All user reviews of 3/5 for the TC Electronic G-System

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SOUND QUALITY

I just attended a concert drums trio / bass / voice whose bassist, playing his old Fender Jazzbass almost like a guitar, playing on stack with head Hartke HA 3500 Hartke cabinets and two cones Alus a 4x10 and 1x15, with a G System upstream to Pramp single / multi-effects. Hartke head and led equalizer showed a correction slightly hollow on the mids, nothing more, everything else just nearly noon.
Slightly lower recovery via DI faade, but so face the amp (+/- 3m, tiny room requires), I could apprcier relatively as it should sound of this lment.

In terms of saturation, natural compression of the lamps on the attack seems mimics fairly well, with a lot of "soft" clean sounds seemed honntes. the effects utiliss number by bassist in question also seem good quality. One has the impression of having to make a multi srieux effect without hsiter.

BUT: what lack of heat ... The saturations, which may possibly be compelling live recording, still shy in harmonics, even when the sound is overall quite cold ... Knowing quite well the heads Hartke HA 3500, I have always found the sound a bit steep, but I think the record would Gnral Either way better if Pramp / multi FX was more "hot" and "living" , heard by the rendering is when even fairly flat.

NOTICE GLOBAL

I do not know if this advice will much since there is no question of a test, but a judgment I would like to focus on an amp that I had in the ears for an hour , live. It is often not objective when it comes to acqurir the stuff, I think that such a decline can be interesting.

The sound is good for the digital, but still a little too flat and cold. To be honest, I t frustrated by saturations, that reminds me of the less prestigious brands modlisations, that I have always sulking.

I would have loved to perform the test with the same stack and even a prampli lamps + G System multi effects.

No editing on PC, too bad for something of this type
Extremely comprehensive,

UTILIZATION

Product extremely complicated, so many parameters, it is both well to cover all possibilities but tedious to master the craft.
The manual is comprehensive but does not give much advice to use!

SOUND QUALITY

While effective, the effects and management of other pedals, loop, setting levels, the parameters of each effect are legion.

OVERALL OPINION

The big problem is a loss of momentum, even without using any effects. I tried Upstream and in the loop of the amp, no solution, I have not managed to correct this loss with the integrated equalizer, nor with the level controls .... Is it me, Is this the device? it is true that the latest models have been modified, but in any case I sold it immediately back to individual pedals ...

Compressor
flanger
phaser
chorus
wha
pitch
noise
reverb
delay
Unfortunately it's all numrique.

UTILIZATION

Configuration gnrale Is it easy?
Yes and no, must bone up the user manual.
yes, the sound edition easy.
Manuel trs well.

SOUND QUALITY

Lc'est then the black point of the multi, the effects are effective?
yes, at the rglages nombrux and Settings, but the sound effects is not extra.
reverb and delay are fantastic for against (the only 2 good effect I think on this machine)
The compressor is not really, but then pretty bad compared some good size compressor pedals.
The wha is really bad (just to dpanner).
Phaser cold, it is not as warm for 2 or rather in 1400.
Flanger, one of the worst are to me that given t heard.
Chorus properly without more, pure trs, trs possdant neutral but no personality and not hot at all, far-references of the CATEGORY.
Pitch, it's going, pretty decent but not worth a real Whammy especially all Premire.
Harmonizers not intelligent, it is unacceptable for the price while the G-Force possde home for 500 euros less.
(Available in the last update)

