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Bad Sound Quality through Main Outputs
Published on 02/10/20 at 00:022 audio examplesI believe that this review also applies to the newer Yamaha MOXF6.
I bought the MOX6 many years ago, way back in 2013, just before stores had stock of the MOXF6 which was to replace the MOX6.
When I first had a play with it, the sound quality was so bad I put it back in its box and just left it in storage to collect dust. I couldn't believe Yamaha did what they did. I was a fan of the Yamaha DJX and I couldn't believe Yamaha made the sounds this bad.
Now in 2020, I thought that it was time to sell my MOX6 but I noticed that some people were talking online about bad A/D and D/A converters which might be the cause of the bad sound quality.
I managed to get the schematic of the M…Read moreI believe that this review also applies to the newer Yamaha MOXF6.
I bought the MOX6 many years ago, way back in 2013, just before stores had stock of the MOXF6 which was to replace the MOX6.
When I first had a play with it, the sound quality was so bad I put it back in its box and just left it in storage to collect dust. I couldn't believe Yamaha did what they did. I was a fan of the Yamaha DJX and I couldn't believe Yamaha made the sounds this bad.
Now in 2020, I thought that it was time to sell my MOX6 but I noticed that some people were talking online about bad A/D and D/A converters which might be the cause of the bad sound quality.
I managed to get the schematic of the MOX6 and I noticed that Yamaha are using a Cirrus Logic WM8740 DAC chip. This chip is used in high quality DAC gear so I don't think it's the chip.
I attach two sound files.
The first sound file "Song 1 Through Main Outs" is Song 1: Club WorX played through the main outputs of the MOX6.
The second sound file "Song 1 Through USB Port" is Song 1: Club WorX played through the USB port of a computer running Logic Pro using the Yamaha Steinberg USB drivers. A cable connects the USB port on the MOX6 to the USB port on the computer. No processing or effects whatsoever was added to the song in Logic Pro. The song was played through the USB port into Logic Pro using the driver and straight out again through the headphone port of a Mac Laptop.
Notice that the second sound file sounds a lot better than the first one. The sound in the second file did not go through the DAC and associated output circuitry of the MOX6. From the schematic, the sound in the second file only had to pass through a USB Audio chip which was connected directly to the output of the WAV sound library stored in the MOX6.
So I think that the sound in the second file would be what you would hear on the Motif XS, though I cannot confirm this because I don't have one.
The sound in the first file had to pass through the WM8740 DAC chip and associated output circuitry, but not the USB Audio chip.
It is clear that if you just plug in speakers or headphones into the MOX6, what you will hear is absolute crap. But it might pass in a lively disco party.
If you want to hear quality sounds, you have to use a computer and use USB Audio drivers to listen to it. I believe for the MOXF6, you can use an iPad or iPhone with the Camera Connection Kit but I don't think you can with the MOX6.
What is Yamaha trying to do? Are they trying to make you think that the MOX6 is crap so you have to buy a Motif to get the quality sounds?
I'm keeping my MOX6 now.See less00 - DEEJAY MY'Z
"THE REASON AT ALL TO DO"
Published on 09/16/14 at 17:13 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Having a fairly short budget, I bought the MOX6 with some trepidation at first ... but my doubts were quickly dispelled. Indeed at first glance, it looks like a pattern MOX6 ... has pretty much the same look and feel of older versions, almost same functionality ... but not very aesthetic plastoc true. Matt black for the hull I do not like it at all, the pitches and pots vraimment cheap for the rest it is ok, but we feel the reduction of manufacturing costs, although of course the weight is made very light 6-7Kg. Korg whether for the M50 or KROME heal much better its entry-level workstation.
The keyboard 61 notes without aftertouch is the same inclination, soft, plastoc ... but it can be d…Read moreHaving a fairly short budget, I bought the MOX6 with some trepidation at first ... but my doubts were quickly dispelled. Indeed at first glance, it looks like a pattern MOX6 ... has pretty much the same look and feel of older versions, almost same functionality ... but not very aesthetic plastoc true. Matt black for the hull I do not like it at all, the pitches and pots vraimment cheap for the rest it is ok, but we feel the reduction of manufacturing costs, although of course the weight is made very light 6-7Kg. Korg whether for the M50 or KROME heal much better its entry-level workstation.
