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Apple Logic Pro X Review - The Case Against X
The time has finally come for the new Logic Pro version. It was almost four years without a major update, many were doubtful that it might ever see the light of day and even ventured it would disappear. The software has arrived. Should we be happy or not? Here are some answers.
livewidmusic's review""Logic Pro X, an end to Logic ?""
With a download size of 828MB directly from the Appstore and an extra 35GB of additional instruments, plugins and loops, this "64-bit only" Logic X runs on smoothly from OS X 10.8.4 or upwards with a minimum of 4GB RAM. Logic X supports 255 audio, software instrument and auxiliary channels with unlimited number of midi tracks, with 15 plugin slots and 8 effects send slots for each channel strip.
Since I have given a quick positive introduction to this new version of Logic (for those who are new to Logic X), having used Logic Pro 9 for the past 6 years, I have to sadly say that Logic X is a clear disappointment for Logic Users. The reason why I am mentioning only "Logic users" is because I am pretty sure Logic X's initial customers/clients would be previous owners of Logic 9 or earlier. Being one among them and seeing other users around me, first and foremost, the initial setup does not include a .DMG file, rather, the installation and download process is done directly via the Apple Appstore. The Initial install takes around 2GB space on the system and then another additional 35GB content needs to be downloaded (this will take time but you can resume your work with Logic X minimising the download window) to get Logic X in its full shape.
The Manual is clear by its own terms. The Key commands have changed for certain functions, which is very irritating for professional musicians and producers. When you call it a new version, you never expect the key commands to change. This takes time off from people and lead to confusion. Sadly, I got used to the new key commands, even though I later started using the old Logic 9 key commands on Logic X, as it was not working and slowed me at times.
Logic X being 64-bit supports only 64bit audio plugins and virtual instruments. Another Headache. Opening Logic 9 sessions (Logic X supports sessions from Logic 5 and upwards) on Logic X might look very cool. But when you start playing the session, you face errors and pops. Audio regions are sometimes mis-placed. 32bit plugins seems to work with the Logic's built in audio bridge for 32bit to 64bit. But this is only for certain plugins, and there it is finally - "Your first Crash" . The new "Auto save" feature is a great help. But I don't think anybody would want to keep re-visiting previous auto-backup save sessions every 5 minutes?
The basic and general functions are almost similar to previous versions. The Arrange window seems to have certain locational variations otherwise Logic X looks quite compact and sleek with a taste of Garageband software here and there. Everything seems to work and function faster when compared to previous versions of Logic. For first time Logic X users,
you will definitely enjoy the look and design of it.
Previously I was using OS X 10.7 (Lion) with Logic Pro 9. Though the Lion OS itself was a disaster to my working environment, after clearing all the hurdles and successfully solving the compatibility issues, I continued my work on OS X Lion version itself even after the Mountain Lion had arrived. Usually there is a say "If something works for you, don't update". I should have listened to this advice when I moved to Mountain Lion (I like things to be updated always). The sole reason for quickly moving onto Mountain Lion was Logic X, as it only supports from OS X 10.8 onwards.
At the moment, Logic X 10.0.7 runs on my 8 GB, 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo, Mavericks (10.9) system. Its been 1 complete year after getting Logic X and so far, other than constant crashing and certain sessional related defects, that me and many of my friends have still not found answers for, Logic X runs seamlessly faster and is very powerful in handling complicated and hybrid sessions. The Audio engine is updated. The usage levels of the RAM and the processing speed of plugins are slightly lesser and faster respectively.
After switching to Logic X, the performance I receive is sometimes noteworthy but most of the time, it gives me only issues. Let us put it this way. The more size and larger the session is, the more amount of problems occur. With a lot of newly added features, notably like the "Flex Pitch", "Track Stacks", "Drum Kit Designer", "Retro Synth" and the "Smart Controls", Logic X attracts many of us and gets along easily with these problems mentioned earlier.
The "Flex Pitch" as you would have already understood is a new addition to the flexing options. Now you get to flex any audio signal inside your session. Though I would say Logic X does a good job with flexing (This looks almost like Melodyne to me but not that accurate though), it is not stable at times. With a large audio file, for e.g., 5-10 minute long file takes up-to 5-10 minute itself for processing before one could start flexing. To avoid this situation I usually slice the audio regions and put them onto a separate track just for flexing purposes. Here is where the "Crash" sometimes arrives. When such a large file is duplicated, Logic X starts to become a child by itself and panics. The playback stops abruptly at many times when the Flex option is active. As you all might be wondering now if this could be my system configuration's issue, which I also though initially, I was wrong when I found out that many users encounter the same problem. I was forced to flex the audio signals on a separate session or via another program/software.
"Track Stacks" is awesome! This was something I was looking forward to earlier itself. To have a folder within the arrange session, and to control all the instruments with just one slider was a relief, especially for Logic users. Though this is possible by just bussing all your wanted tracks to an auxiliary channel, here, Logic X provides you an instant time saver. Select all the tracks, right click and enable track stack, and all the tracks become a single folder with one slider. Don't get confused. This is not the Folder feature we had up-to Logic 9, where the tracks hide themselves inside another separate window.