OVERALL OPINION

I use it for a year.
What I like most, the look, quality of manufacture and the cot for scne practice, being able to branch of loop pedals. (The power supply built on the b pedals are used to duck anything because maximun dvelopp 200 mA is compltement idiot, so no one except for pedals, keep your batteries).
I also like the connection trs well think it is the only multi that can allow such flexibility.
Being able to change the channel of the amp as long as the tip of the jack is in Footswitsh 6.35. (If not grill it, the less tinkering) s too, it's stupid why not prvu some tip Footswitsh "DIN"
What I like least is the "fool" quality effects especially for that kind of money, do not want the comparison with trs good analog pedals, from the delay and rverbe that sounds fabulous.
I like the least accumulation of conversion cascade A / D and D / A and re N / A ETA / N and re re A / D and D / A style mthode 4 cables, which only "d grade "signal.
Better to place it in the loop of the amp to avoid leaving too many converts no longer use the effects of prior pramp compressor, and possibly pitch wha
Given the amount of the machine, it is Consat is absolutely not transparent again especially with regard to price.
TC has obviously optimized for the multi praticitla FLEXIBILITY and versatility of scne dtriment but unfortunately the sound quality.
Apart from the delay and I rverbes RPET, other effects are trs trs see how the same carrment zero flanger, compressor, phaser, and wha. (That's a lot and believe me ! I prfr otherwise)
Good because the wind is nonexistent, but the G-System is not transparent, however.
A report that they could have included an automatic volume pedals over an expression, other brands offer good ...
This would avoid a lot of bug as well and even the possibility to plant a chip in a uptate. (See forum)
If c'tait again, it would not, it's a bit of window dressing the G-System.
Way too much for sound quality only average.
I bought it more convenient for his cot for sound quality.

- What are the effects or types of effects available?

- Filters (resonance, wha-wha, formants)
- Compressor
- Gate 1
- 1 EQ
- 4 insert loops for external pedals.
- 1 loop insert a clean preamp (rack conbo or head)
- 1 Bloc modulation (chorus, flanger, phaser, tremolo, vibrato, detune, panner)
- 1 Bloc pitch (Shifter, Octave, Whammy, detune)
- 1 Bloc Delays (single, dual, ping pong, dynamic, reverse)
- 1 Bloc reverbs (spring, hall, room, plate)

- What technology is used?

Digital.

- Are they edited? Via an editor Mac / PC?

Yes.

- What is the connection? (Audio / MIDI)

- Input.
- Output L and R
- Output S / PDIF.
- An expression pedal input.
- A volume pedal input.
- 9V power supply 4 (4x50 mA) to power the pedals.
- 2 CHANNELS relay to drive the amp.
- 1 USB port for updates.
-5 Buckles: 4 (pre-preamp and standard) to accommodate pedals and a loop to insert a pre-amp (rack, combo or head).

-100 Factory preset, 200 user presets can be stored
MIDI control MIDI devices.

No less!!

- Is this a rack or rack-mount model?

Yes and no, really well done for elsewhere (see instructions).

UTILIZATION

- The general configuration is it simple?

Yes to that already fiddling with multi effects, it is not rocket science, just be careful with different level settings (guitar / O loops, input / output preamp / power amp input).
- Publishing of sound effects or is it easy?

Here too, for those who used the effects and their parameters, nothing complicated, for cons I can imagine that for the "newcomers" from a set of pedals, is enough to tear hair with the menus and sub menus, obviously for them it is not plug'n'play.

- The manual is clear and sufficient? ...

Yes, everything is explained, initially it should even be your favorite book, story of what led to the ergonomics of the machine.

SOUND QUALITY

Well, it must be admitted that the concept is great, the effects available for guitar are present except disto.Et so much the better for me that does only that the OD of my amps and some good analog pedals dedicated to overdrive / distortion that make it anyway better than any computer simulation in fashion.
The G-System is a true multi-effects, simulation without invading the most current multi effects, and that, it was missing.
One can easily change the channel on his amp while activating a chorus pedal housed in a loop and activate the delay of the G-System, and the pressure of one foot.
Awesome right?
And finished ground loops, breath, hum, ground loops, the transformers and jacks lurking.
So a big thumbs up for this concept "while a" unique (for now).
Also, I found this great little rig next organizer.
The following remarks are completely personal and subjective, of course.
- Effects are they effective, responsive and realistic enough?

Yes, the effects are effective, we can not say otherwise, but overall I'm disappointed, it did not change one iota from a G-Force yet 10 years old.
10 years apart and no bonus multi sound is noticeable despite technological change.
The intrinsic quality advanced effects do not at all that time, probably using TC and again the same algorithms "age" or the conccurents to making progress.
It's simple in the long run, I no longer use the compressor or the modulations and even less wha wha G-System.
The compressor of the G-System has been replaced by Keeley (more efficient), the chorus (depending on the desires) by Boss CE-2/DC-3 or an old TC SCF.
I replaced the phases of the G-system with a MXR Phase 90 or Boss PH-1.
As for the wha, a Fulltone Clyde has replaced that of the G-System.
I insert these pedals (except wha) provided for in the loop, because the modulations of the G-System does not make the weight for those old pedals in his "change over time" warm and alive.