The keyboard 61 notes without aftertouch is the same inclination, soft, plastoc ... but it can be done fairly quickly. The keyboard is well supplied with outputs, with traditional audio outputs, headphone jack, MIDI IN and THRU-OUT, USB output for PC and USB connection to insert a key to save and import your backup ... well pensé.Le must This is the audio input for coupling MOX6 with a keyboard, guitar, microphone ... watch no sampler as on SS6. For it is against the MOX6 over 1,200 sounds from the motif XS, almost 7000 arpeggios ... well that's concrete level creation.
Homis editor's PC, the MOX6 comes with CUBASE AI5 because it has an internal sound card which makes this synth production ready and fairly autonomous mobile mode. For the rest of the specs just been said.
UTILIZATION
Having had a SS6 reason I have not been disoriented by the configuration because it is the same ... by against the manual is easier to access than the former when it was a textbook that has me sweated made more than once. That said the pattern has a great community and many website and tutorial are available I think papanix.free.fr/Moessieurs/ excellent cheat sheet for fégniasse like me. For newcomers to Yamaha, their logic on Alternative can be scary to and seems very complex to operate the workstation ... but once inside we perceive quickly that everything is designed to work quickly and well. There are three main modes:
VOICE mode which includes all the sounds in the pattern where we have the ability to create and save personal reworked its sounds, the EFFECT on the left part of the keyboard with the insertion effects and arpeggiator that can remodel the sound is relatively simple to use for the little that looks at the manual and tutorials.
Perform the mode to use MOX6 as an arranger. I personally use it in the studio mode and I do not live so I do not use or little, I think it serves mainly to those with MOX8 with a heavy touch. 61 in this format and with this touching ... I think the pros will turn to another keyboard dedicated to this function ... but it adds a facet to this keyboard more.
PATTERN AND SONG is the creation and sequencing part of the synth fashion ... it's really the core production perfectly coupled with Cubase in real time. Indeed, the big highlight Yamaha Motif MOX and therefore it is this special methodology to design and ergonomics his music, which creates pieces with a lot of instinct and simplicity. The PATTERN mode is a recording loop (loop 16 with 16 tracks each) ... we can model a compo radipement and make défiller again and again to understand and determine the binding between the parties pieces give it some life and color. One can improve his production in the Song Mode that lets you edit one or more linear sequences of your patterns and switch everything on Cubase to finalize a MAC or PC software is indispensable for a purpose.
I focused on this mode but being beatmaker and loving work quickly, I take pleasure in beacoup work that way ... The séqueceur my KROME out evolved from the M50 but it does not work that fast. So when you know that the keyboard weighs 7kg, among friends zicos you can really break out in the prod. Conclusion and above board does not repulse you to the config, try to hold on to the logic of the keyboard and you will quickly perceive that if Yamaha did not change after so many years it is not for nothing .. .the only thing to change is the small screen to the large format color a bit like the XS or XF. When I see the size and the screen of my 88 Krome is very pleasant and enjoyable especially when going 5:00 in a row on his bike. It has the Cubase interface cheer the austere MOX6 but hey we are in 2014 still ... there with this small screen I have the impression of being in the 90's !!!
SOUNDS
To start this section as significant are the sounds, I'll start with the general amplification. It is insufficient sounds are good and well-balanced but lack potato. Compared to my Korg Krome 88 there is still a difference sacred and therefore you need to boost the sound a bit MOX6 to get something acceptable. This is even more glaring when INPUT mode is used and that couples the mox to another keyboard, amplification of the output is disproportionate to the power amplifier MOX6. Souvenir my Motif ES6 was better.
