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- CybernetworkPublished on 05/06/13 at 11:48 (This content has been automatically translated from French)The connectors for audio: three headphone jack output an L R, no entry ...
No buzzing, noise or ground, the sound is pretty clean.
MIDI connectors are in, out, thru.
An effect pattern to enable or disable on each hand!
rev, flg, phaser, ring mod, pitch shifter, comp, distortion, deci, resonator, filster delay mode, and a delay per unit.
The machine is more oriented drum n bass, bare naked scool break, hip hop, garage, and of course "hardtek tribe" which is recognized on the grain of the old vinyl kind fky capsule corp etc ...
A drum machine for grain are!
There is a free utility for easy editing pattern.
4 measure sequencer (64 steps) to enable focus on each hand, roll x…Read moreThe connectors for audio: three headphone jack output an L R, no entry ...
No buzzing, noise or ground, the sound is pretty clean.
MIDI connectors are in, out, thru.
An effect pattern to enable or disable on each hand!
rev, flg, phaser, ring mod, pitch shifter, comp, distortion, deci, resonator, filster delay mode, and a delay per unit.
The machine is more oriented drum n bass, bare naked scool break, hip hop, garage, and of course "hardtek tribe" which is recognized on the grain of the old vinyl kind fky capsule corp etc ...
A drum machine for grain are!
There is a free utility for easy editing pattern.
4 measure sequencer (64 steps) to enable focus on each hand, roll x2 mode, glisendo, swing.
As well as options to offset, copy, share share ..
UTILIZATION
The general configuration is it simple?
Very simple, electribe or fisher price? No, it's very intuitive, a 5 year old would be used.
The manual is complete, everything is until proven otherwise!
All the usual functions are before your eyes: o
SOUNDS
The sounds they suit your style of music?
That this particular and rather old scool grain in terms of electronic music that I like.
But the raw sound does not break bricks.
Once passed in software and treated as it should be I think we can get very good results.
The bass were once crushed something terrifying, like a little neurofunk,
and after a session of resampling I think there fast way to make HEAVY!
Against effects are "boundary limit" but like they traded their old school.
What are the sounds you prefer, you hate? ...
Défire be hard to grind, as I said I love the bass, the sub is also terrible and synth short I would say that the drums (integrated PCM) are seen again and again, like some ca interest
OVERALL OPINION
I've had two weeks, but it's been a while I know this bekane ...
I was es1x, em1x, er, ea 2 on i-pad ...
What is the particular feature you like best and least?
I love his oriented drum and bass sounds, naked skool, garage, and the heat that I find really different em1x his successor.
This machine is no longer manufactured since 2002 and argus to stagnated at around 130, 150.
I think in light of "rarity".
Maybe one of these machines will become personal collector AC helped my decision on this purchase because I do not really useful at least for the moment ......
I also taken by nostalgia and because I love these electribe that are a breeze to tamper ...
In fact I have to keep my kidsSee less61 - SpootniKPublished on 04/21/13 at 06:53 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Stereo Headphone output.
2 stereo output jack (L / mono)
Midi in - out - thru.
4 steps sequencer - 16 steps per bar - 256 Patterns, 16 Songs - 35 700 events per song.
10 parts / tracks percussion / drum tracks with 2 coupled to the effects such charlet.
PCM sounds: Drums-144, 50 Synth PCM waveform.
2 parts / synth tracks.
Focus on the drum part and separate synth.
Effects: 11 types (Reverb, Flanger / Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulator, Pitch Shifter, Compressor, Distortion, Decimator, Resonator, Filter, Modulation Delay).
Part filter with cutoff, resonance, envelope times and drive on the filter (kind of distortion of the filter).
Common part time with the envelope, pitch fo…Read moreStereo Headphone output.
2 stereo output jack (L / mono)
Midi in - out - thru.
4 steps sequencer - 16 steps per bar - 256 Patterns, 16 Songs - 35 700 events per song.
10 parts / tracks percussion / drum tracks with 2 coupled to the effects such charlet.
PCM sounds: Drums-144, 50 Synth PCM waveform.
2 parts / synth tracks.
Focus on the drum part and separate synth.
