All user reviews for the Framus FR212 CS CB

I received this week and it's quite what I wanted for now! Namely a 2 * 12 cabinet light, strong, well finished and has the Celestion Vintage 30!
to replace a peavey 4 * 12 which sounded OK but that was cumbersome and less precise (the Sheffield are a bit outdated in parts sixteenth note, tremolo ...) this cabinet is perfect for me! never using my head at the height of its power (Laboga m.hector 100W) is enough! and for those who travel a lot it's nickel!
therefore excellent value for money!
small = less than a single entry 8ohms and it still does not sound like a mesa-boogie correct box but saw the good price I will not criticize hehe

very good speaker, I do not regret my purchase!

- How long have you use it?
bought 3 months ago on musik-produktiv to 280.00 euros !!!??

- What is so special that you like most and least?
the cabinet is pretty damn, the finish is very average but adequate, the construction is good wood is good, the signs are ajsutés, the side handles are practical, moderate weight is a plus. In short nothing special to say except the jack that I find the wiring and blah a bit late.

- Have you tried many other models before buying it?
some of them: Marshall 1960 4x12 with G12T, 1960 in Classic 4x12 clone, JCM800 4x12 with greenback, greenback in 1922 2x12, 2x12 Bogner Shiva in heritage G12M, Bogner 2x12 with V30, V30 Bogner 1x12 with.

Framus is in the high category in terms of sound. the projection is good, and the body does a good job of equalization with HP.

I recommend against by some small adjustments to perform better: throw the absorbent foam if you do not play heavy distortion detune only in C, put the speaker cable and a Top Quality Jack Switchcraft female and you tell me the news .

For those who play rock and blues rock loosen the moss and you will see the speaker to breathe ...

- How would you rate the quality / price?
Top

- With experience, you do again this choice? ...
without hesitation.

Reu before yesterday (ordered from Musicstore, delivered in one week, perfect packaging) and branch without delay on my head RH50T.
Well built (plywood 18 mm), well finished (Black Tolex), grille and logo fawn "Vintage" (we like it or not), not too heavy (21kg) and easy to handle (2 grips with mtal each ct), the box Submitted good.
The HP are two Celestion Vintage 30 16 ohm-spoke parallle => 8 Ohms. Power handling ad: 100 watts.
Whereas good enough blabla Aesthetics and technique: hook up the!
What strikes one first is the increased precision of sound, thanks to vintage 30. No serious drool and invade the rest of the sound spectrum, the rich and mediums Submitted, treble matriss. Nothing do with G12t75, caractriss a "hollow" in the mediums.
I guess that HP will evolve in time and indulge in the bass that are a little "stiff", which helps the impression of sharpness gnrale. Lovers of sounds like "we can turn the bass player" for a 4x12 optereont (aouch, my back!) Or other HP. The rest is the great slap. Finally, I hear what I play (sometimes it trsdstabilisant!) And the EQ of the amp I use something other than dsormais rduire the frquences Drang.
Driven by the curiosities j'enlverai may one day be part of the removable rear panel for audio will appreciate the diffrence.
I tried a Behringer 412S and frankly, I stopped after 5 min. No precision, no sound pressure (the last straw for a 4x12) and ... the impression that I was going to exploded if I pushed the volume!
With a budget of 300 euros, we are not losing (a vintage dj 30 Cost 100 euros, do the rest of the calculation if you need to buy wood grips, Tolex and c).
Makes you wonder how other brands of speakers fourguent less bloody (in the chipboard or MDF), with HP second-price suprieurs!
I intend to use it for many years. The question again the same choice would arise in case of loss or theft. But the conditions scabies (price / quality I plunged back without hsiter.
One complaint (but I do the hard l): the front panel could be inclined it to improve the distribution when the baffle is possible even the floor.

UPDATE: I chang the meantime head to a Laney amp GH50L. The Framus is still comorte bien.Petit downside: the Tolex is not trsrsistant. It remains to find a bag (I'm still looking ...) or a beefier Tolex (which would be an opportunity to make a remake or qquechose Snakeskin look like that, what I really tried )

- How long have you use it?
1 year

- What is the particular feature you like best and least?
Lightweight, lightweight, lightweight ... Finally, from my 4x12! HP quality. The machine dpanne me well, and relieves my back and my budget.
Even if the sound is better than the other marshall 1922 (thank you Vintage 30), the distribution is not unique (this is the price can not have a special box either). Now, my benchmark is my Famillia JCM800 4x12 cabinet (on the occasion, compare with baffles 900 ...). Forcment, it becomes difficult.

- Have you tried many other models before acqurir?
1936.1922, JCM900 cabinet (type in the 800, there's no picture!) And my 800 in gt65

- How do you report qualitprix?
Unbeatable. Or, they must fly.

- With the exprience, you do again this choice? ...
I have especially chosen for the report qualitprix, and in this context, without hsiter yes! It m'amne a more friendly for clean (thank you V30). Despite its weight, this box is not so bad, and I tell myself that someday I will add a deuxime but quip in gt65 to broaden the sonic palette. You can go there with closed eyes.

