Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
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Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio

Goth Les Paul Studio, LP-Shaped Guitar from Epiphone in the Les Paul series.

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Average Score:3.9( 3.9/5 based on 17 reviews )
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Mythrandir104/19/2015

Mythrandir1's review"Simply a gem!"

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
This is the first guitar I bought and even though I have a Fender Strat lying around nowadays, this is the one I use for every music style I play. It is more than worth the price and I won’t exaggerate if I say that this guitar can be placed against some of the higher grade guitars which cost three times as much.
Before I continue, I need to mention that I have modified my Les Paul by changing the stock bridge pickup to a Seymour Duncan SH4 and I will separately discuss how this guitar behaves with its stock setup as well as with the SH4, which is probably the most commonly used upgrade in any LP. There was nothing wrong with the stock pickup; the replacement was a simple matter of taste which was also influenced by that little fanboy who lives inside all of us when it comes to our idols.

Features

As the name would suggest, this guitar is covered in a black satin finish which gives it a dark, somber look to it, while it lacks the standard fret inlays, except for the 12th fret which has the Roman numeral XII to add to its design. This is a solid body guitar, all in one piece built out of mahogany which gives the guitar a rich, warm tone. The neck is smooth with fast action, while being rather thick like most Les Pauls, especially when compared to typical Stratocasters which have skinny necks. The Tune-o-Matic Bridge used on this guitar is very simple and practical in design, making it extremely easy to adjust the guitars intonation, while its simplicity in design helps with a little extra boost of sustain when playing. This Epiphone boasts to have Grover tuning pegs, which hold the guitar in tune quite well if the stringing has been done correctly, even though I did have to grease up the interior of one of the pegs because it kept slipping during the tuning process.

The guitar comes standardly equipped with 2 open coil Alnico V Humbuckers, which certainly give the guitar a darker, warmer sound keeping in tone with its visual design. It has 2 tone knobs and 2 volume knobs, from my knowledge using the 250k potentiometers, and a 3 way selector which is placed above the neck pickup like on most LP’s.

The placement of the 3 way selector has always bothered me though, even if it’s in a typical location for a great number of guitars. Sometimes when strumming chords with a bit too much enthusiasm I accidentally hit the selector and switch from the bridge pickup to the neck one, completely throwing me off. This happens rarely nowadays, but I still wish the selector would be placed on the lower side of the guitar’s body, like on Stratocasters for example.

Meanwhile, I’d like to warn you to invest in a proper strap locking system. The stock strap pins are usually bad on any guitar, but many have ruined their LP through accidents. When I first played in a stand-up position, due to the guitar’s weight I assume, 1 of the pins slipped out but fortunately I managed to catch the guitar before it fell on the ground. Many people damaged their guitar in this way, so invest in Schaller, Fender or Dunlop strap locking systems to avoid any risks.

It’s also worth mentioning that replacing the guitars pickup with the SH4 was easy and straightforward and literally anyone can do it. There’s enough room to work with and it is extremely easy to follow the schematic. While performing this operation you might want to consider shielding the guitar’s inner cavity with copper or aluminum foil or tape, it helps to reduce any leftover hum or buzz, even though in my case this guitar didn’t buzz at all when plugged in.

Sound

I mainly play 80s hard rock, punk/ pop punk and progressive metal. This guitar certainly has the versatility to handle all of these genres but it clearly excels on the metal side. The stock Alnico’s along with this entire setup will give you a warm, dark, bassy sound. I find it perfect for anything involving heavy distortion, but for a cleaner sound I prefer the Stratocasters richness in mids and highs. There is no sign of random humming or feedback coming from the pickups. I did experience some heavy sympathetic vibrations (when you play a string and others vibrate along with it)… more than normal, and it turned out that the nut wasn’t cut and lubricated quite right and it caused this type of hum to be more pronounced than normal. With just a bit of filly and adding some graphite (from a pencil) the problem went away mostly. Some humming will exist though, all guitars have it to some degree and it is quite manageable. You can find ways to reduce it and learn to play cleaner in order to try to eliminate it as much as possible, but it’s actually barely noticeable. Back to the tone itself, as said before, these pickups favor the lower frequencies and will make your guitar sound very warm and alive. Natural and pinched harmonics sound great, while incorporating dead note chugging in your playing will also be fun with this kind of beefy sound. All of this I do using the bridge pickup, therefore I can’t really say much about the neck pickup because I never use it at all.