Effects: 11 types (Reverb, Flanger / Chorus, Phaser, Ring Modulator, Pitch Shifter, Compressor, Distortion, Decimator, Resonator, Filter, Modulation Delay).
Part filter with cutoff, resonance, envelope times and drive on the filter (kind of distortion of the filter).
Common part time with the envelope, pitch for drum which serves to glide synth. the track volume and balance (pan).
UTILIZATION
This is a drum therefore improved usage is very simple.
All parameters are readable on the front of the machine.
Opportunities to cut own tracks to allow a highly reactive electribe live.
What I appreciate in these machines is that they play more (see as an instrument) that was programmed to look or sounds.
SOUNDS
The sounds are all usable. But the failure of my point of view is that there is too little.
The filter is unique, and the effects allow you to add audio capabilities to the machine but actually quite fast round.
OVERALL OPINION
Electric 4 of this first series is the one that has the least liked.
It allows you to create pieces that hold the road but the sound palette is too low for my taste, I got quickly tired of this machine. Few waveform, too few parameters for the synth part., Not enough synth track. pattern too short for a synth.
It is far from the capacity of its big sister the emx I found most successful with "a lot" more opportunity.See less10 - recycledloops
for beginners and confirmed
Published on 10/06/12 at 01:43 (This content has been automatically translated from French)See product manufacturer ...
UTILIZATION
very very simple perfect start ...
functions are clearly accessible
the manual is very clear apart for MIDI (am beginner)
SOUNDS
yes in the old school style
or he has not ...
no, it is what it sounds vintage
all but the last 5 synths
OVERALL OPINION
month
just korg sd ESX1
as: Very easy to START
least: not enough sounds good but c is an old machine
very good, but 90 euro seems more suitable for occasion ...
Oh OUi!!14 - LéoMoldoPublished on 11/05/11 at 08:52 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Good characteristics are known: 150 drums sounds (8 per pattern), 50 monophonic synth sounds (2 per pattern), effects section (one at a time but only applicable to several drums or synths at the same time) + delay global.
Sequencer to the old, not velocity or pitch bend but with automation parameters (filters, pitch, glide, effects etc ...).
By playing against the synths with a midi keyboard (use as expander) it recognizes the pitch and velocity.
UTILIZATION
Very friendly and intuitive to use, especially with a lil midi keyboard to record melodic lines on the fly.
I never use the mode "song" I program my patterns and I recorded in the computer.
The only things a littl…Read moreGood characteristics are known: 150 drums sounds (8 per pattern), 50 monophonic synth sounds (2 per pattern), effects section (one at a time but only applicable to several drums or synths at the same time) + delay global.
Sequencer to the old, not velocity or pitch bend but with automation parameters (filters, pitch, glide, effects etc ...).
By playing against the synths with a midi keyboard (use as expander) it recognizes the pitch and velocity.
UTILIZATION
Very friendly and intuitive to use, especially with a lil midi keyboard to record melodic lines on the fly.
I never use the mode "song" I program my patterns and I recorded in the computer.
The only things a little boring are:
- Mixing volume between the sounds because you have to select each time the sound in question to change its volume, but anyway I record usually sounds one after the other and I mix in to the computer. For the live is a bit sucks.
- Having to stop playing for some actions (save a pattern, change the "swing", etc ...) but it is not very serious, overall it's still a very cool machine to be used for jam: one can still do almost everything online.
SOUNDS
Must not have any illusions here above: the sounds are quite dated nineties and a little "cheap", there is good and not so good but I find much usable and even sounds, it's COOL.
The drums are especially snares and kicks, a lot of synth sounds nice for bass heavy and spacey sounds. The editing of synth sounds is very limited but the filter is not bad.
The effects sound very lo-fi, you have to like, it can be if a particular exploitable want to sound a little like chiptune / 8bit (with Bitcrusher and reverb which made a very "digital dirty").
What I deal with is in a vein electro / groove / trip hop.
OVERALL OPINION
I bought a OCCAZ in very good condition (AF thank you!) Because I was fed up of 100% computer to compose, I wanted a cheap machine and limited to concentrate on the essentials and get ideas quickly . Also if I paid an analog synth or expander rack one day, I can use the sequencer to create the EM1 with electro loops.