What is the difference between a grain of G_System phaser and an old PH-1 !!... I always come back no, ca may well be a Boss, what is more ... old, yet it sounds really better.
The flanger also are not very beautiful, cold, without grain, without independent, neutral.
Over time I used only the reverb and delay of the G-System.
The delay is impeccable them, no complaints, really good, the reverb is not bad but that of my old Lexicon (MPX-1) was more beautiful, rounder, softer and more natural, less "sharp", less "incisive ".

The chorus is okay once properly adjusted but not exeptional, the also have tested extensively the effect of a multi party Boss GT-8, except for delays and reverbs that sound better in TC, it comes with wicked G System-to three times cheaper and I would venture to say that the modulations of the Boss GT-8 are better quality than the G-System is on in any case for phaser and flanger although for Boss chorus grain is here (we like it or not) at least the chorus Boss has a personality, a "signature" sound that the TC (grain-free in fact) does not have.
So big disappointment for me in terms of noise, and parameter settings can improve the situation but do not provide a miracle solution to the grain base, or rather the lack of grain should I say.
The overall imaging is often cold and very "clinical", with surgical precision, it seems that the effects are not "soul."

OVERALL OPINION

- How long have you use it?

Just over two years now.

- What is so special that you like best?

-His look.
-Robustness.
-Sa connections.
-Its possibilities.
-Flexibility
Its part-organizer rig.
Quality of delays.
-A brilliant concept.

What is so special that you like the least?

No true-bypass
-Blocks effect pre digital preamp.
DSP-bypass not fully transparent.
-Inability to move the blocks or effects we see fit, we must
limited to serial, semi / / and / / (G-Force permitted 10 years ago and good
number of multi cheaper).
-Poor overall quality of most of the effects (compared to the original price of the machine).
Phaser and flanger them awful.

- Have you tried many other models before buying it?

I owned a Intellifex, a G-Force, an MPX-1, the familiar GT-8/Pro and has some good pedals.

- How would you rate the quality / price?

Okay on occasion but somewhat exaggerated neuf.Si On the basis of that point of view of quality effects, it is three times too expensive.
The look, robustness and overall concept are very professional but the intrinsic quality of the effects is unworthy of the price of the machine.

If only the quality of the effects were at the height of the rest, the pedal would have been the ultimate pedal.
The concept of the G-System has been the priority of TC which is not a bad thing either in the short term, but hoping that their next priority for any future pedal, essentially focused on the quality of the effects, algorithms in order to renew their "age" that over time, are no longer up to be labeled "high end".

- With experience, you do again this choice?
Yes, when the concept, not when the overall quality effects.

All-digital technology, but can manage the pedals or preamps analog feeds it with 9v adapter (and it works)
All effects (almost) are arranged, even rare events, like the formants.
Dual processor patch changes so gentle, very pleasant, very professional.
The tap tempo controls all the effects you want it to manage, so you can have the same preset auto wah to a triplet of black, a delay to quaver and tremolo to a dotted quarter (it's just a bad example , you get the idea intended, do not you?)
In addition, the tap-tempo does not take into account the two last shots, as is often the custom, but the last 10 taps (or 8, 5 ,...) This results in a terrible efficiency find the tempo, because it is the average of your shots. When you change tempo, all effects that are not on a "ignore" the tap tempo snap to the new tempo, each effect according to the rhythmic value that you assigned. As a result, the expression pedal (optional) becomes superfluous.
A bad point for the very light buzz generated by the loops (for the price, it sucks a bit!)
Otherwise, this pedal is very sturdy, I have shot with and he never let go.

UTILIZATION

Oddly, I prefer a manual a little less "light" ...
But it's not that complicated, it is sometimes well thought out for players who have not done extensive studies of sound engineer. Ex: some effects such as compressors, chorus and others are arranged version is semi-pre-set or in "advanced", that is to say with a variety of settings.
The only problem I have with the g-system is that the loops are blowing a bit, as soon as you plug a pedal into it, even if the loop is not open! (And I know I've spoken, But it has to know is that TC & remedied, dammit!)