Moving on to the Seymour Duncan SH4 pickup, I must say it was a nice upgrade that gave me just what I wanted. I bought this pickup because of loving progressive metal, especially Tool’s guitarist Adam Jones which uses this SH4 and because I wanted more mid and high frequencies in my sound for this style. The warm quality of the guitar’s body certainly complements the SH4 which is a high output pickup with rich frequencies overall. It’s highly versatile for any style of music and now I get even richer pinched harmonics while my dead note chugs feel more aggressive. The sustain added by this pickup is simply phenomenal and it was certainly worth the upgrade.
I must warn you, however, if you want this pickup or any other upgrades for that matter and you only have a solid state practice amp, don’t bother. I noticed that with small solid state amps all guitars and pickups basically sound the same. A Gibson will sound like the cheapest Epiphone and so on. Invest in this pickup if you own a tube amp and if you want more mids and highs in your tone mix as well as simply a more powerful sound because the stock pickups focuses on the lows a lot more.

Guitar Setup and finish

I had to adjust my guitar’s intonation and action and most likely you will need to as well. They don’t all come the same, but in my case the action was extremely high while the intonation was somewhat off. Other than that I needed to also make a very small truss rod adjustment because of a slight fret buzz problem. Performing all of this can be done easily and gives you the chance to learn more about your guitar so don’t be afraid to learn how to set it up yourself. As for the finish, I find it to be of great quality, my guitar is 3 years old and while I banged it a couple of times, the paint still didn’t chip off. The only “problem” is that because of the matte finish, you will see every single dust particle and piece of dead skin on it. It is somewhat fun to see how much pick dust you can gather in the bridge area after a while. It’s easy to clean though, so it’s not a problem. Your fingerprints will also still like crazy to the pickguard. I have no idea why, but literally every print gets stuck to it… but again, it’s extremely easy to clean.

Reliability and Durability

This guitar is highly reliable and it’s great for any situation, including for live performances. If you aren’t a gym goer or an experienced Les Paul user, you might have some shoulder or back problems if you play for too long because it is still quite a heavy guitar. I have experienced no neck dive problems at all and the guitar seems solid enough to resist for quite a few years. The only weak part I find, as mentioned before, is the strap pins. They come out easily out of the guitar and if not careful you might drop it, so invest in some quality strap locks as soon as possible.

Overall Impression

I bought a great guitar at a perfect value and I turned it into my dream guitar. Even with the SH4 addition, this guitar still maintains some of its natural deep, dark sound and it’s simply perfect for the genres I play. I used to play my modified Fender Strat for Pop Punk and Punk before I modified this guitar, but nowadays the Fender is decorating my bedroom’s wall most of the time. This Les Paul certainly is everything I need and I simply love how it looks, feels and sounds. It’s my first, and the relationship is special, therefore I will certainly recommend it to any single beginner or pro on a budget looking for a good deal. Despite all the tiny issues I encountered and small adjustments I had to make over time, I am giving this guitar max rating because it’s a gem that needs only a bit of polishing in order to shine and you shouldn’t regret buying one.


iamqman12/07/2011

iamqman's review"Gothtastic"

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
This is a Goth guitar that if you were any metal band or really like dark style of music and you probably would lean towards this instrument. It has a very dark brew rich black satin finish on the body. So therefore it just comes across very Gothic and macabre looking. Probably the reason why they used to word Goth as part of the model name for this instrument. It just gives off this mystique of dark cynicism. The tone remains there if you are after a thick mahogany based tone. The finished doesn't hide any of the guitars natural sound and feel.

