All user reviews for the Roland VS-2480 CD
No installation worries here as the unit is self contained. The scrolling functions would be a bit painful to learn, but the optional VGA output allows an interface which is way more intuitive than the included small screen. Many people knock on the manual, but I found the information to be very organized…though it is extensive and massive. The DVD manual is ok; I watched it once and never again. If you ever used any vs type machine from Roland- like the 880, 1680, or 2400- then you’ll jump right into this unit seamlessly.
Brand new these units came stock with a vs8f2 effects card. Decent sounds available, from delays to reverbs to mastering compressors- pretty much anything you would ever need. The only poor sounds were from the COSM guitar sims, which I found unusable. The real problem is the number of times you can use it: if you’re using inserts, you are quite limited. Post fx is more plentiful, so one can put reverb on every track if desired. It’s almost a necessity to upgrade by installing additional fx cards, up to 4 total. The vs8f3 is a step up in quality, and the 3rd party plugins are a huge step up. These are becoming more scarce as production stopped a few years ago, but if you are staying in the box, this is a great toolkit to acquire. Best scenario may be to find a vs2480 used, forget finding the fx cards (because they are scarce and expensive) and utilize the vs for tracking knowing that you can bring it into a cpu for mixing and fx. This strategy makes the unit good bang for your buck in terms of tracking 16 at a time relatively cheap.
Best thing is the stability- this unit is much more stable than most pc and will not embarrass you by crashing and losing data. It is a rock. The 16track capability is wonderful. Negatives include load up time- saving and recalling projects takes waaaaay longer than any modern day cpu DAW. The extra components- if you can even find them- are pricey. You will need the special cables and interfaces to be able to transfer 16 tracks at a time into a pc. Otherwise you’re stuck with 2 at a time through spdif, which is totally horrifying. I believe the capability to add PC/Mac interface was available at the time of production, but Roland attempted to keep their system isolated from the rest of the world’s DAWs. This philosophy killed the platform, as technology and musicians gravitated towards universal DAWs which are easily transferred.
This was a great value 8-10 years ago, but now (even used) one may be advised to look elsewhere. There are too many issues trying to bring the projects onto DAWs to allow collaboration. The one application which may still be useful is in recording live performances: the unit could be setup at rehearsal or live shows pretty quickly and the results are fairly good. For a long time I praised the vs platforms, but I have since migrated…if you can find one used and cheap cheap, give it a shot- but don’t pay close to the thousands that it originally cost.
Bottom line: this was a "10/10" in 2004; in 2012 it's a "1/10"
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Too many to mention! Very complete though!
8 XLR in & 8 TRS jacks in, i think, plus high impedance in, 2 phones out with individual volume & monitoring volume too, TRS jacks out, digital in & out on optical and coax but no ADAT or AES/EBU (u need an expensive R-BUS option for that...bastards).
- what is the sampling rate (bits/kHz)?
I believe it goes up to 24/96. Check the manufacturer's site though.
- What storage format is used (ZIP, MiniDisc, hard disc...)?
Hard drive (80 GB) with CD burner, can be altered to DVD burner for 50 € if u buy the right one (check vsplanet.com forums for info, great forum!).
- What types of synchronization are supported?
I think it does MTC, Wordclock, MIDI & spdif or something like that. Maybe more, not sure.
- How many tracks can be recorded/read simulaneously?...
16 tracks written, 24 read.
- Is the general configuration/setup simple?
I had the VS-1680 before and expected to know how to use this. Well i don't...
- Are the typical functions easily accessible?
You need some time with the manual, but default set up lets u record right away.
- Is the manual clear and sufficient?...
Clear manual, yeah, just a complex machine...very powerful.
- Are the A/D and D/A convertors transparent?
Sound ok to me but the preamps are a bit light.
- are the effects and filtres good?
The effects are real good, and you can get VS plug-ins too, that sound even better.
- Are the dynamics respected?...
Yep, all good there.
- For how long have you been using it?
A few months.
- What thing do you like most/least about it?
It's not a pc.