The "Drum Kit Designer" is attractive but sometimes rules over us giving us more than what we ask. With several custom preset - customisable drum kit designs, this is an easy solution for Producers. With some industry leading drummers around the world, Logic X has incorporated their involvement in the playing and groove styles giving you a virtual drummer with its own mix setup. Feel free to tweak the settings. If you have a verse - chorus - verse structure for your song, the drum kit designer immediately recognises this and gives you a series of drum patterns accordingly.
The "Retro Synth" is something I loved. A completely new re-touched collection analog and dirty synths have arrived. The settings are quite similar to every other synth based instruments.
"Smart Control" is a completely new feature and very much well-thought insertion. It allows you to globally control all the instrument plugin's basic function knobs - all in one - window. This is completely helpful, as you do not need to individually go over each instrument to tweak the settings on a general level.
1) 64bit - More faster and powerful
2) Re-designed Guitar and Bass Amps
3) Smart Control
4) Automation can now be copied and pasted with the Marquee tool
5) Compression level can now be monitored on the channel strip without opening the plugin
6) Session exporting is now compatible for more devices and applications
8) The new Arpeggiator - Midi plugin is absolutely innovative
9) Re-designed EQ
10) "Logic Remote" allows you to control the session via an iPad
11) Track Stacks makes the sessions tidy and gives a much better workflow to the user
1) Constant and unexpected crashes at the middle of sessions.
2) Last saved sessions deliver audio cross fade-pops at times.
3) Flex Pitch is good but does more bad
4) 32 bit only plugins - Good bye, or use 3rd party applications like SoundRadix to get them on Logic X. Re-starting the AU manager on any previous Logic Pro and then opening Logic X sometimes solve this issue.
5) No Environment window anymore
6) Slicing, editing and aligning regions sometimes gets snapped onto wrong time-lines, even though "snap to absolute/relative grid' is enabled.
7) The mouse pointer is un-recognised on the region window if you need to click on an empty space. Now you are forced to click on the play-head time line.
For $199.99, Logic X is a satisfactory - painful welcome into your life. I have not noticed any difference in the quality of sound when compared with previous versions of Logic. The production and the outcomes are the same in terms of both sonic quality and sound.
Being a die-hard Logic user for several years now, I would have anyways purchased the Logic X - be it good or bad (This is the selling point, as a previous user of a software, especially like Logic, is always naturally excited to experience the latest update of it). But now, to be frank, I don't use Logic X for professional dead-line based projects, keeping in mind some of the scares on my client's face and mine earlier, while using Logic X, I have finally moved back to Logic 9 for constant work-flows, keeping Logic X only as a back-up. and for experimental projects.
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Maxidingue's review (This content has been automatically translated from French)" Bad .........."
Easy installation (see above), for the bonus bundle I have not found??
Configuration: GarageBand, ugly, it seeks its bearings, it does a little personal configuration task bar and it disappears suddenly without understanding brief ... already bugs in the first use .... and after 4 years of development (the time it took Apple to move from 9 to X)
Incompatibility, YES, the 32 bits of my old Powercore plugs are not recognized + some software
No manual paper. Using a well thought out though. The mouse is passed over an item and it will display a small window with the top left
That said, I'm looking for the charging indicator CPU and HD who was present at the first startup and disappeared from the task bar and .......... Found
I QuadraCore i5 iMac running OSX 10.8.3, 8MB RAM RME Fireface 800 a card and was already a bit like it "frolle" the minimum limit. The Bundle Spectrasonics (Omnisphere, Trillian, Stylus) + Kontakt, it looks like it's already a lot to him
I did not have this problem with the 9 V
My big worry is when I created my MIDI tracks to external synths Hardware (Minitaur, TR-Rack, Mininova and microKorg) ........ there it merdouille sec. As soon as I open a menu the MIDI stream stops, freezes. Again I had no problem with Logic 9. Besides the Minitaur who loses his Latin and not receiving continuous note off its momentum until I unplug it!!
I HOPE it's just a problem of setting config ...... But I put "nose in the engine." A priori correct environment, clock and MTC sync OK. For now I dry
No crash in 24 hours of use almost without interruption. A good
I installed yesterday afternoon, I know it is VERY lightweight to judge but for a first opinion is acceptable. BIG disappointment so far (Moche, MIDI and inconsistencies ....). That said there is not as disappointing. For news: MIDI arpeggiator a good, comprehensive, configurable as desired, FlexTime improved (but not Melodyne ...), correct compatibility plugins. At least the synth AU rather akin to a ROMpler of entry-level .....
I use Logic Pro 9 since its release, a real treat. Luckily the two can co exist on the same bcanne and I have not uninstalled. I keep the version 9 to sequence my synths Hard until we have something acceptable version of the X
I also have Ableton Live 9, which does déplaisse some, provides another way to work and does not duplicate a classic DAW
I like: so far not much outside the MIDI arpeggiator. Some improvements in the mixer. The integrated help
I do not like: The look on GarageBande, MIDI management, "instability" (parameterization personal disappearing see above). Apple's trade policy
Anyway for now I regret my € 179
I'll be back (if I change my mind)
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