It is synchronized to noon, then quite usable in a live set hardware with other machines.
So very good machine for the live or studio, even if limited in terms of sound.See less10 - DiZ69Published on 10/07/09 at 18:44 (This content has been automatically translated from French)<ul>
What connections (audio, MIDI ...)?
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Audio Connectors: 1 x STREO type jack (1gauche; 1droit) 1 headphone (type jack)
Note: The headphone plug is connected after the main exit, left = mono jack
MIDI Connectors: In, Out, Through.
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How many sounds and styles available? Are ditables? Through a utility Mac / PC?
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Audio Engine: 144 drum waves: (Pitch, Pan, Volume, Decay), 50 cfm synth waves (height, length or Release the knob on the keyboard, filters, distortion, pan, volume)
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He has an effects section?
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Section effect: 11 effects typical rverb, distortion, a time limit ... + rsonator gnral
(Only one end by pattern, each track as "bypass" the …Read more<ul>
What connections (audio, MIDI ...)?
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Audio Connectors: 1 x STREO type jack (1gauche; 1droit) 1 headphone (type jack)
Note: The headphone plug is connected after the main exit, left = mono jack
MIDI Connectors: In, Out, Through.
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How many sounds and styles available? Are ditables? Through a utility Mac / PC?
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Audio Engine: 144 drum waves: (Pitch, Pan, Volume, Decay), 50 cfm synth waves (height, length or Release the knob on the keyboard, filters, distortion, pan, volume)
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He has an effects section?
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Section effect: 11 effects typical rverb, distortion, a time limit ... + rsonator gnral
(Only one end by pattern, each track as "bypass" the delay + more for all tracks that play)
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What are the characters of squenceur? ...
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16 x 4 squenceur not measure "fawn TR909"
8 track drum track + 1 drum accent
2 Tracks + 1 synth synth track focus
for each drum track: 2 automation track (one knob to choose a button to choose)
synthesis for each track: 3 automation tracks, a knob, a button, a knob filter
for a focus track volume automation
gnral for the delay: 2 track automation: the two knob of publishing.
for the effects: the two knob paramtrables
For automation or notes, two modes: in rec + play, or by entering values for each step.
UTILIZATION
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Configuration gnrale Is it easy?
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Extremely
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The manual is clear and sufficient? ...
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Yes
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The usual functions are they easily accessible?
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Yes it is a electribe!
SOUNDS
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The sounds they agree your style of music?
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Yes (the era I played live: Hardtekno, hardcore Tekno etc ...)
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Are ralistes?
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Not
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The effects are they effective and responsive?
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They are anecdotal plutt
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What are the sounds you prfrez, you dtest?
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+ Techno drum kit
- Some wave cfm (synth)
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The expression is good? (Raction VLOC the aftertouch)?
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neither bike nor aftertouch ^ ^
OVERALL OPINION
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How long have you use it?
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I used a few years.
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Have you tried many other models before acqurir?
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Yes: ER1, EA1, ES1, MC303, Mc 307, Mc505, RM1x etc ...
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What is the particular feature you like best and least?
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+ Is a electribe, plug, play ...
- Still has a electribe ^ ^
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How do you report qualitprix?
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has the new era: too onreuse c'tait for what, today OCCAZ: excellent for fun or as a drum machine / utility box has bass
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Exprience with, you will do again this choice? ...
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Yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! ...
NB: it is a electribe, people know why they buy from! = 8 from everywhere! no competition (with the era) on this product, other groovebox complmentaire silent, these machines do not replaceable, it matches!See less10 - NoktePublished on 03/24/05 at 09:19 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Rev limit
UTILIZATION
Easy to use short a game boy to make his
SOUNDS
Ho hum ca not go very far has to boomboom
OVERALL OPINION
Good start but soon perceives that s c limit at any point27 - AlbakorePublished on 06/10/05 at 15:44 (This content has been automatically translated from French)The connector is for the complte bte it.
I just wish they did not think (or want) from an Audio In prcedentes like their machines.
UTILIZATION
I Reduces my diet for me to console, and now I'm hooked.
The handling is quick and simplicity of a mind-blowing. A condition for at least 1 tripotter 2H
per day, but even for someone who know nothing (to beginners like me) can quickly make something nice and everyone just find his account.