UTILIZATION


Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio Features:

Color: Satin Black finish
Body Wood: Mahogany
Neck Wood: Mahogany
Neck Profile: Set, 1-11/16" nut
Fingerboard: Ebony
Position Markers: "XII" inlay at 12th fret
Scale length: 24 3/4"
Number of Frets: 22
Pickups: 2 Alnico V Humbuckers
Controls: 2 volume, 2 tone
Pickup Switching: 3-way selector
Hardware: Black chrome
Bridge/Tailpiece: Stopbar

SOUNDS


This guitar has a nice warm thick tone especially when you use a nice medium to high gain amplifier. If you use a clean amplifier than this guitar really won't sound as good as it naturally can any high gain amp setting. The tone is very robust and driving. It's very easy to do a palm mute with a good thick rhythmic tone. This is a guitar that features Alnico V humbuckers to you get a really bright and brilliant sound from your pickups. Overall this is a cool guitar if you're really after that dark, mysterious Gothic look. Otherwise this is exactly same instrument as any other Epiphone LP, but it also comes in assortment of different colors and styles.

OVERALL OPINION


You can find his guitar for right around $350. That is a great price for someone is looking for an alternative or on a budget and doesn't want to pay the prices of a new Gibson Les Paul. Overall this is a cool guitar and I recommended to anyone who is looking for a sound that is particular to there rich mahogany Les Paul type tone.
nickname00909/01/2011

nickname009's review

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
I can't remember where this was made. I bought this guitar when the goth series first came out. I thought it was pretty badass! I think they were made in Korea at the time, but they may now have them produced in China.

Anyway, the features:

Mahogany body and neck, set neck with rosewood board.

No inlays except the awesome roman numeral XII.

Alnico pickups, 2 volume and 2 tones with a 3 way switch.

Satin black finish, with a tune-0-matic bridge.

Decent tuners.



UTILIZATION

Pretty much an LP all the way around. Set neck and the big huge bulge there so you can't really reach up unless you have gorilla hands, which I don't.

There are no contours as far as I remember, it was pretty traditional shape-wise, nothing fancy. The fretwork was quite good when I got this, didn't have to do anything. Setup was ok too and it stayed in tune since it's not a floyd!!

So it's average.

SOUNDS

Sounds huh? Well let's just say the first few days I got this, I changed the pickups right away to EMGs and made this guitar a real workable guitar afterwards.

I just couldn't stand the pickups, they were too shrill and fizzy sounding. There was no soul, no clarity, no definition. Just complete noise and the cleans were completely sterile and lifeless as well. For such a big and warm sounding guitar you'd expect some better sounds, but I guess this is where they sort of 'cut corners' on this guitar.

I hated the pickups, period. They were never good.

OVERALL OPINION

Overall, my korean LP was awesome. Finish was fine, setup was good, frets were good. Guitar looked great overall, super metal look! Great aesthetic! The pickups were horrible so you need to change them if you want it to sound any good. Though I as is, it's horrible sounding in my opinion and needs to be upgraded!

I actually prefer this goth LP version to the gibson one, not only for the price point but there's no creepy old guy pictures of gibson himself (i think) on the back of the headstock on these like there is on the gibson version.

Also it's a traditional LP shape. So if you're used to playing these types of guitars and love'em for how they are then this wouldn't disappoint you in any way.

So it's decent. It's a working man's guitar that needs upgrades.
tjon90106/29/2011

tjon901's review"Epiphone Les Paul with a metal image"

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
Gibson has a budget line of guitars made overseas named Epiphone. Epiphone makes guitars to pretty much the same specs as Gibsons except they are made overseas. The electronics are not as good but they are made from the species of wood but the wood may not be the best quality. Gibson has a line of Gothic series guitars which are all black and have a metal look so Epiphone makes a budget line of these guitars. This is pretty much a Les Paul studio with the black Goth paint job. They have the standard Les Paul setup with mahogany body with a maple top and a mahogany neck with a 22 fret rosewood fretboard. The fretboard has no inlays apart from a 12 roman numeral on the 12th fret. Two humbucking Alnico Classic pickups with dual volume and tone controls with a 3 way toggle switch pickup selector. The up position on the switch selects the neck pickup. The middle position on the pickup selector selects both pickups. And the down position on the pickup selector selects the bridge pickup. It has a tune-o-matic bridge and stop tail piece.