It has NO LATENCY, folks. HEAR THAT YOU PC LOVERS? NO LATENCY. Yep, go find yourself a pc that can do that & give me a ring. Haha.
- Did you try many other models before getting this one?
Had a 4 track cassette, then 8 track cassette, then 16 track digital.
Tried PC software and hated it. This thing actually records.
- What is your opinion about the value for the price?
The European price is a scandal (4500 € ? Go to H*LL!). So i imported this from the US, where even with customs fees & VAT it's WAAAAYYYY cheaper. I paid 3000 $, with some added stuff thrown in. Altogether was half price.
Go find 16 preamps, 48 compressors, 48 EQs, all those effects, at least 20 converters...and a zero latency PC for that money.
Oh, and don't forget to buy a MIDI control surface with motorised faders...
THIS IS THE BEST VALUE ON THE MARKET, EVEN TODAY.
- Knowing what you know now, would you make the same choice?...
Of course i would. This works with Pro Tools, the very cheap Reaper software, with everything...you can import your tracks into your pc easily...or you can just do everything in the box.
I put a little time to tame it! it's still a great bike! once we took the logic of the machine, it's pretty simple!
converters are correct but most (like preamps)! I find that the effects rather walk a lot!
I have since 2003. before I had the 1680! the side "compact" is very interesting! is that I love above everything is mastered with!!
I have found no equal! it is clear this machine has a good grain to it like it or not! I'm used to! I'm more taken with, but really for mastering!
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Phil443's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)" More convenient you die."
See other reviews. One may regret the absence of input / output and XLR inputs / outputs in AES / EBU, but given the small size of the machine, we can understand.
What is the storage media (ZIP, MD, HDD ...)?
Basically hard drive, but the slot can use the SCSI ZIP, an external HDD ... etc.
How many tracks can be recorded / played time? ...
Sample Rate 48/44.1/32kHz: [16tr.Rec/16tr.Play (M24, M16, CDR), 16tr.Rec/24tr.Play (MTP, MT1 / 2, LIV, LV2)
Sample Rate 96/88.2/64kHz: [8tr.Rec/8tr.Play (M24, M16, CDR), 8tr.Rec/12tr.Play (MTP, MT1 / 2, LIV, LV2)
What is the accuracy of sampling (bits / kHz)?
Convertos 24-bit, 96kHz max.
What type of sync are supported?
Word Clock and SMPTE via MIDI in / out (+ MTC then).
The general configuration is simple?
Yes, a little grip and go. Mouse, keyboard and screen highly recommended.
The manual is clear and sufficient?
The U.S. version is flawless.
The usual functions are they easily accessible?
Nickel, simpler seems difficult to do.
The A / D converters and D / A are transparent?
Yes, no specific staining signal, they would be almost a bit "cold". But if you're lucky enough to have other convertos upscale, nothing prevents us from inserting them into digital for largest catches.
The dynamics are respected?
Yes, and 48 compressor / expanders available on the bike can do mumuse max.
The effects and filters are effective?
No worries: 4-band parametric + / - 15dB comprehensive on each slice, I read someone who does not find the "music". With all the subjectivity that term has, I do not see the report. Filtering is effective and that's the point.
For the effects section, there are plenty in this area with a generally sound quality is excellent. The addition of a card-3 VS8F effects prove to be very meaningful and will gain opportunities and quality with strong collections of plug-ins.
For how long have you been using it?
7 years well packed and not a shadow of concern from the fragments that are crippling the HD machine. So do regular backups and format the disk to start again on a new one. Good attention, the rate of use is that I'm maybe not that everybody's not over.
Did you try many other models before getting this one?
Oh yes, his little brothers style VS-1680 VS-1880 or VS-1824, Yamaha, Korg and ... Nothing to do with the VS-2480. Whether in terms of usability, flexibility, quality or opportunities, this machine leaves the competition far behind. Its portability makes it my favorite device for recording live where I do not hesitate to chain together to get the desired number of tracks.
Knowing what you know now, would you make the same choice?
Without hesitation, no person offers equivalency on the market.
What thing do you like most/least about it?