Normment not technical knowledge, I do not use the keyboard function matre which is a bit complex.
SOUNDS
Ah, it dlicat, 150 sounds and 50 rhythm synth sounds (which for me the last 5-6 are absolutely useless) plutt well have fun but a…Read moreThe connector is for the complte bte it.
I just wish they did not think (or want) from an Audio In prcedentes like their machines.
UTILIZATION
I Reduces my diet for me to console, and now I'm hooked.
The handling is quick and simplicity of a mind-blowing. A condition for at least 1 tripotter 2H
per day, but even for someone who know nothing (to beginners like me) can quickly make something nice and everyone just find his account.
Normment not technical knowledge, I do not use the keyboard function matre which is a bit complex.
SOUNDS
Ah, it dlicat, 150 sounds and 50 rhythm synth sounds (which for me the last 5-6 are absolutely useless) plutt well have fun but after a while you turn around the same sound despite its effects 11.
In addition, we can assign SEVERAL effects at the same time on a pattern, it's a shame ....
But it sounds good and sometimes we wonder how such sounds emerging from such a small thing.
OVERALL OPINION
I bought 2 years ago and I still m'clate above. Another machine even when ct is be welcome (in this case a samlpeur).
A lpoque I pay 640 E new. a bit expensive especially for a Premire BCAN but I have never regretted buying.
Honntement we can say we can buy it eyes closed ...... and open hands.See less20 - UnknamePublished on 12/06/05 at 09:10 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Separate output L / R
midi in / out / thru
but unequal effects compressor, tempo delay effects and two pretty decent!
sequencer super simple, correct!
Good point, it's still the korg! so it's very well done for!
UTILIZATION
Super easy and intuitive!
Manual nickel!
SOUNDS
Frankly, for a small groove box, it is effective, not many sounds of drums, percussions ... etc. there are still quite good quality!
the synths and bass are quite heavy and effective in all!
not enough oscilators, envelopes but hey it's still a small groove box!
but it's still also korg!
Frankly sounds are truly the best in its class (Roland and Yamaha are well below the same pri…Read moreSeparate output L / R
midi in / out / thru
but unequal effects compressor, tempo delay effects and two pretty decent!
sequencer super simple, correct!
Good point, it's still the korg! so it's very well done for!
UTILIZATION
Super easy and intuitive!
Manual nickel!
SOUNDS
Frankly, for a small groove box, it is effective, not many sounds of drums, percussions ... etc. there are still quite good quality!
the synths and bass are quite heavy and effective in all!
not enough oscilators, envelopes but hey it's still a small groove box!
but it's still also korg!
Frankly sounds are truly the best in its class (Roland and Yamaha are well below the same price ... it is my opinion!)
OVERALL OPINION
I had three years and composed quite a bit with it (in part)
The korg! Good stuff cheap, ideal for beginners who want to sound ... true!
I love korg!See less10 - hugh_13Published on 05/29/06 at 10:30 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Dja prcdament said ... Too bad there is no audio in!
UTILIZATION
Configuration gnrale quite simple but the record is of the same well come when you no conn. Normal function accessible to all people. Trs manual clear.
SOUNDS
I find it sounds very nice and raliste use force but it quickly turns around the bush. The effects are good with a bone rverbe but we love the good overlap.
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for 1 year
most: the sounds korg mtalique well, the snare drum are also trrible
the least: there are only two synth parts
no audio in
it my paterns boussiller 10 overnight and that of her friend Clak in hand for a live.
the cutoff is too fake (filter…Read moreDja prcdament said ... Too bad there is no audio in!
UTILIZATION
Configuration gnrale quite simple but the record is of the same well come when you no conn. Normal function accessible to all people. Trs manual clear.
SOUNDS
I find it sounds very nice and raliste use force but it quickly turns around the bush. The effects are good with a bone rverbe but we love the good overlap.