Egonomie génialissime well thought out and executed

SOUND QUALITY

The overall sound is slightly altered, a bit "cloudy" without being disagreeable, and there is a small loss of momentum which is unfortunate given the price of the machine!

The delays are excellent, and the tremolo Octaver do their job, the phasor correct, the factory reverb a little cold but with the passing of time, we arrive at very very pretty things. The whas can troubleshoot the chorus is rather disappointing but not awful either, but I'm the type to put the chorus only when it is exceptional, and it's far from the case. on the other hand there are ways to get very nice chorus effect with the detune (in "pitch" if I remember correctly)

Digress and response to those who put 1 / 10 while admitting that it remains one of the best multi-effects on the market: let's not forget this: G THE SYSTEM IS A MULTI-EFFECTS, size very reasonable that! Obviously qques analog pedals with hand-picked with a rack or as big as a refrigerator Gilmour way, you'll sound warmer. But we must be honest and note the system G with respect to the category to which it belongs, namely multi-effects & Organizing small rig for musicians who want flexibility on stage without breaking the vertebrae. So yes, it's still a compromise, less warm than the very good pedal, but still not bad
Put 1 or 2 / 10 as noted in sound quality this unit is intellectual dishonesty! As for the argument "for the price, no mercy," I note that the ratio Q / Price is noted in the overall opinion. Sound quality in the section, there ... sound quality, yes!
Mud and flute, what! Dare I add, damn it!

In summary, the effects are varied and of a quality that ranges from high-end and some of them mean to others.

OVERALL OPINION

Used for 2 years and a half and over a hundred concerts and reweighed, I find that this multi-effect has an interesting connection between sound quality / size / functionality (turn "organizer rig" that I did not insist ) but I finally tired of his sound reproduction "can do better" and edit a lot of presets for each song, and went back to my tap dancing on-board analog pedal.

Quality / price ratio, given the poor sound quality of certain effects.

With experience, I will stick to my first impression of the day when I had tried in the store, found him "cold" and was left without buying it (I had finally bought later, after a concert where I had had enough of playing Fred Astaire). Nonetheless, it made me proud to service many small and large stages. So bye bye Mr G, and no hard feelings!

Multi effects box/floor controller...that lets you use 9 build in effects simultaneously. Has 4 external loops with 9 volt power supply to use your own stomp boxes with it. And an insert loop for easy integration with amps with effects loops or pre/power amp set-ups with the 4 cable method.
Has the typical effects we've all come to expect like delay, verb, modulation, pitch, compression, filter, etc...
Has no overdrive effects. The only way to get a modulated delay is by using delay into chorus. Routing of effects are good, as in serial, parallel options. It's no Axe-Fx or Eventide H8000 in terms of routing but for it's price point it does a fine job.


UTILIZATION

I used it with 4 cable method and to relay switch between heads and channels of heads.

Guitar into the G-system, Insert loop sent to the amp, amp's effects loop back to the G-system, and its putout to the head's effects return jack. This way the compressor, modulation type effects as well as my external stomp boxes in the G-system's loops are in front of the amp, the delay, pitch, and reverb after the amp's pre-amp.
The G-systems relay switch is plugged into the amp's channel switching jack with one of the G-system's switches assigned to it. This way I can not only switch the channels of my amp, I can also have my preset where the amp's cannel is included. As in...a preset with the amps channel 1 and an external overdrive pedal, delay and reverb, and the next has amp channel B, a pitch shifter and so on....
Also the G-system gives you a boost which technically isn't a boost. The concept is the overall level gets reduced by whatever decibel amount you chose and when you need a boost you basically stomp on the switch and have unity gain....boosting your signal by what you previously cut it.

SOUND QUALITY

The effects were fine, I really like the pitch shifter actually preferred it to my Eventide Eclipse. The delays and verbs didn't do it for me. Compressor was nice, filter were also not my thing.


OVERALL OPINION

I loved the convenience and integration of the G system it is very well thought out, but ultimately I ended up rack mounting its brains and using it as a floor controller. And when I went back to racks I realized that an Eventide Eclipse and external midi controller worked much better for me, and ultimately the Fractal Axe-Fx retired both set-ups for me.

I guess my point is...if you set-up is a few stomp boxes and a channel switching amp this is a great way to make for less tap dancing during songs, but when you start extending the amount of gear you carry dedicated units are a better way to approach this.