The first sound is the sound PIANO, it is very acceptable and very numerous, the Full Concert Grand Yamaha enough foil is desous my KORG KROME especially in severe, I wish sounds more european than japanese pianos. That's why I preferred the Krome 88 in the MOX8.
The electric pianos are very good, I love the diversity of rhodes, slightly below my Korg it is true but quite different therefore quite complementary with my other synth. The clavinets are very good. It's a bit the same for the organ, great samples and great variety. Note that Yamaha gives an organ pull software, I personally nothing to shake!
Acoustic and electric guitars are really a bit above all that I've experienced in synth, light years from Krome, the bank XS is really founie in this direction. Certainly the guitarist did not find much to their liking but the MOX6 it is a real highlight and arpeggios adds groove to the sounds. Anyway ... Excellent!
For acoustic bass, I prefer my car Krome more balanced and varied tones and more differentiated. on the other hand for electro Bass synth and I prefer that my Krome as much punchy with a sense of power that I find not the MOX6.
Violins are beautiful and I prefer my KROME, very melodious, especially for anything acoustic violins for a little more electro is kif kif with the Krome. As against the harps are beautiful on the MOX6.
For wind instrument like the saxophone, BRASS ... okay ... but no more difficult to judge as I rarely use their sounds. compared to the Krome is slightly better but I am not convinced by either one or the other ... I have a friend saxophonist same time.
For the largely electro synth ... it's a huge bank split into 3 part (LEAD / CSA / COMPING), although many varied sounds are similar (I think the pads), good overall quality. The comping is the best part. Compared to Krome, it's hard to say because they are highly complementary. There are things that are in the MOX6 and there are cheap KORG and vice versa. With its sound as part EFFECT Arpège and makes sense.
Finally for percursions, nothing to say and nothing new compared to my SS6. At the same time the kits are excellent and allow you to start making the beat with confidence. Also very balanced and which are less prone to saturation as my Krome. Anyway, the panel allows you to create rhythms of all kinds. That makes me more hip hop / RNB / SOUL ... I prefer MOX6 as kits rnb / hip hop remain quite acoustic and plunges me into the best years late 90's early 2000 on the other hand I millite to obtain from Kit manufacturer of a NEO SOUL and KIT OF ELECTRO FUNK 80'S !!! it's still invraissamblable not have these very special live percussionist.
Conclusion at the sounds, the huge bank motif XS partly hides some gaps as some sibling piano or bass electro more powerful ... It's a shame that the overall gain is slight, but overall it was well value for money and you can type in almost any style.
OVERALL OPINION
I needed a Yamaha motif with a very very short budget. I hesitated to take a more expensive SS6 reason, I do not know what to think of MOX6, given the number of keyboards occasion the very cheap side. But I was half-surprised because MOX6 is not half a REASON, it is a true Workstation with the same production capacity much better than my old Korg M50 61 in sound and perfectly complements my Korg KROME 88 Interaction with cubase, audio input, USB output ... make a Reason keyboard to do everything .... everywhere!
Certainly it has perfectible quoted as amplification, tiny screen or the cursed dress black matte plastic but the investment / return cost production opportunity keyboard dissippe quickly these inconveniences. The bank XS is huge and good. I think version 61 is the most interesting for the price. The ??? MOX8, unless kiffer yamaha piano sounds ... the Krome 88 is still more pleasant and powerful volume.
The MOX6 became the centerpiece of my studio on beatmaking and production base for its more realistic acoustic side is my my architect and perfectly complements my Korg Krome 88, my decorator, which adds a touch of extra madness the electro level ... until another employee why not. I would end by saying that its price remains an enigma, a beautiful enigma to my bank account even ... but not in his favor, I think, because it increased the MOX6 cheap for a reason! Anyway that's what I thought at first ... now I do not regret my purchase and I recommend it for small budget in the version 61, because very very very profitable investment in the end.
See less90 - Lougarou
I tested it but haven't had the time to buy it!!
Published on 10/02/13 at 05:58The technical description is available at Yamaha/mdownload, etc....