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for 1 year
most: the sounds korg mtalique well, the snare drum are also trrible
the least: there are only two synth parts
no audio in
it my paterns boussiller 10 overnight and that of her friend Clak in hand for a live.
the cutoff is too fake (filters) compared to korg synth
The report price is trs good quality second-hand I would do without this choice for beginners Sitat because there is nothing in such a stroke or another groove sampler makes it really good. My advice even when the emx-1 or the yamaha as good rm1x but not the same budjet c ...See less00 - julienvoirinPublished on 03/30/08 at 20:11 (This content has been automatically translated from French)L / R out
MIDI IN OUT THROUGH
between 9V
8 sections drums, synth sections 2 VA + x2 accent
64 no sequencer, pattern 256 in 4 banks (ABCD)
damage is no more spares assignable outputs
UTILIZATION
Too easy to play with the little conttrole are perfect for CRER, trs is a fast to the sound.
only problem, not save while the squenceur is PLAY
SOUNDS
Sound quality for not a COPEC! it leaves you something everything clean and Masters! gnial
OVERALL OPINION
Used for 4 months, my Machinedrum Adtron! in addition it is easy walking and lgreRead moreL / R out
MIDI IN OUT THROUGH
between 9V
8 sections drums, synth sections 2 VA + x2 accent
64 no sequencer, pattern 256 in 4 banks (ABCD)
damage is no more spares assignable outputs
UTILIZATION
Too easy to play with the little conttrole are perfect for CRER, trs is a fast to the sound.
only problem, not save while the squenceur is PLAY
SOUNDS
Sound quality for not a COPEC! it leaves you something everything clean and Masters! gnial
OVERALL OPINION
Used for 4 months, my Machinedrum Adtron! in addition it is easy walking and lgreSee less00 - shvalPublished on 07/09/10 at 08:01 (This content has been automatically translated from French)What connection (audio, MIDI ...)?
_Connectique Audio
1 phones
2 "L & R"
no audio in ...
_Connectique MIDI
In, Out, Through.
He has an effects section?
Yes Section 11 effects (one per pattern effect, each track being "bypass" the delay over all tracks at once)
How many sounds, styles available? Are they edited?
144 drum sounds (from 100 Things Change)
50 synth
editable for the synthesis (cutoff etc., but the pitch knobs handles only the portamento ...)
for drum parts, pitch and stuff, but nothing usable synth section
What are the characteristics of the sequencer?
the sequencer is the korg, you prepare and voila ^ ^
UTILIZATION
The general configuration it is s…Read moreWhat connection (audio, MIDI ...)?
_Connectique Audio
1 phones
2 "L & R"
no audio in ...
_Connectique MIDI
In, Out, Through.
He has an effects section?
Yes Section 11 effects (one per pattern effect, each track being "bypass" the delay over all tracks at once)
How many sounds, styles available? Are they edited?
144 drum sounds (from 100 Things Change)
50 synth
editable for the synthesis (cutoff etc., but the pitch knobs handles only the portamento ...)
for drum parts, pitch and stuff, but nothing usable synth section
What are the characteristics of the sequencer?
the sequencer is the korg, you prepare and voila ^ ^
UTILIZATION
The general configuration it is simple, the usual functions are they easily accessible?
could not be more simple (aside new ^ ^)
The manual is clear and sufficient?
sometimes twice a day
SOUNDS
The sounds they are suitable to your style of music?
much of the domestic samples and well but from 110 they are people who are not for me ...
Are they realistic?
some yes, but most definitely not ^ ^
What are the sounds you prefer, you hate?
_ + Some drum parts (kick snare clap etc.), some samples of the end
_ - The sound of Christmas aside for Christmas it is useless ^ ^
The effects are they effective and appropriate?
The effects are good (overall) but I'd like to be able to superimpose them.
OVERALL OPINION
For how long have you been using it?
for almost 3 months
Have you tried other models before buying it?
yes ea1 "rol 309" "rm1x"
What thing do you like most/least about it?
_ + Korg is the coup in half a day you voice about how you use it the same for this who know nothing
_ - No CPU multi purpose and mute as part of their big sisters ...
What is your opinion about the value for the price?
purchased OCCAZ 'now it's worth it ^ ^
Knowing what you know now, would you make the same choice?
so that I will not let go ^ ^
See less10 - FP UserPublished on 10/31/08 at 16:00If you are a newbie to the world of music production, this product will suit you great. It's only just come out on the market and the price no doubt will drop soon. It has loads of memory storage but the main limit on this product is that it can only cope with 4 bars per memory store where as most trance producers work with 8 bars of music in each pattern. It also only features 2 synths, but for the size that it is it's pretty impressive.
