All user reviews for the Bogner Ecstasy XTC 101B Head

100% amp lamps: 4xEL34 and 6x12ax7. Adjustable loop effect in parallel or in series, the volume to act as a general master volume. EQ for the clean channel (green) and for saturated 2 and 3 (blue and red) channels, volume and gain per channel. Possibility assigned a plexi mode, which is actually the fourth channel "hidden" from the amp, instead of channel 2 or 3. Presence two, one, or optionally assignable channel 1 or 3, or out of service. Two settings "excursion" (related presences) each with three mode. Expected to influence the movement of the cone (in fact, the volume difference is more than noticeable), they primarily affect the bass response. It also has a boost for the green channel, and another dedicated to the blue and red channel. Noted that the boost level is not adjustable, just disengaged. Finally, there is a switch "structure" that occurs on the nature of the saturation (blue and red) L is low, lower and more "soft", more "vintage" H is high, much more saturated, more modern and grainy . Finally, each channel has a switch with options N (neutral) B1 (bright one) or B2 (bright 2). They influence how the boost will react on the attack. They allow much work the grain, the definition of the attack that the boost level. B1 on the red channel is a bit like a treble booster on a vintage Marshall (well, more modern here) while B2 will be a little more subtle. This allows to adjust the attack based on its taste.

At the rear, in addition to the loop, we have the old and new style option that works the triode or pentode lamps. My model does not have the 50w mode.
In short, it is so complete that it tends to scare beginning!

UTILIZATION

The configuration is it simple? Well yes and no! Even Reinholdt Bogner has failed to make a standard textbook, concise, one must type the reading of his description from A to Z. .. Fortunately, the applications of each switch is audible, you end up very quickly dip the various interactions, as has already been said here. The problem is not to understand the amp and it's setting, but to make choices. I assure you, you can use this amp as a 3-channel bases, simple, like having an amp with 6 sounds underfoot. Of course, we must accommodate the common presets for each channel. This is where the plexi fashion becomes interesting, because if the equalization of blue or red channel is perfect for one of the channels but less effective for the other, you have the possibility to choose the crunch of plexi instead. Similarly, structure H (or L with a TS9 in front of) the blue channel can act as a lead channel, making the red channel less interesting: a phone switch, and presto, it is replaced by the plexi channel ... Anyway , the problem of choice and compatibility settings if we walk in equas weird or extreme. The amp is still very homogeneous, there is necessarily a configuration that fits the needs of the moment.

I will not go into the manual ... For sound, it is almost always good (matter of taste anyway).

SOUNDS

The green channel is the least plebiscited. Without boost, it can make a very good basis for a pedal-board and some exotic distos. With the boost, there is a clean very well made (not as a Shiva), who can venture on any terrain: jazz, funk, blues ... Well everywhere, without being great anywhere. Note that so far, this is definitely the best clear channel you can find on an amp 3 channels, with few exceptions.

The blue channel: So this, it is legendary for many people. This drive is the most copied in the world in the racks, multi-effects, etc.. Except that, as it is really produced by an amplifier, it has the body and the dynamics that goes with it. For those who like to shred, jazz-fusion, it is the dream drive. Although it sounds hot, I find it a little impersonal. Is pushed as I enjoy most is venturing into the world of a kind of JCM800 any clean, smooth, with a little more gain. Intermediate crunch have less impact on me. Matter of taste, it is for me too 80's California. With users of XTC 101b, it is one or the other anyway. As it is not too far from the red channel, it can act as rhythm channel, for example, or lead channel "spare", for example, playing single coil on the softer channel and double the red .

The red channel: less mythical, I just personally quite excellent. Less "boilerplate" and polished the blue channel, usually everyone finds it compresses much more. But as it is quite open, it has a bite that reminds me of the modified 80 plexi is wild, biting, singing.

Plexi offers a beautiful rhythmic crunch, a treat with simple. However, we will not have the "vintage" feel.

All these impressions are the fruit of my tastes and most importantly, how I set the amp for use ranging from blues to heavy rock. I prefer certain types of boost (see b1 and b2), rather like vintage that would be very very boosted.

In general, I noticed a certain kinship with Marshall provided without any defects you might blame the brand.