So, in short:
- 61 truly synth-like keys, almost like an organ, but what can you expect for the price...
- Almost 1200 presets
- Maximum three dual insert effects per channel, one EQ per channel, 2 x sends (reverb/chorus for example), one Master Fx, and one general EQ.
- 2 x 4 pot matrix, 2 x assignable function buttons, 1 pitch bend wheel + 1 modulation wheel and 2 x footswitch inputs (I think) + 1 x sustain/hold...
- 64 notes maximum polyphony for simple mono sounds (careful!!!).
It's not such a great stage keyboard, it's more functional, I think Yamaha conceived it with Home Studio owners in mind ─ do correct me i…Read moreThe technical description is available at Yamaha/mdownload, etc....
So, in short:
- 61 truly synth-like keys, almost like an organ, but what can you expect for the price...
- Almost 1200 presets
- Maximum three dual insert effects per channel, one EQ per channel, 2 x sends (reverb/chorus for example), one Master Fx, and one general EQ.
- 2 x 4 pot matrix, 2 x assignable function buttons, 1 pitch bend wheel + 1 modulation wheel and 2 x footswitch inputs (I think) + 1 x sustain/hold...
- 64 notes maximum polyphony for simple mono sounds (careful!!!).
It's not such a great stage keyboard, it's more functional, I think Yamaha conceived it with Home Studio owners in mind ─ do correct me if I'm wrong!!!
UTILIZATION
The overall design is very simple.
It's not easy to edit sounds with the small screen, but the PC editor makes it easier. I've been using workstations since the '90s, some of which were like Rube Goldberg machines, and it's not my thing!! I kept a Korg EMX-1, which I also use as an "expander" for electronic/analog sounds. The interface is perfect for that.
Th menus system provides an intuitive browsing of the parameters and effects at different levels.
Likewise, the music production workflow is pretty well implemented: Ever since the Motif 6, Yamaha has really evolved its sequencer and right now it's simple AWESOME. It's fast, creative, it makes you want to play more, make songs, play covers...In short, you have a blast with it! Ah!! If I had had it ten years ago instead of the Motif 6....
SOUNDS
I have liked Yamaha sounds for a long time because I think the Yamaha sound is always a bit better than before, there's always something to arrange/compose/play in different music styles. It doesn't limit me, it sounds good.
With a 800/1600W PA System it really rocks, with great dynamic response, sound might seem a bit cold but a bit of EQ will allow you to color it to your taste. There's plenty to do...
There are not many Yamaha sounds that I don't like, maybe the synth sounds, but I have a supernova and/or EMX Korg for that, so.....
The controllers allow you to do great things in Song and Pattern mode, it's good to create Fx/wooshes.
OVERALL OPINION
I didn't buy it: The MoxF came out when I wanted to buy it but I went to the store at least three times to test it properly.
I kept my Rack ES equipped with two PLG-150-AP and PF cards. I had a Motif ES6 and an XS, which I sold.
It might fall short in terms of polyphony for someone who does arrangements or composes with it, and it only stores three insert FX in multitimbral mode.
Its main advantage is the built-in audio/midi interface and its PC integration: It's awesome!
But even better is that it has the exact same engine as the XS but with half the polyphony....): Direct recording in performance mode of four Arps with chord recognition at this price...Simply put, it's a unit to make music with ease!!!
Given its price, I recommend it to beginners, arrangers, composers, etc. It's a formidable practice tool and a superb stage instrument, too!!!
Don't think it twice: At this price, specially secondhand, GO FOR IT!!!!See less00 - pierremanu84
Very good, but a bit light ...
Published on 09/10/13 at 01:015-octave version
See the Yamaha website
UTILIZATION
Setup: I had to take a couple of peeks in the manual
Sound editing: I haven''t really used it...
The performance creation function deserves a point: In Split or Layer, you look for the starting sound, press Split or Layer, choose the second sound and you're done (and you can edit it right away).
It saves you a lot of time!
I have never really used the sequencer nor the pattern mode (only to fool around a bit, but nothing serious).