UTILIZATION

The Epiphone Goth Les Paul pretty much has the same advantages and disadvantages of any Les Paul. If you are use to modern guitars with thin necks the Les Paul neck will be very big for you. The 60s profile neck that this guitar has is slightly slimmer than the huge Gibson necks they use to use but it is still big compared to something like an Ibanez or Jackson. I would have preferred an ebony fretboard for a better feel and it would match the metal motif of the guitar better. Because of the set neck design there is a large neck tenon and joint. This can make the upper frets hard for some people to reach because the body essentially joins the neck at the 17th fret. After the 17th fret you are reaching around the body to get to the frets. The tuning stability is good because there is no tremolo.

SOUNDS

The most likely weak spot on any budget guitar is the pickups. The pickups Epiphone uses are not that great. They are pretty muddy and dead. You do not get much attack with these pickups. Since these pickups do not have much definition the neck position can get really muddy. With a high gain amp the sound might get muddy due to the lack of definition. With some types of music these pickups are great. If you want a bluesy sound these pickups will do really good and you will be able to get a smooth tone out of them. With a pickup swap this guitar can sound great so I would recommend to anyone who has one of these Epiphones to try it out with some after market pickups. Since this is supposed to be a metal guitar I wonder why they dont put hotter pickups in it. Some other Epiphones come with EMG's and I would strongly recommend those pickups for metal over these pickups.

OVERALL OPINION

Some smaller foreign companies are exceeding the quality of Epiphone nowadays for the same price. But being Epiphone it is like buying the official copy so its not like you are hurting the company. There are peices on this guitar that should be upgraded like the pickups but once you do that you have a solid metal Les Paul.
MGR/Anonymous09/10/2003

MGR/Anonymous's review"Epiphone Les Paul Goth"

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
Bought this by mail order from Peter Cooks guitar world, brand new for £250. I would def recommend them - cheap, polite and fast delivery.

The thing I love most about this is its visual appeal - a matt black finish and all black hardware - ooh baby!!! The single VII inlay at the 12th give it a touch of class and the cross on the headstock is a bit gimmicky but cool nonetheless. Playing - clean, it's surprisingly good and not metally at all, a really good 'Hero of the Day' sound. Turn the overdrive switch on and it can sound fantastic if your settings and knobs are in the right place. I like it best on pure treble giving it a real AC/DC like sound with chords and a really good Metallica mute effect.

The worst thing is the strap handles, i'm constatly re-screwing the left and one so i'll need to get it replaced. I find it hard to get a good sound playing it heavy on the rhythm swicth. It's also quite thin and light (lighter than a strat) which does make it lose a bit of les paulness if you know what i mean. It can also get very dusty especially in the alcinos. Apart from that its top notch.

finish - excellent
set neck - better than screw on
fret board - surprisingly fast


Quite simply, for the money, you wont get a better guitar, but if your willing to spend another £50-£100, I'd go for a standard or a black beauty.

This review was originally published on http://www.musicgearreview.com
fanchy09/29/2013

fanchy's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)" OK to start ..."

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
See other reviews for caractéristiques.Je only wonder if the body is really mahogany?

UTILIZATION

Nice round, very round. against by limited access to acute (it's still a LP)
on the other hand at equilibrium there better (strat privilligier the forms if you like to play sitting down!)

SOUNDS

With this guitar I play metal (and stoner) wholesale tie (OD or two tones below). Fixed bridge OK it is good tuning.
It sounds rather well in his clear, against distortion in it disappointed me! its too rough.

OVERALL OPINION

I use less than my other guitars. since I am acquiring a MH400NT LTD who stoned at any point of view.
I have since redo the paint (matt black not tiennait well, stripes everywhere traces of sweat and POCS decision beyond me and I'm tired of the color. I do paint in white snow with a bodybuilder and I installed an EMG 81 and 85 pickups kit. And there it a hit!

I think I actually plucked in the new buying. on the other hand in Cygnus (around 150 €) to start it can do! She has a look that is sure, it complains or not.