OVERALL OPINION

Ecstasy 101B ... an amp that made some guitarists dream! The fact that this amp is a quality of non-standard production (I did not feel it at that Soldano) which allows him to try to square the circle: to sound like a real amp all lights while being configurable as at will. You can venture into the mesa, in Marshall, to a lesser extent Fender, or create subtle sounds much more pronounced ... Not many brands that promise on their amps 3, 4 or 5 channels. But I've never tried one capable of much flexibility, while maintaining a very high sound definition, a dynamic light that would fade even some single channel. Side of the coin, even if he excels everywhere, it will never have the character of a twin, a plexi or JCM800 cranked. But all 3 channels, this is the one that is closest to their performance, it is transcribing a presence in the incredible mix.

So yes, it is very unsettling, so many possibilities, parameters to be set, but if you need 3 sounds available immediately, with the dynamics of a tube amp and not the plethora of channels 3 HiGain metal typed and while focusing on saturation Dante, in short, a 3-channel pro, then yes, this is the XTC you. It kills all the others in the mix (same amps too typed as the Tri-Amp Blackstar Series One or), retains heat and grain ... So no it will not do modern metal, but modern metal amps can not do a quarter of what this amp can do.

The Bogner Ecstasy 101b is a brilliant 3 channels of just about every tone you could need. 100 watts of el34 bliss, the 101b has more features than many other amps on the market. The front panel is adorned with two separate excursion controls, a second assignable presence control, an assignable boost and pre-eq selection for each channel, and switches to change the gain structure and to engage the legendary plexi mode. Around back the amp has both half power and an OLD/NEW switch to further refine the playability and dynamic feel of the amp. The amp also has an effects loop and footswitch.

UTILIZATION

The Bogner Ecstasy sounds fantastic at bedroom and gigging volumes. The build quality is extraordinary and the amp is beautiful to look at. The amount of options that Bogner have provided to shape your tone is unparalleled. You really have the best of all worlds with so many channel independent functions.

SOUNDS

played with a Gibson Les Paul Standard. Bogner 4x12 cab. No pedals.

The green (clean) channel is very easy to dial in and possesses a fullness that sounds finished like a recorded guitar track from a good record. It's not the most gorgeous clean channel you'll play but it feels nimble and appropriately so for a channel switcher in this price point. The blue channel is simply breathtaking. Any sound from jangly vox-esque rock to modded marshall snarl the plentiful tone shaping controls allow for some wild distinct tones to be had. The plexi mode in this channel handles liquid lead passages with sheer finesse. The red channel be ran relatively docile or wound up to near fuzz like tonalities. I found the red channel with medium high gain to have an exceptionally Hi Fi sound to it. Very finished. Very expensive sounding.


OVERALL OPINION

The Bogner Ecstasy 101b is a world class channel switcher with scarce competition in the market. It is considered one of the finest amps manufactured in the world and with great reasoning. I tested a Bogner Goldfinger that I could dial in comparable tones with. If you only need two channels, the GF 45 does a wonderful impression of the 101b's blue channel. However, for the sheer amount of features and the availability of 3 impressive channels, the 101b is absolutely worth its $3000+ price point. The 101b can be found for between $2100-2400 commonly on the used market. Great Investment.

- Three channels
- Shared eq for the second and third channels (mid and high gain)
- A million switches and options
- Optional metal grill
- Four EL34's (also available with four 6L6's called the 101A)

UTILIZATION

Here you have anything but your basic three channel amp. You have a three channel amp with a bunch of switches and convoluted layout. Tweaking this amp is a nightmare. I used to fight with this amp all the time throughout band practice. I could never get the right sound out of it. All of the switches proved useless. I even had the Class A/AB switch option, which was pretty useless as well. Just thinking about eq-ing this amp gives me an instant headache. I did like the mute on the footswitch, though. And the blue LED is a really nice color. The switching was fast and accurate.

SOUNDS

How it sounds depends on what channel you are on. The clean channel is really bad. Just awful. The notes don't bloom or sustain, they just clunk flatly on the neck. The clean sound was the worst part of this amp. The second, mid gain, channel sounded the best. It sounded like the best JCM800 you've ever heard. Some people have claimed that this channel is worth the price alone. I understand what they are saying, but not for me. The third, high gain, channel is a little odd. It is darker than the blue mid gain channel. So much so that it almost seems like you have cotton in your ears. Trying to tweak this channel was a frustrating task. You could hear that there was a good amp in there somewhere, but I could never coax it out.