SOUNDS
I use it live with a cover band, so I need a bit of everything, but I always find what I need. However, I think Yamaha plays the card of overabundance of sounds, not always justi…Read more5-octave version
See the Yamaha website
UTILIZATION
Setup: I had to take a couple of peeks in the manual
Sound editing: I haven''t really used it...
The performance creation function deserves a point: In Split or Layer, you look for the starting sound, press Split or Layer, choose the second sound and you're done (and you can edit it right away).
It saves you a lot of time!
I have never really used the sequencer nor the pattern mode (only to fool around a bit, but nothing serious).
SOUNDS
I use it live with a cover band, so I need a bit of everything, but I always find what I need. However, I think Yamaha plays the card of overabundance of sounds, not always justified... Because, you always end up playing the same sounds, and some others are completely useless. It's a pity, because you can get easily lost in the 8 sound banks plus the GM.
In terms of electric organs, it's a pity that the AS 1 and 2 (assignable buttons) aren't systematically linked to the same function... and the parameter assigned isn't written anywhere! Not very useful...
When it comes to basic sounds (acoustic piano, EP, electric organs and clavinet), it's quite limited. Especially since they are somewhat "slim," which means they don't take up too much space in the soundscape. I know there's an "Easy sounds" library that seems all right... I'll have to test it!
From what I've used up to now (pianos, EP, clavinet, strings, organs and some synths), I don't have too much to say in terms of quality and realism.
OVERALL OPINION
I've been using it quite intensively for +/- 6 months
I used to have a first generation motif rack together with a master keyboard.
I regret not having kept the rack, especially for some sounds that I have never found on the MOX (not with the same quality, at least).
But when it comes to ease of use, I don't regret a thing!
What I like the most: The ease and speed with which you can create a performance (split or layer), the overall quality of the sounds, the controls.
What I like the least: The lack of consistency of certain sounds (which you can get around by making a layer with another sound, like a pad or synth strings), the manufacturing is a bit cheap...
Brief update from 01/24/14: With the sounds of the Easy Sounds libraries (Live Instruments and Organ Session) the sounds are more complete... and you can make better use of the workstation's audio engine.See less00 - blogtrotter
A powerful "beast"... for $900!
Published on 05/09/13 at 09:26There's no point in me going into the details, Yamaha does that much better than me! However, it's true that the weight is surprising for such a device. The plastic finish doesn't annoy me, even the carved edges hold up.
I use it basically in the studio and, sometimes, for "easy" gigs. I don't usually take it in the trunk of my car to a barbecue...
Connections: That's an easy one, it's great! You surely have an entire computer music setup, but on the road, a power outlet, a laptop pc with the CUBASE DAW version included, you place your shure beta58a on a mic stand and your' ready to roll.
Very low latency, which is pretty good (-14ms in windows 7 64bits on an Asus with I7 and 8 Gb ra…Read moreThere's no point in me going into the details, Yamaha does that much better than me! However, it's true that the weight is surprising for such a device. The plastic finish doesn't annoy me, even the carved edges hold up.
I use it basically in the studio and, sometimes, for "easy" gigs. I don't usually take it in the trunk of my car to a barbecue...
Connections: That's an easy one, it's great! You surely have an entire computer music setup, but on the road, a power outlet, a laptop pc with the CUBASE DAW version included, you place your shure beta58a on a mic stand and your' ready to roll.
Very low latency, which is pretty good (-14ms in windows 7 64bits on an Asus with I7 and 8 Gb ram).
UTILIZATION
User's manual?? Help!
The MOX is my first workstation, I always plugged my former keyboard (a Tyros 3) via the direct output with cubase.
But with this one, I really need some help...after three days, 6 hours per day, I haven't been able to edit the voices the way I want!
(I can hear the sneering laughs already: But no, I'm a newbie, but I'm not a fool and I can assure you that you really dive into the innards of a workstation!!)
Lots of shortcomings in the manual. Every technical answer raises yet another question, which is not answered.