I advise to change the pickups (EMG of the active metal, SH2/SH4 or SD for the Heavy / blues.
alexicefire09/21/2013

alexicefire's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)" excellent guitar"

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
Epiphone Les Paul Studio Gothic, Mahogany Body, set in Mahogany Neck, Rosewood Fretboard, 2 Humbuckers, black / chrome Hardware, Killswitch Thomann Poti, Color: Pitch Black

UTILIZATION

It has a nice handle, it is not very heavy, you can easily access the latest freight and sound is amazing

SOUNDS

This is a versatile guitar you can play blues rock and even heavy metal is excellent in is the sound especially with a good amplifier

OVERALL OPINION

I use this guitar for 1 year and I tried many guitars before but it did not give me what I wanted but with the Epiphone les paul studio I found my happiness and it is not too expensive plus she is pro quality
belzeb06/05/2008

belzeb's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
Made in China
Coprs in "Mahogany", 22 frets, two humbucker pickups alnico classic three position
Type fixed bridge
2 volume buttons and 2 tone (one per mic)
Channel tuning fork relatively short (24.75) but not very thick domed (closer to the U as D)

UTILIZATION

The handle is a real pleasure. I'm used to handle Ibanez RG and it does not look like dutout that. The handle is short, not very wide, thick and rather flat. Normally I should not enjoy, but it's really nice. Especially since it's fair, which is unusual for an entry level guitar. Also, what is very significant for someone who will start with this guitar, the factory setting is good.

Access to acute is not great. The heel of the neck is rather annoying and the fine is only 22 boxes. So for budding shreders is not what is best.

It is a very light guitar, which is cool for those who like to play standing. The weight and price makes it the beautiful wood used to make me doubt it is true mahogany ... but it is a good guitar to € 250!

The small body and form are not perfect les paul to play sitting ...

Also, have a volume and tone by microphones is rather pleasant. We can prepare two different sounds by playing with the switch positions without having to fiddle with the knobs.

SOUNDS

For the sound, alnico mircos are correct. The pickups in bridge distortion is not bad, relatively accurate, the harmonics come out very well. The pickups handle distortion is downright filthy ... ca drool, it's rough, short, ugly dutout! For clean sounds it's really not transcendental ... but hey, you can do with. The sound in general is rather dynamic in this price range. Afterwards, I had no opportunity to play in a group with, but I have a feeling that the sounds coming out of this guitar is pretty dug in the midrange, which will not get out of the mix group ... But hey, I'm looking for the little beast here!

I think this guitar is frankly typical metal: distortion sounds are quite nice and clear but the crunch is not beautiful. And frankly, the neck pickup is useless!

OVERALL OPINION

I do not own this guitar but I play a lot on that of a friend when I get the chance.
This is a good instrument for beginners, and the comfort of games makes it a good tool.

Frankly the sight of all the low end that I had the opportunity to test, this guitar is probably one of the best, even better than some schecter or ibanez are worth twice price.
Nikel finish is truly an instrument of this price.
And the look is, to my taste, really nice!

If one day I wanted to pay me a six string cheap and cheerful, I think I'll take that!
Lopsided02/10/2007

Lopsided's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
Korean, 22 frets, two humbuckers made in epiphone (that means what that means), Les Paul style acastillage (tune-o-matic, stop bar ...)
Volume and tone with microphone, a three-position switch.
Channel rather pleasant, even friendly enough. Well we will not have fun the last 3 squatter huts but otherwise it does.
It is rather light for a Les Paul. Well balanced with a good strap ...
The mechanical rather nazes and the plastic nut is not really first choice.
The electronics are low-end to low end, must pay attention!

UTILIZATION

As I just said (I have trouble with me ...), opinion sections of the handle is quite nice, is comfortable in hand, it is pleasant enough on that side.
Access to acute is worthy of a Les Paul, what about other ...
It is rather thin and light for a Les Paul, very nice to play. On this side there they did a good job at Epiphone.
However, its level is still not quite that ... But ergonomics is very good.

SOUNDS

It was my first guitar at the time, I played a little bit of everything ...
I played with a Roland Cube 30, and sometimes I just plugged a lamp for fun.
In his clear, micro defend themselves well, nothing to say. Side neck pickup, it sounds soft and round, it's really nice. For the bridge pickup, however, it sounds very slamming, but it is playable with the tone.
on the other hand, when it goes into distortion, low hurts: the pickups are rough, it is formless, ugly, it's drooling like melted butter ... At the limit it goes in the mid-scooped distortion ultra to Recto, but once you balance a little medium is Hiroshima.
In addition, microphones Feedback to every turn as soon as the volume is substantial.
Me, it amuses me becaufe it gives me a good basis for making noise (the noise j'adôôôôôre), but it still makes it unusable in rehearsal or live ...
So 10 for clear sound, 0 for the distortion, and we will raise the bill for Larsen amuse me.