I attempted to use three different cabinets with the amp. One was a Bogner angled 4x12 loaded with Celestion Vintage 30's. Another was a Marshall reissue basketweave cab loaded with Celestion Green Backs. The last was a Sunn reissue cab loaded with Celestion G12T75's. To my ears, the amp sounded the best with the Green Back cab and probably worst with the Bogner Vintage 30 cab.

OVERALL OPINION

This was my dream amp. I mean that. I had literally dreamed about this amp and how awesome it was going to be. Then I got it and was so disappointed. Like I said, the blue channel was fantastic, but the clean channel was bad and red channel was mediocre. It was not what I had been dreaming of. I tried to make the amp work. I wanted so hard to love it. No matter how hard I tried to embrace the amp, it kept pushing me away.

I honestly believe that if they did away with all the switches, it would probably make the amp sound better. I think that was part of the over all congestion of the clean and red channels.

One other problem I had with the amp is that my amp had the metal grill option. While in use, the hard plastic Bogner logo actually vibrated causing a loud audible buzzing sound. That was a little annoying.

If this is your dream amp like it was mine, I would suggest you try to play one since. I've played a few other since then and I still have a similar opinion of the amp. I wouldn't want you to have the same disappointment I had.

Amp lamps with three channels: green for clear sound and LGERS crunch, blue, for crunch and distortion "old" red for more modern distortion. To this adds the mode of plexi assignable one of the Distortion channel, which mimics the sound of a classic Marshall. Two assignable prsences with a green or red channels. The rglages:
* Green channel: gain, bass, mdiums, treble, volume, boost, pre-legalization (three positions: neutral, Brighton 1 and 2).
* Blue channel: gain, volume, pre-legalization.
* Red Canal: gain, volume, pre-legalization.
* Blue and Red Channel: Bass, mdiums, acute, structure (which Reduces the gain), boost, plexi mode (three positions: neutral, blue or red).

In gnral: SETTING THE prsence two, each with three positions named a rglage gre excursion bass response. Switch "half power" switch "old / new style" passing lamps in triode or pentode. arduit power and rendered acute. Switch Class A / Ab (optional). Effects loop operating in or parallle SERIES. Line out. Pdalier seven switches: green, blue, red, 1 and 2 boost, effects loop, and standby.

Trs so full, but it lacks a volume gnral. It existed on the Previous MODEL, but t sacrificed to second prsence. You can use the volume of the loop to grate all a. Another small BMOL, the legalization of common blue and red channels, but ultimately we can manage without playing on rglages pr-legalization.
Rverb No, no onboard effects.
In the end, no rglage is superfluous or unnecessary. Also no knob that turns in any direction without finding anything has served as on some amps. So a good place.

UTILIZATION

As said prcdemment is rgler complex, to the extent of rglages plthore ago. But everything sounds ... Some rglages interact. For example, the class A / Ab plays on the compression and rendering sharp, like the "old / new style. So, in the old style, with acute attnus means little trs Difference between A and Ab is the price paid for versatility.
The possibilities are standards, but I think this amp does not lose me either. It remains cohrent in its sound. The manual is comprehensive, but is only available in the language of Jack the Ripper. Bad sound, this amp does not connate ...

SOUNDS

The sounds:

In Manir gnrale, the sound is quite dark and sweet trs, trs soft.
* Canal Green fenderien its quite in the spirit of a Deluxe Reverb. IMMEDIATE is less than the Shiva, which is a bit better and softer. The Xtc is capable of clean sounds fabulous, but it involves some rglages. For a high gain head, the sound clear, well-slamming is among the best. With the boost, we obtain a more jazzy sound, a little more compressed. Can be cruncher lgrement sound clear.
* Blue Channel: trs its class, offering Arian crunch and rich, rather dark, but going well in the mix trs, trs expressive. There is a spirit in amphtamines Marshall. Moreover, compared to other amps sound closer in spirit (Marshall JVM 800, Orange Rocker 30) the Xtc offers its more pais.
* Red Canal: close enough to the blue, but more compressed and with a little more gain. It has a color a little more modern, but can sound vintage when the amp is configured in the IDE (old style Class A). With the boost engaged obtained trs liquid sounds, great for solos, with many rsonnance.
* Plexi mode: either it is used as a clear, more compressed and denser than the green (over Marshall in short) or crunch. It sounds, but ancessite to push a little volume, as prciser in the manual. The sound is great for blues or Led Zep (with the gain pushed. It accepts trs well overdrives of all kinds.

