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jctroyes « Simply amazing and formidable »
Published on 08/28/12 at 02:50You can read a little bit of everything on this console. I still wanted to supplement and / or clarify certain issues.
A few months before my purchase, this console was still about 30.000euros (in my version see below). I would come in more detail the components used and qualitée of these.
For baseline characteristics veiled basically all that comes to mind and not lose too much time:
72 tracks, 12aux, 2Cue, 1TalkBak compatible 5.1, monitoring Stéréo/4.0, 4.1 and 5.1 VST Waves / UAD and URS, 2 plug per track EQ / Comp / Gate on all tracks / Masteur / to, to 44khz 192khz/24bits, convertion frequency independent on all inputs, with full automation editor, surface types mackie control 24 tracks, sync picture MMC / MTC SMPTE ...
UTILIZATION
The Working! Its strong point!
Devised a console brewed up digital signals, automate the console, having a control surface for the software we use, loading a project in a few seconds while the patch and configure visual and interaction icroyable human / machine ... This is awesome.
I tried an equivalence and it is very difficult to find without sacrificing features. Working comfort is simply the best I have ever encountered. I really like the Yamaha DM2000 and Sony DMXR100 but the comfort of the past can not hold a candle to the Mackie DXB200.
About crashes: It's very simple ... This is a problem with the Midi sync. I assure you that ALL crashes (rare) that I had at the beginning was a mistake and / or Midi configuration (automation, control surface emulated sync image ...) once configured ... it works perfectly.
Both problems use are:
1 / Noise of ventilation that can be changed once frankly declined.
2 / manual delay compensation VST (when output ProTools was at the same point then ...
From the moment users know that they XPe architecture and imagine that you can do anything with it! ... and plant ...
I know I did it myself in the beginning ... Once it is quiet and you ca use it as a console. It is very stable and reliable. For Tascam and Yamaha already had (several years) I do not regret anything at all (especially not the Tascam)
SOUNDS
Nobody ever talks about the sound of this console and that's a shame. Well it is digital so we will talk mostly preamp / converters and micro
Converter is the AKM 5394a (I remember you back to ca per message) circuits with Burn & Brown upscale analog part. Roughly 95% identical to the RME and RME OctaMic 8DS. And this is the model just below the converter UA2192 (pin compatible for aventuriés). Part convertion is strong enough I sold at the time as my RME converters render sound very similar look better in the subwoofer.
In the studio I Neve1073, ChandlerTG2, Trident S80 (voila for more colorful) évidament there is no magic that you can have with these references but the sound is in all respects identical to the Hearing / RME (tested on several scéances). The preamplifier is perfect for rhythm parts. on the other hand for singing and other main track a large slice of good will when the colorful pro key to your projects.
Map 8 preamp can be between 1500 and 1800euros
Map 4 preamp can be between 960 and 1099 euros
Map AES 990euros
ADAT card 550euros
The console was originally between 18,000 15,000 (before the big chutte prices)
ADAT card to avoid the above 44khz because they are not all day
The FireWire card to avoid completely because it may offer features and it causes crashes like Tascam, as in Motu and digidesign003.
OVERALL OPINION
The big price drop qualitée devalued the real sound and technique of this console. Once the console hands, compare it to others and you will see that to find the comfort, options, qualitée you should reach a pretty penny and sometimes scrifiant options.
Thomann helped them to malgrés this vision sold between 3200 and 2800 euros (without options acune) she took a nasty blow to his popularity. The worst is that some sites had yet to 17,000 euros (without options) at this time. I know of more than a few months before I was a quote by a Parisian club with a total approaching 30,000 euros. When I saw the offer Thomann I did not wait a second longer. I have a thought for those who bought ç this price ...
Do not miss this console ...
Last thing: Use it to AES / EBU and Analog few cards is the best configue.
A few months before my purchase, this console was still about 30.000euros (in my version see below). I would come in more detail the components used and qualitée of these.
For baseline characteristics veiled basically all that comes to mind and not lose too much time:
72 tracks, 12aux, 2Cue, 1TalkBak compatible 5.1, monitoring Stéréo/4.0, 4.1 and 5.1 VST Waves / UAD and URS, 2 plug per track EQ / Comp / Gate on all tracks / Masteur / to, to 44khz 192khz/24bits, convertion frequency independent on all inputs, with full automation editor, surface types mackie control 24 tracks, sync picture MMC / MTC SMPTE ...
UTILIZATION
The Working! Its strong point!
Devised a console brewed up digital signals, automate the console, having a control surface for the software we use, loading a project in a few seconds while the patch and configure visual and interaction icroyable human / machine ... This is awesome.
I tried an equivalence and it is very difficult to find without sacrificing features. Working comfort is simply the best I have ever encountered. I really like the Yamaha DM2000 and Sony DMXR100 but the comfort of the past can not hold a candle to the Mackie DXB200.
About crashes: It's very simple ... This is a problem with the Midi sync. I assure you that ALL crashes (rare) that I had at the beginning was a mistake and / or Midi configuration (automation, control surface emulated sync image ...) once configured ... it works perfectly.
Both problems use are:
1 / Noise of ventilation that can be changed once frankly declined.
2 / manual delay compensation VST (when output ProTools was at the same point then ...
From the moment users know that they XPe architecture and imagine that you can do anything with it! ... and plant ...
I know I did it myself in the beginning ... Once it is quiet and you ca use it as a console. It is very stable and reliable. For Tascam and Yamaha already had (several years) I do not regret anything at all (especially not the Tascam)
SOUNDS
Nobody ever talks about the sound of this console and that's a shame. Well it is digital so we will talk mostly preamp / converters and micro
Converter is the AKM 5394a (I remember you back to ca per message) circuits with Burn & Brown upscale analog part. Roughly 95% identical to the RME and RME OctaMic 8DS. And this is the model just below the converter UA2192 (pin compatible for aventuriés). Part convertion is strong enough I sold at the time as my RME converters render sound very similar look better in the subwoofer.
In the studio I Neve1073, ChandlerTG2, Trident S80 (voila for more colorful) évidament there is no magic that you can have with these references but the sound is in all respects identical to the Hearing / RME (tested on several scéances). The preamplifier is perfect for rhythm parts. on the other hand for singing and other main track a large slice of good will when the colorful pro key to your projects.
Map 8 preamp can be between 1500 and 1800euros
Map 4 preamp can be between 960 and 1099 euros
Map AES 990euros
ADAT card 550euros
The console was originally between 18,000 15,000 (before the big chutte prices)
ADAT card to avoid the above 44khz because they are not all day
The FireWire card to avoid completely because it may offer features and it causes crashes like Tascam, as in Motu and digidesign003.
OVERALL OPINION
The big price drop qualitée devalued the real sound and technique of this console. Once the console hands, compare it to others and you will see that to find the comfort, options, qualitée you should reach a pretty penny and sometimes scrifiant options.
Thomann helped them to malgrés this vision sold between 3200 and 2800 euros (without options acune) she took a nasty blow to his popularity. The worst is that some sites had yet to 17,000 euros (without options) at this time. I know of more than a few months before I was a quote by a Parisian club with a total approaching 30,000 euros. When I saw the offer Thomann I did not wait a second longer. I have a thought for those who bought ç this price ...
Do not miss this console ...
Last thing: Use it to AES / EBU and Analog few cards is the best configue.