OVERALL OPINION

It's been over a year I have now.
I like nice ergonomics, however all the hardware and electronics is to replace, and if you make a gaffe so slightly to the quality, it is almost as expensive as the guitar ... That's what made me give up elsewhere.
Now she serves as a scraper to make noise, I screwed up a mic strata bridge, and strange it was completely unbalanced the guitar! (I changed the strap at the same time, it can play.) I use it to make the feedback, so I use a stick or battery as I pass between the strings and the handle (inside Sonic Youth, uh).
Level quality / price ratio, it can be argued in German, but not in France, it must be my biggest regret this: to have bought in France.
Before buying it, I tried another model Epiphone, a signature I can not remember which, I let go because he y'avait large flames painted on it, it was a bit "too much" for me.
With experience, I do not redeem one, obviously. It's a good guitar to start, and if we take care it can be continually upgrade and finish with a good scratch, but if you have some experience and greater resources, you need to type elsewhere.
Ah, so she went through a period of "pulling rope ultra heavy" for tuning two-tone below or in the vicinity, and it has not done well at all to the handle, going over on it s normal ties' is arranged.

Basically, to summarize, it is a good guitar for beginners, but it quickly shows its flaws, and if you do not have the patience to upgrade regularly, it may not be worth it ... See for yourself. I still had a great time over Christmas to take me for Gallagher, Billy Corgan and Kim Thayil. Now she sleeps on a stand ...
No_Brain_No_Pain01/09/2007

No_Brain_No_Pain's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)

Epiphone Goth Les Paul Studio
_Fabriquée In Korea, Luter is good even with a very high price not necessarily like a lot of epiphone
_Manche 22 frets with 2 humbuckers (Alnico V) with 3-way selector position, what a les paul ...
_Chevalet Fixed, it also exists in version with Floyd but hey, it's already very unattractive on a les paul, it adds extra weight and the quality leaves something to be desired
_Selecteur Pickups 3-way and the classic 2 volume controls (one for each pickup) and Tone 2 (ditto), which already offers a lot of possibiltées to find her well as potentiometers are not great (that epiphone is still, not a gibson c).

UTILIZATION

_Manche Very nice to play both solo and rhythm that comfortable, no risk of cramps =)
_Bah Access to the acute it is what it is, we like it or not, yes it is not great but sufficient. it must be time to get used to straighten the fingers
_A Les paul has always been heavy, more or less depending on the models, without being over the top. This model remains is lighter compared to a standard or a classic or else many models by the fact that his body is slightly thinner than the other
_on Easily find a good sound as clear that in full, just play around with the volume pots

SOUNDS

_I Play a lot of metallica and especially suited. It's the same for everything else, it is an instrument which I find quite versatile, I play also the black sabbath, the gun's & roses, megadeth, dio, iron maiden etc ... and I managed to find a sound correct for each style without great Difficulty
_I Played on a Marshall Lead 100 MOSFET coupled with an Ibanez TS9 and a Boss MT-2 (Metal Zone)
_The Clear sound is good, full of roundness and warmth, it is clear that this is not a gibson but its price is ca quite acceptable. The overdrive sound is not too bad although a little too bold when the saturation is too high, then opt for a change of microphones as pickups are original time but quickly realized their limitations

OVERALL OPINION

_I Played with for 1 ½ years now, ordered on the internet without ever having played with the screen, and frankly I'm not disappointed to have made this purchase
_J'aime Much its look with his painting black matte complexion loses most places, and then solicited his graduation at 12th fret
_J'avais Tried a few guitars before buying that were in roughly the same price range without being really attractive and one day I came across this little gothic les paul on the internet and I cracked
_I Have paid € 330 with shipping and a guitar like this I would say the price / quality ratio is pretty good
_I Would do this choice, of course, I do not intend to part with it any time soon, she will follow me all the way =)