One of the strengths of XTC in his capacity RSID trs sound good, even low volume trs. It must be said that with the DIFFERENT switches, you can descend 100 (120 according to the manual) 50 and 25 watts and 7 watts even with the optional Class A! In fact, I use my same attnuateur not: it sounds better than my Orange Room 30 watts! The switch structure allows rduire will gain when there is too much, which is handy.

The loop is excellent, not blame his keeper.

OVERALL OPINION

I use it for six months. I regret the absence of a volume gnral. For the rest, I think the ultimate amp. You can do everything with, from jazz country music, from blues to heavy. It's a monster usable in all circumstances, in the Room, as in a stadium. This is the amp with which I use as few pedals (one on the TS mode or green plexi and a delay). A sign. It is simply itself. I do not think any amp can fill me as much, even though I have not tried everything I've known a lot (AC30, JCM900, Shiva, Studiotone, JTM60, DELIVERANCE, Rocker 30 ... )
The problem is the price, but we need perspective. For slightly less expensive, some brands who sell amps plop change the channel, which are inrglables and do not sound below 140 db. Finally, next one eye, but I would do this choice. In a way, found in one case even a Fender Deluxe Reverb, a JTM45, JCM800 and a 900 SLX. At worst, it should find occasion. The price is forgotten, the quality remains.

Bogner amplifier's is one of my absolute favorite amplifier manufacturers. They've built some of the best sounding most high-quality amplifiers in the industry. Their flagship amplifier has to be the ecstasy 101b amplifier. It is extremely versatile amplifier because of its clean, overdrive, and high gain channels. This amplifier has a load of versatility within in each of the three channels.

UTILIZATION

Features

Ch 1: gain, bass, middle, treble, volume, pre eq, boost
Ch 2 and Ch 3: gain 2, gain 3, bass, middle, treble, vol 2, vol 3, pre eq 2, pre eq 3, gain-structure, gain boost, plexi mode
Effects loop return master volume for power-amp
Effects loop tube buffered (series or parallel) with Effects mix control
Dual assignable presence controls
Dual assignable Excursion switches for loose, medium and tight feel
Power section 100W EL34 or 6L6 (50W optional)
1/2 power and old/new style switch (cuts power from 100W to 50W to 25 W)
Functions on foot controller: ch1, ch2, ch3, boost 1, boost 2, fx loop, stand-by mute



SOUNDS


I love this amplifier pretty much on every channel. The clean channel is pretty good but not fender like. It does lack a little bit in its brilliance and clarity. The blue channel is where things start to get cooking. It has a nice medium to high gain tone that is good for classic rock playing and early Van Halen type tones. This is also the channel that you would probably want to stay on if you do a lot of cover songs in a band setting. The third channel which is the red channel and high gain channel which comes to be more compressed and saturated sounding. It has a lot more gain than the other two channels and has a good old punchy thick tone. It's a great tone for modern music and has a great fell and warmth to it.


OVERALL OPINION


I highly recommend this amplifier to anyone who has the money to buy it. It's an exceptional amplifier if you can afford the big ticket price of $3400. That is a pretty expensive price for most people but this is a professionals guitar amplifier. So if you have the means I highly recommend picking this up because it has such a great feeling and great tone. The tone of this amplifier is leaning more towards the Marshall style or British style of amplifiers. So keep that in mind when looking at this amplifier.

View Previous opinion, everything has t say, and it is saying something!

For résumé may be, there are three channels:
Green-light =
Blue = crunch
Red = Saturbr />
The Green's qualisation its own, red and blue have to share the deuxime.

This config actually quite simple addition a whole bunch of little switches, which act on DIFFERENT channels, which are modes of legalization or "brightness" pr-Intgr (thus optimized s) in the amp.

All this can come in Class A or Class AB, in "OLD" or "New" in full power or 1 / 2.

UTILIZATION

A quantity of rglages important, especially when adding the interaction of rglages them. amp actually difficult not to ring, (it still sounds good), but Fully explore.
That said, the number of rglages is not for the pub, as on some amps, never betrays the sound, and do not dfie the laws of the electronics. On the other end of the design, each switch, each knob has its place and influence in the signal chain is optimized.
While still trs class. While both trs effective, each rglage is subtle, none is superfluous.