It's a pity, really.
SOUNDS
The sounds...I can confirm that they are awesome, other reviewers have summarized that pretty well.
It's an atomic bomb. Maybe the pianos are below my expectations. But hey, I'm not a pianist ^^
OVERALL OPINION
For a knowledgeable fan, a prolific composer/performer dreaming about tossing all his creations at once (which are called performances in the mox6) and being able to listen to them right away, it's a true monster!
Sound libraries, immediate settings, an entertaining sequencer (other people say that, I have just starting using it), and arpeggiators and rhythms that will immediately satisfy your musical creativity.
I would go so far to say that even the shortest "standard" chord that goes through the arpeggiator will make you want to immediately grab a pen and start writing some lyrics.
With the tyros 3 you get immediate "pop," while the MOX6 cools you down because it's a bit more complex. But its "motifs" are IMPRESSIVE, way better than anything I have heard up to now.See less00 - Lennon Mercury
Lots of possibilities, if you are patient
Published on 04/19/13 at 09:53Workstation derived from the famous Motif XS
5 octaves, the keyboard isn't great (too noisy when you press the keys).
1,200 pretty varied sounds. Very sophisticated arpeggiator that can handle 4 arpeggios simultaneously. More than 6,500 arpeggios. 16-track sequencer.
Very light (15.4 lbs), all-plastic.
UTILIZATION
I was hard pressed to talk about it because, being used to simpler keyboards, this was my first workstation and I had a hard time getting it. I love things that are intuitive and, unfortunately, to make the best of this keyboard, you need to go through the user manuals (the small, printed one that comes with it plus the three PDF files on a DVD).
The only things I did…Read moreWorkstation derived from the famous Motif XS
5 octaves, the keyboard isn't great (too noisy when you press the keys).
1,200 pretty varied sounds. Very sophisticated arpeggiator that can handle 4 arpeggios simultaneously. More than 6,500 arpeggios. 16-track sequencer.
Very light (15.4 lbs), all-plastic.
UTILIZATION
I was hard pressed to talk about it because, being used to simpler keyboards, this was my first workstation and I had a hard time getting it. I love things that are intuitive and, unfortunately, to make the best of this keyboard, you need to go through the user manuals (the small, printed one that comes with it plus the three PDF files on a DVD).
The only things I did with it was to play different sounds and use some arpeggios, even though this keyboard has a lot of potential. However, while some sounds are excellent, the keyboard of the MOX6 wasn't pleasant at all.
SOUNDS
The sounds are very varied and of excellent quality. I have a Yamaha arranger from 2004 and you can tell the evolution. Even if I never really liked the classic piano sounds, the electric pianos are very, very good (be it the Wurli, the clavi or the DX7), the guitars finally sound like guitars (both the acoustic and the electric) ; the brasses and strings are magnificent and cover anything you can musically want, be it acoustic or synthetic instruments (Jump-like brasses, Vangelis-like strings, string machine, different combinations); three nice pads, numerous leads, and excellent drum kits (for all music styles, classic and modern). Also noteworthy are about ten mellotron sounds, which are good.
OVERALL OPINION
It's impossible for me to assess this synth objectively.
The MOX6 has an enormous potential, at a reasonable price, given its capabilities. It's perfect for someone who knows how a workstation works, who is more patient than me and doesn't have the money to get a Motif (as long as you disregard the keyboard). I regret not having had the time to get my hands dirty with it because I think I could've written some damn good songs with its very powerful sequencer.
But, being more of a "Live" player and being practical about it, I sold it to get a real stage synth: The Roland Jupiter 50. The Mox6 was simply not made for me.See less00 - jprintz
Damn good!
Published on 02/10/13 at 02:14Powerful and with a generous memory.
UTILIZATION
It's very easy because the synthesis is not revolutionary. Standard ROMpler with the basics: AWM waveform, resonant filters, filter-amp envelope generators, pitch, and effects.
Simple but effective. The sequencer is very powerful and easy to use.