I use it for 5 months, with an amp Hartke GT100, which despite its price-of-daisies flush does not hurt at all.
I love the ability of the cabinet to swing any kind of distortion and clean sound with absolute precision. The look I love: vintage, but sober.
Question strength, it inspires confidence frankly, with a perfect fit, metal handles on each side, and fitting reinforcements in the corners. However, the Tolex (yet very clean and pleasant to the touch) tends to deteriorate at the hands (cinderblock garage, stop the door closes by itself ,...).
The quality / price ratio have not less incredible when you see the quality of the speakers, especially the level of regular price of Framus (up to € 2187 for the same 2x12 "with a box of solid wood. .. quilted maple! http://www.framus.de/modules/produkte/produkt.php?submenuID=14172&katID=11077&cl=EN ).

In short, a dream accessible to € 300, and without surprises, or that good!

I use it for 1 year with a Plexi 50 MODEL 1968

I find trs well for its price even if I rev the V30 soon lass. I do not know, I do not like them much, too prescriptive, too sharp in the center. In fact, the sound is not and never homogne REPRESENTATIVES sound of the amp according to its place. I replaced the eminence v30 by half the price, a governor who is a v30 and a modified jack which is a private greenback with a yield equivalent to v30 and also changes. This is ultra v30 concerns and has nothing to do with the same baffle him. We will not criticize a mesa mesa because it sounds ..

It is so heavy, 18 mm rib. No crumbling AGLO: RAS. Impeccable craftsmanship, no default, it's clean and neat.

SO:

For the budget I had, on occasion, is happiness, we can not really be better bcp. Its default is the biggest quality of Tolex. It's worse than a handbag counterfeit euro. The mine is cut across, it takes a dplacement each pet in the car, he claws and is very easy trs trs end. I personally do not care if he likes, I do it again later. The grillcloth is brown and can not please everyone. Framus logo trs is ugly, I vir immediately and placed a black logo eminence Instead, trs trs proprre neutral.

I do not know if I do it again the same choice as I did not bcp of exprience with others especially with other speakers hp. With the same budget, yes and sometimes twice a day.
CONCLUSION: You emissions in your budget? You need the performance with v30 (..)? You do not care of the head of the cabinet and his Resistors Aesthetics? This cabinet is for you!

rating: - 2 for Tolex really too low end.

Used for 5 months now, I can swing this notice to enlighten qquns ....
So for more, we have the price, the vintage 30 in it, the impedance of 8 ohms, home delivery in against-refunding.

I have to tempt fate, because even Toulouse, find a vintage 2 x 30 super opportunity and quality of matrial with bin must get up really trstt ...

So mail on a site Teutonic.

I had extensions diffrent, the homemade, the marshall, the Laney, but I could not touver The definition and the bass / precision ncessaires complment in my Laney combo LC 50.

The only ones that could have gone, I think, are the mesa, but 600 euros occasion, not in my budget n'tait baffle.

I opened his arrival, no P, exemplary finish, plywood of 18, good welds, retractable back panel, I needed it no more.

Well, the sound is perfect for my setup, namely that 'it is to give the chest of his combo.
It trs good job.
It helps the galiseut the amp do its taff ...

Branch alone on the Laney, it is understandable why these appeal to mtalleux HP, tightened his trs pais, Dfine too well for me, I need the combo for a slut in English ...

339 euros all inclusive.
The ratio Q / P is 10 for me!
All I need nothing more.

I had to wait three months for it, I thank t patient enough, the hardware is of excellent quality and is facing no problem for professional use.

IMMEDIATE this choice I ever did in my current setup ...
I n'achterais jummeau not her if I had to switch to + amp head, I couple a pair of HP prcis least, but I would keep.

edit of March 31, 2009
Well, with the 2X12 Laboga I possde now j'quilibre the note Framus 8, the comparison between the two requires.

I use it for 6 months. bought from thomann
I prices for the V30 that are in it. style me any more than a flat but hey, the price really silent floor
I had the opportunity to try a Boogie 2X12 with black shadows. I RPET rgulirement on Marshall 4X12 ....
This Cab is really lightweight! a low volume, but okay, good DEFINITIONS, its grain and correct, but is sorely lacking a low-low level, nothing abnormal. Ds to Play hard and group .... So it's the disaster. S'crabouille sound, low drool and lose The definition, are the sharp and aggressive mdium, Ben gnral in the soup, there do what they can ...
it is possible that my head (a Brunetti Pirata Valvemix) is not compatible with the V30, many users say Brunetti, but when even. celestion + brunette in a "small" Laney 4X12 (which belongs to my singing) a ring! Marshall sounds in one! so I tell myself that this cab is not breathing or closed pas.Ouvert is the same, the slurry has a high volume!
I trsdu, suddenly I'm looking for an alternative. I find myself saying that by making a ring for me was even better.

c'tait if a redo, I would spend my way to buy and You Save the REAL stuff, not of the m. ..

I use this speaker for 2 years.
Excellent quality workmanship, this speaker is still not very pretty (matter of taste) but the quality / price / performance is unbeatable.
However, I redo all the wiring with wire hp 2.5 mm2 copper, silver solder, changed the jack plate + aluminum house. I turned the wool acoustic set of wheels.
After these few mods almost mandatory on most mid-range speakers on the market (Marshall, Peavey ...) and inexpensive, I get a speaker with excellent projection, Vintage 30 breathe in this well used open back ( can be removed 1 / 3 of the cover plate), a very vintage sound that fully respects the grain of my head Marshall Vintage Modern 2266h.
Little detail is important, this cabinet handles are steel.
So, to summarize, this cabinet is an excellent compromise for those like me who they put all their money into the amp head. For 280 € you have a cabinet equipped with Celestion Vintage 30, a quality manufacturing, and over all sound quality perfect.
If it all over again, yes I would do without this choice problem.