The manual is Submitted as a pretty cool little tutorial that allows to explore DIFFERENT modes of the amp. Not bad for beginners.

To return to the complexity of the amp, which repels certain:
Personally, I have tamper dtest lot of Settings, for example, rpt, or, in the scales of a concert, my sound to fit the circumstances. We are always presss by time, others get impatient and begin play in their corner while I brace my galre mdiums (I play in a group of 7 zikos, an era is t was 10) ... In the end we did not have time to ask for REALLY rgler his live sound requirements. Before I was using a good multi-effects, I do not touch more because of a. I am flmme. When I see the rack of some professional scratch, I have cold sweats. BREF.
And of course the Bogner, I finally understood all rglages, and know their influence. Basically I just found my prs sound. But when I am asked to get used live or in rpt (too much this, not enough of that ...), the Bogner and design, although far from being a handicap, are of a very effective. L o with another config stuff, I galrais, the I rflchis a dry, bim, if I was too aggressive crunch, I put the blue channel plexi, I put a pr eq B2, and a bit more gain, and it is softer without losing gniak.
C'tait such a con, but in short, everything that has all these little buttons, once maitriss, can get everything you want, without mangling the other rglages , and 3 seconds watch in hand ...

So for me it's much Designed trs.

Note again that it's solid, well screwed. Mine would be a 3rd to see a 4th hand. it dates from 2003 if I remember correctly. The lamps are original, and still operate niquel (that's what happens when one cares, especially when they are well mounted and biased by the developer base. And the circuit the emploit is Designed Obviously (and circuits pourraves even scandalous, even dangerous, in brands, there is!).

SOUNDS

Tsssssss!

Just standard. As aa t say, you can do everything ... Clear Channel is sublime, with low down. We can keep trs clear day you can also ensure to cruncher, you just make it funky, jazzy ...
the blue like this, there is something to eat. It can go from vintage trs trs mordern. Trs red can push further and win. I say this because c'tait important to me before you buy this amp. In the end, I gradually realized far in my use trs rock, I lowered increasing the gain for what I wanted ... Now I put half and yes, in fact, to have a sound that pte, most of the time, was not the gain that is important. This is the signal spectrum, the ability of the amp out each frquence cleanly and clearly. The stuff on which I played (for distortion pedals and amp), had never given the opportunity to realize it ... Trs cras always compress the slurry noise. Bogner thank you! a distortion that pte's mre. Always prcis trs, trs grainy, trs hot. With the gain at max, and the boost, you lose I find neat, but the sound is harmonic pt.
In short, we can do anything. Except possibly be getting the desired sound by some mtalleux, namely one synthetic and icy. Of course, I'm not talking about what would happen if we added even if only one of the pedals in the ass amp.

What I like with this head is that I know the day I want to ride a HXC punk band, I would not change the amp, pedals or a purchase of anything whatsoever. I also know that if it takes me the desire to go to the many blues roots, one can cradingue, a will be the same thing. Likewise if I wanted to jazz electric well rounded, but slamming, trs clear with nice bass .... In short, it is ultra versatile, has done.

The amp, which is the least of things the great respect that level guitar. It biensur far from being always the case. I use a Gibson Les Paul Studio, which has a key and a mahogany body bne: everything you need for a dark and rather dull. with it, I'll be even, thanks to the possibilities of Bogner, shine my sound, but the crunch, for example, will crmeux trs, and if I want to make aggressive to push their earnings do not forcment Russia, it will directly employ the best boost, or play on the qualisation for snapping sound.
I recorded a whole album with ecstasy, and I had the opportunity to plug a fender telecaster key stocky, short, opposite the gibson: slamming, trs brilliant. Well in addition to this basic diffrence, the receiver does not Ragit the same Manir. The crunch channel for example, will acquire the CHARACTERISTICS of the tl of any Manir, and management of sound on the amp will no longer be on the same paramtres as for the Les Paul. Increase the gain of crunch Russia for example tl much better that the Gibson. It will look empty for a long time voluent those in high-end amps, but always remember INTERESTED for others.