What's more: the enormous flexibility combined with more than adequate performance in all sectors.
The -: the TRS audio connections only for the analog part, the lack of AES / EBU and USB port.
What is your opinion about the value for the price?
Excellent, hard to charge more for a machine to less than 5000 €, and that can be purchased for less than $ 4,000 in the States ...
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GuillaumeF's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)
Symtriques 16 analog inputs (16 XLR jack with 6.35 and 8 + 1 spare power phantme between high impdence Instrument).
RBUS 2 digital inputs (2 x 8 in / 8 out) Roland format that can be converted to ADAT format converter via DIF-AT (500 EUR after all the same)
Between an optical SPDIF
1 SPDIF RCA
- What is the precision of chantillonage (bits / kHz)?
16/24 bit - 32/44.1/48/64/88.2/96 KHz (with restrictions - see below)
- What is the storage media used (ZIP, MiniDisc, hard disk ...)?
Hard Disk Storage IDE Internal (80 Giga) and / or external disk SSCI
Projects can be exports CD R / RW (backup) or wave format. However burning audio CD mastering APRS can only be done if the project is recorded at 44.1 Khz! So be careful if you want to work in 48 or 96, because you can burn the master CD (sr but you can always export it to wave format to convert on your PC with the selection tool (WaveLab etc.). .
- What type of sync are supported?
MTC sync, word clock (in), STMPE (in), SPDIF (in and out). Unfortunately, no word clock out.
- How many tracks can be registered / read simultanment? ...
Dpendant recording format:
- Max 16/24 16/24 32 bit 48 Khz
- Max 8 / 12 16/24 64 96 bits HHZ
- Max 16/16 16/24 32 bit 48 Khz
- Max 8 / 8 16/24 64 96 bits HHZ
Basically, a good quality recording trs (24-bit 96Khz uncompressed it is an 8-track for a good quality recording (24 bit 48Khz uncompressed), it s 'acts of 16 tracks and not a 24!. APRS, depending on the style of music compression formats can do and then you have to make a 24 tracks. But not for my use .
10 for the connection in gnral and VGA screen
-2 For the format RBUS
One for recording formats
A CD for grveur integrbr /> -1 for burning audio project only 44.1
-1 For the number of tracks without compression
- The configuration gnrale Is it easy?
Very simple and intuitive. A real treat, especially with VGA screen. I emphasize this point.
- The usual functions are they easily accessible?
I do all the mice, but the hardware is available trs.
- The manual is clear and sufficient? ...
As usual, medium / good.
- The A / D and D / A are transparent?
It's going. Difficult to compare with the super high end stuff (Digidesign, Apogee, RME ...). But it was worth the money.
- Effects and filters are effective?
Blah blah blah. The 5-band equalization paramtrique really complte trs. However it is not great music. It's numrique, so it does not blow at all especially on rglages extreme, but it does not sound great. But it was worth the money. As for effects, rverbes are correct, but I do not compare my M3000 ...
- The dynamic is it respect?
All dpend just the recording format. The pramplis are not great - but not too noisy. APRS, if you bump into uncompressed dynamics is quite correct, otherwise I find it quite poor, making it compact enough and sounded him stick. But it was worth the money.
- How long have you use it?
I use it for two years.
- What is the particular feature you like best and least?
I record my group and rptition apprcie transportabilit greatly. The VGA screen is a more standard for ergonomics and I can not do without.
What is the least j'apprcie connectivity RBUS the pramplis, the number of tracks in uncompressed format (16 instead of 24).
- Have you tried many other models before acqurir?
I was next to the Yamaha and Tascam ct, but nothing super compelling when you want a powerful and portable.
- How do you report qualitprix?
Good value for money.
- With the exprience, you do again this choice?