Price paid
£350
UTILIZATION
I've rated the usability quite high as if this product was being used live in a club, the ability to swap from one pattern to another is great. Changing the sounds and knocking in and out parts live works a treat. The…Read moreIf you are a newbie to the world of music production, this product will suit you great. It's only just come out on the market and the price no doubt will drop soon. It has loads of memory storage but the main limit on this product is that it can only cope with 4 bars per memory store where as most trance producers work with 8 bars of music in each pattern. It also only features 2 synths, but for the size that it is it's pretty impressive.
Price paid
£350
UTILIZATION
I've rated the usability quite high as if this product was being used live in a club, the ability to swap from one pattern to another is great. Changing the sounds and knocking in and out parts live works a treat. The interface is very flashy with all the soft rubber 'press' buttons lighting up. The unit is very easy to hook up to midi aswell.
I managed to blow the power supply that ships with the em-1 on the first day i got it, due to the power supply 'supplying' not enough current for what the em-1 needs. This was due to me having the em-1 switched on when i plugged my power supply in, although the unit should be able to deal with that without a problem anyway. If you're going to take this unit out to a club i'd suggest getting a padded bag for it, although my unit has survived quite a few drops on the floor so far.
SOUNDS
The sound on the korg is slightly limited, it has 50 synth-waveforms, which sound very similar to one another which was quite disappointing, these sounds though can be altered using the effects and other sound controls. The biggest problem is that the sound is only capable of playing one note at a time, making chords an imposibility unless using the 2 synths at the same time, but still only having 2 notes at a time. The sound waves on the em-1 sound very digital and there is nothing near a string like noise.
OVERALL OPINION
I wouldn't suggest this unit if you're building on a pro studio, or if you've been in the production side for a long time. I was disappointed by the limit on the variety of sounds. I want to produce more trance than anything else, korg were meant to make this product in mind of producing a variety of styles although i think it concentrates on a lot of drum and bass. I'd definately advise it as a first unit. The korg travels everywhere with me though as it is so light.
Originally posted on FutureProducers.com
Posted by: Unknown ( 4-, 2002)See less00 - FP UserPublished on 10/31/08 at 16:00I liked alot of the effects available to me.The step sequencer wasn't new to me after using Korg's EA-1.I was wanting something more out of the little black box but could never figure out what it was until the EMX-1 came out.Overall the features are average for the price paid,think of it as a very basic production station to get an idea out on.
Price paid:$350 USD
UTILIZATION
I never really had a problem with the EM-1,it's very quite simple to use and the matrix is a smooth flow compared to the microKorg.Everything on this unit is laid out before your eyes and all you have to do is press a key or tweak a knob and watch the sounds sculpt right before you.
SOUNDS
I was quit…Read moreI liked alot of the effects available to me.The step sequencer wasn't new to me after using Korg's EA-1.I was wanting something more out of the little black box but could never figure out what it was until the EMX-1 came out.Overall the features are average for the price paid,think of it as a very basic production station to get an idea out on.
Price paid:$350 USD
UTILIZATION
I never really had a problem with the EM-1,it's very quite simple to use and the matrix is a smooth flow compared to the microKorg.Everything on this unit is laid out before your eyes and all you have to do is press a key or tweak a knob and watch the sounds sculpt right before you.
SOUNDS
I was quite shocked at the time when I had heard this thing.Although there was alot of mixed opinion about it's sounds,some felt it was bad because it's monophonic while others felt it lacked the sound more costly units had.For the price paid you can tweak the sounds enough to get something other than the factory sounds and still have a great idea come out of it.
OVERALL OPINION
Like my EA-1,this is very durable.Although my black paint is starting to chip off in some parts of the unit,it's still very durable and has not broken on me yet.
I can't say I was truly in love,but I was happy with the purchase of this.It gave me a hands on approach,and as I grew to learn this unit every time I used it I also discovered more and more of what I was looking for in a hardware production station.
Originally posted on FutureProducers.com
Posted by: TheOracle ( 6-, 2005)See less00