No problem to play trs low volume, you can enjoy the sound, it keeps its nuances, this is good what! And when I say low volume trs, trs it down! But even in the rpt, I never grows as a sal. I needed an amp that works well low / medium volume: niquel for Bogner.

Finally, I use a cab with 2 * 12 oversized Bogner (I have not sought to understand):
The sound is ... Comfortable. It s'insre in the mix of live. He never breaks the ears (well, when we want we can, empty). Braille has not ever sang. The low mode PREQ "LOOSE", are just beautiful, whatever the channel, and never the dull hum and unbearable, which messes up the whole sound, and I've often heard elsewhere ... In short: a lot has to noreilles the end of the rpt.

OVERALL OPINION

I for one year.
Before I had a few amplifiers based (marshall combo, a Fender combo, something from H & K. .. and a few pedals) ... I tried a few things ... In short, I do not have an exprience of a transcendent point of view stuff. However, has been a while since I played, especially in groups. And has sharpened my ear. I started random stuff I've had the hands, concerts, etc., determine my tastes, and the source of my problem's. I started like many want a lot of gain, bass, thing, thing ... But now I pig.
I can not say whether the Bogner is better than this or that high-end amp. I just know qu'intrinsquement, this amp is the ultimate. it is gnial.
Personally, I'm not a guy who changes his gear all the time, has stuff myself. I found a perfect amp. I have no doubt that if I want to direct it towards a particular sound as and the evolution of my life as a musician, I will follow. leaves help by changing the lamps pramp. Besides if I am in 20m, Fauch I do not sell, it is part of the furniture now!
If I had to make another choice is the one without the hsitation, I would do!

The Bogner Ecstasy 101B is an all tube 120W head packed with features. The 101 came as two versions the "A" and the "B". The latest being equipped with EL34 output power tubes.

3 Channel head, although channels 2 and 3 share the same EQ knobs, with the difference that the switches such as "Excursion", "Brightness", are independent for all of them. This makes the tonal possibilities of the amp almost endless.

Included is the 7 function footswitch, which controls the boosts for all channels and the On/Off switch for the Loop.

The Ecstasy 101B has other tone shaping options such as "Half power", "Class A/AB", "New/Old" on the back panel, as well as the send and return jacks for the effects loop.

Last but not least channel 2 or 3 can be assigned "Plexi mode" basically a plexiglass Marshall amp lives inside this amplifier.

UTILIZATION

The Bogner Ecstasy is so packed with features, knobs and switches it can be quite confusing and overwhelming at first. It is not an easy amplifier to set up, but the tonal reward when done so is well worth it.
It is not a beginner amp by any means, the manual available on the Bogner website is clear and helpful although there are tons of tricks on setting this beast up.

The build quality is up there with all the boutique makers, and I have not dealt with customer support from Bogner.

SOUNDS

First Channel (Green Channel): Can go from pristine cleans when set up correctly to classic rock when used with the boost. The clean channel's circuit is based off a vintage Fender, and the tip to getting a good sound is:

- Volume on 10, and use the Gain knob to control the output volume.
- Mids on 4 with treble and bass knobs adjusted to taste.
- Brightness switch on B1

There is no other way around it, but once done correctly the amp sounds gorgeous.

Second Channel (Blue Channel): This is the Bogner trademark sound right here, unique signature sound worth the price of admission. This channel can do it all. Needs to be heard to be believed. Boosted it can nail the 80's hard rock tones. If you need more gain...

Third Channel (Red Channel): More compressed and liquid than the Blue Channel, very good soloing channel but lacks a bit of low end tightness when needed. Seems less voiced for rhythm and more for leads. Lots of sustain and harmonics of course.

Plexi Mode: A nice addition to an already great amplifier, the Plexi mode behaves just like an old Marshall Plexiglass, it needs to be turned up loud to achieve greatness. Anyone who has played a vintage Marshall knows what I mean.

OVERALL OPINION

Pros: Build quality, lots of tone shaping features, and its versatility

Cons: The Red channel could be improved (In fact it was in the 20th Anniversary Ecstasy) to sound tighter and have more low end, for those Metal moments.

Overall this amplifier will do everything well, from Fender, to Marshall... while adding that addictive Bogner voicing that is so unique and special!

I would buy it again if the 20th version were not available. If you have the cash I suggest checking that one out first, as it carries the best features of this amp and then some...