With exprience, I would leave on a solution plutt PC (like Carillon rack) Empowered with Cubase SX3.0, RME MADI card, converters AD8-DS, an analogue desk with good trs pramplis and some analog compressors not to saturate before the digital conversion. However, it would have cost 3 4 times more expensive, but I could have done recording 32 tracks at 96 kHz 32-bit floating plutt than 16 tracks in 24 bit 44.1 KHR ... But hey, we pay for
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slidespirit's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)
Simply gnialisime! personally before I vs2480cd dabord had a 12 dps (lorreur absolute) and a trs WAS vs1824 dja well set apart for the editing trs ct or boring compared to Cubase or any other sequencer soft. BUT on the vs2480 c of pure bomb imperatively used with external Crant over a mouse and a keyboard and foot simply c, really gnial ...
the function and its easy to find several shortcuts that are really good ..
The manual is quite correct lacks a bit of example, and especially in terms of the routing section c nivo just a little explanation but ...
Nivo trs converter is for me hard to tell what I know the sound c Plai me really! may be missing some "width" but fits me quite. The effects are also quite good but it is fast enough clich the effect I think, nothing will replace a rack or other TC but hey c after a budget issue.
I use it for 6 months I buy for 2600 with two of OCCAZ card effect included. What I like the sound on number of input and output of the fader motorized use. I do not like the price of options (such as the meter band roland costs 1000 Mb 24 they do not care of our mouths)
nivo report quality price I think it is better if you buy it new as a 4500 hours the beast is not carément I shall now lay was half price and then the really unbeatable c (especially mine is still under warranty and fully nine amazing c) ...
I personally would do it 10 times this choice if it was needed more in the high-end multi-d c when not even the worst (the prim United States as the best multi) I have no reason to take another model, if I spare one day it will config to switch on a PC / MAC and even then I vs me because it can be used as a control surface configured (and after the manual and can have nothing to envy the Mackie Control ect ....)
vramient gnial a bit expensive but not really start functioning OCCAZ ahsit lol
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Anonymous 's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)
Basically, check the manufacturer's website, there is too much to say ....
I am not a specialist in so I am unable to get the finer points of Retailer beast.
In the highlight résumé that made me buy the Roland is the prsence of 16 entries with 8 XLR which can record 16 tracks at the same time. It is actually possible to record a live concert with a quality pro.
I save a quintet or a sextet of jazz as day. I put six microphones on the battery, 4 channel for keyboards, a way for the Fender Rhodes, a way for the bass, a way for the sax, one track to the guitar and if you are well aware I still have to Instead ...
The other is the INTERESTED monstrous 60 GB hard drive that can record without asking any question of saturation of the disk (1:30 music by recording 16 channels at the same time about 6 REPRESENTATIVES 8 gigas ).
Finally, the drive is screwed up and reliable.
I had a dj Roland VS840.
So I do not t too dpays. It's generally pretty simple.
After one week, one manipulates the bte without much problem. Again, there is a max function whose usefulness m'chappe for the use I make.
The manual is generally not well done in all cases less than the VS840. With energy and motivation, even when you get there. The guy who invests in a Euro 4500 is all fawns magnto even when motivated to get it to work ....
Frankly, the sound comes out of this unit is stunning.
I am not ingnieur sound or technician or auditor with ECM but in any case, I am fulfilled because the records that I can do with my Roland trs are really correct. The dynamics are good, the sound is when I Dfine yet only records that live and never RE-RE.
I can not imagine what a Pro should be able to do with this stuff!
For effects, there are 345000000 and I have not really understand the intrt. I put only a minimum of delay and a tad of reverb (plate) and the fact. For music I like, this range of effects parat me be the domain of the gadget.
I have for almost a year.
He never plant I use it every Sunday and it is the foot.
Basically, the sound is top, using a simple APRS PERIOD short learning, and the device is reliable.
The possibilities seem almost endless.
APRS hsit really have because of the price of the cot and squinting of 8 entries at Korg and Yamaha, I finally crack and no time have I regretted my purchase.
A single hazard +++++++: catch the virus taken from his!
This is what happened to me and I'm dfoncer my cellar it to improve the acoustic and ruin me in micro ...
It is clear that such a gem should ABSOLUTELY be associated good microphones.
In short, if you have the tunes, go for it.
If you plan plutt use Home Studio Re-Recording, it may be no need to invest that much. An 8 inputs can probably be enough and we now find prices hallucinating.
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