserves to qualify as a "Learning" synth, but it also has specific sonic qualities that make it recognizable. It's a real boy wizard, the MS20! Like all analogies, it works wonders as soon as it assists some reverb or delays, so do not be disappointed at first by its "dry" side a bit, if you listen to with no effect. It was in the belly! No wonder it is still sought after today ... on the other hand, its going second hand price seems excessive.See less41Janps
a real legendary instrument
Published on 07/20/11 at 10:34 (This content has been automatically translated from French)we are here with a monophonic 3 octaves synth that back in the days was called a research synth.... Wow Mr professor!
At same time as this can make you smile, this as such, says it all.
UTILIZATION
For those who are lucky enough to have a copy or original, the manual comes with leaf patches made with the found sounds such as game arrow and the result is not always convincing, it was necessary to use a little imagination in 1980, to find a piano sound at the time, but hey it was not for that either.
This machine has just a huge sound, it's pure analog snores bass ... to try it is a good experience. When I compose and I'm missing powerful color, it is there, quietly, to give…Read morewe are here with a monophonic 3 octaves synth that back in the days was called a research synth.... Wow Mr professor!
At same time as this can make you smile, this as such, says it all.
UTILIZATION
For those who are lucky enough to have a copy or original, the manual comes with leaf patches made with the found sounds such as game arrow and the result is not always convincing, it was necessary to use a little imagination in 1980, to find a piano sound at the time, but hey it was not for that either.
This machine has just a huge sound, it's pure analog snores bass ... to try it is a good experience. When I compose and I'm missing powerful color, it is there, quietly, to give grain and it works in the mix. We play this machine as a guitar, triturated (attention to the speakers as still there are frequencies that are very very very low) and it sometimes takes us where we do not send it, but it's really instinctive, very nice.
SOUNDS
As soon as we managed to set it the analog is a pure pleasure for those who love the sound, it's intuitive and very typical. Keyboard is solid and pleasant, a little patch .... ... experimental.
OVERALL OPINION
I've had synths for over 20 years and this machine is in the studio from a friend who got rid of it for 500 francs (€ 75) to buy a DX7 ... I had the nose at the time. It is a machine to treasure, I've never had a problem with it.
Try it, do yourself a favor if you can. Do not buy without trying .An MS20 likes it or not, and given the weight of the market price is not a trivial purchase. The fingers work the sound and the ear will do the rest, it's an experience ... very pleasant and very musical.See less12Yves Jusserand
The prices are really in the realm of ridiculous!
Published on 09/02/10 at 14:40 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Rubbish prices for MS20 and other analog instruments ... I bought mine for 80 euro ... And that is what it is!! Certainly no more! I do not sell it because it's my first synth (I want) but I do not use any of the compositions.
On stage, I think it's great to modulate a white noise with the LFO, but nothing more ...
UTILIZATION
... You know the subtractive synthesis sound and read the books (which are unfortunately out of print ...) Jean-Paul Verpeaux "Complete technical synthesizers" Volumes 1 and 2 ... But for sure above Volume 1!
SOUNDS
Sounds: Japanese: quite hard ...
OVERALL OPINION
With prices now, I'd rather buy a Prophet VS or a3 DX 7 !Read moreRubbish prices for MS20 and other analog instruments ... I bought mine for 80 euro ... And that is what it is!! Certainly no more! I do not sell it because it's my first synth (I want) but I do not use any of the compositions.
On stage, I think it's great to modulate a white noise with the LFO, but nothing more ...
UTILIZATION
... You know the subtractive synthesis sound and read the books (which are unfortunately out of print ...) Jean-Paul Verpeaux "Complete technical synthesizers" Volumes 1 and 2 ... But for sure above Volume 1!
SOUNDS
Sounds: Japanese: quite hard ...
OVERALL OPINION
With prices now, I'd rather buy a Prophet VS or a3 DX 7 !See less27nypo
For connoisseurs only ...
Published on 02/05/11 at 13:43 (This content has been automatically translated from French)modular and repatchable as you wish
Monophonic
no connection
UTILIZATION
Not so simple compared to today's beasts,
You need to understand subtractive synthesis and some basic electronics will be a plus!
If you know of solder jack, you can make cables in Y for more possibility still (eg to send a signal on 2 inputs).
Clearly this is something for connoisseurs- if you are not, you will not make it.
Of course, no memory, no midi, nothing like what makes the beloved charming (?) keyboards of today.
SOUNDS
Much interest is in modularity, the ability to tweak the cabling in all directions to find the sounds.
Searching carefully you can create great sounds with many h…Read moremodular and repatchable as you wish
Monophonic
no connection
UTILIZATION
Not so simple compared to today's beasts,
You need to understand subtractive synthesis and some basic electronics will be a plus!
If you know of solder jack, you can make cables in Y for more possibility still (eg to send a signal on 2 inputs).
Clearly this is something for connoisseurs- if you are not, you will not make it.
Of course, no memory, no midi, nothing like what makes the beloved charming (?) keyboards of today.
SOUNDS
Much interest is in modularity, the ability to tweak the cabling in all directions to find the sounds.
Searching carefully you can create great sounds with many harmonics.
If not for the musicality, bof! the monophony no longer amuses me.
OVERALL OPINION
I bought one in 1979, I do not know the price of a new one at the time and then after 3 years I made the mistake of selling it to buy I do not know what other beast!
2 days ago my daughter brings me a borrowed one from a friend. A MS20, 1982 that slept in an attic for over 20 years and saw the dust ...
After cleaning I reconnect it and I find myself 31 years ago.
The sounds are really good although a little cold compared to a Nord Rack, so it is a bit tight.
When I see the prices of second hands, really I want to scream with laughter, for 800 euro (Audiofanzine argus) run to buy something else (a prophet 5) for 200 euro it's worth it!See less06Anonymous
Published on 11/09/01 at 08:13 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Analog synthesizer-70s.
-Connection: 1 output audio (mono), Control CV / Gate
-Polyphony: 1 vocal ... yes, it's monophonic roots.
UTILIZATION
Confuguration-base although it is fairly simple, it is better to know about analog synthesis.
The manual is minimalist but not that bad
With patch-jacks ... for all configurations wildest ...
Limitless possibilities.
SOUNDS
-Style AIR MrOizo, Azzido Da Bass ... big bass techno dirty ...
Super filters....grain nice characteristics
-Can be used in lead ... but it's harder ... (like AIR).
OVERALL OPINION
-Use it for 6 months already
-Strong point: the sound, filters, grain, the configuration possibilities.
-Weak po…Read moreAnalog synthesizer-70s.
-Connection: 1 output audio (mono), Control CV / Gate
-Polyphony: 1 vocal ... yes, it's monophonic roots.
UTILIZATION
Confuguration-base although it is fairly simple, it is better to know about analog synthesis.
The manual is minimalist but not that bad
With patch-jacks ... for all configurations wildest ...
Limitless possibilities.
SOUNDS
-Style AIR MrOizo, Azzido Da Bass ... big bass techno dirty ...
Super filters....grain nice characteristics
-Can be used in lead ... but it's harder ... (like AIR).
OVERALL OPINION
-Use it for 6 months already
-Strong point: the sound, filters, grain, the configuration possibilities.
-Weak point is the Cv / Gate, so you have to use a converter midi / CV (1500F) for the controller or sequencer ... CV / Gate...on can also use a midifier, but it's expensive .
-To make good ltechno sound, it is very useful ... but not much versatility as all analog synths ..See less11
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