SOUNDS
Very good sound. Guitars are remarkable, the pads are nice and evolving, thanks especially to the very subtle but at the same time powerful arpeggiators. All in all, it's a Yamaha: Precise, realistic enough and a bit "cold."
The keyboard... It's less noisy than the one on the DX7II. A bit soft for my taste, especially when you want to make a piano sound... But hey, it's fin…Read morePowerful and with a generous memory.
UTILIZATION
It's very easy because the synthesis is not revolutionary. Standard ROMpler with the basics: AWM waveform, resonant filters, filter-amp envelope generators, pitch, and effects.
Simple but effective. The sequencer is very powerful and easy to use.
SOUNDS
Very good sound. Guitars are remarkable, the pads are nice and evolving, thanks especially to the very subtle but at the same time powerful arpeggiators. All in all, it's a Yamaha: Precise, realistic enough and a bit "cold."
The keyboard... It's less noisy than the one on the DX7II. A bit soft for my taste, especially when you want to make a piano sound... But hey, it's fine for synthetic sounds or a groove box. The arpeggiators hit the nail on the head with everything that has to do with bass-drum rhythms.
OVERALL OPINION
I've had it shortly, but use it intensively every day. It's easy, fast, effective, and gives you lots of ideas. It's easy to program, I don't use the plug-in anymore! As a soundcard, it's a bit complicated: It sometimes disappears when I reboot under XP. However, it has very low latency with USB MIDI. As a consequence, it's very practical with FL9 and Reaper, which are my main DAWs. Good dynamics as well. I don't regret anything. I hope it serves me well for a long time, because I can't afford a Motif.See less00 - zogood
Super arranger
Published on 01/24/13 at 06:54 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Workstation at very reasonable price (less than 900 €).
Obviously at that price, some concessions: no sampling and manufacturing 100% plastic (which still offers an advantage: this instrument weighs only 7 kg).
Conversely, some features may make the difference in the choice
- An arpeggiator that can run four separate parallel arpeggios,
- A loop sequencer sequencer and more linear (hence the name "Cause" for this family of workstations Yamaha)
- Audio inputs which, when the instrument is connected to your computer, turning it into audio capture card.
- Supplied with Cubase AI5, in case you have not already sequencer software, the MOX being used as a VSTi, a sound editor and 2 VS…Read moreWorkstation at very reasonable price (less than 900 €).
Obviously at that price, some concessions: no sampling and manufacturing 100% plastic (which still offers an advantage: this instrument weighs only 7 kg).
Conversely, some features may make the difference in the choice
- An arpeggiator that can run four separate parallel arpeggios,
- A loop sequencer sequencer and more linear (hence the name "Cause" for this family of workstations Yamaha)
- Audio inputs which, when the instrument is connected to your computer, turning it into audio capture card.
- Supplied with Cubase AI5, in case you have not already sequencer software, the MOX being used as a VSTi, a sound editor and 2 VSTi bonus gift (VA Prologue synthesizer and organ-YC 3B).
UTILIZATION
The first keyboard: The keyboard is semi-weighted glass as half full, there are always seeing the glass half empty. This keyboard has been widely criticized. This is certainly not what is best in the genre but it is still above many keyboards plastoc. I am a pianist rather organist at the origin, this may explain my indulgence. And if there is a MOX8, heavy keyboard 88 keys. Personally, I'm quite a fan of the intermediate form (73 or 76 keys) but unfortunately Marketing Yamaha had to decide that there was no longer any market for that MOX7 for MO7.
Controls live: it is a workstation so it is impossible to consider a model a "function - a button" but the instrument has an impressive number of buttons and knobs, to move from one loop to another, to modify the filter sound in real time, to move from a variation arpeggio to another, to change the tempo, etc.. In short, it is well thought out and essential needs live is very well covered. Attention, but no touch screen intelligent organization function keys in two rows on the screen.
Programming: there it is a bit complicated. Note that this is my first Yamaha Motif family so I was not at all familiar with their logic. It took me some time to get used to. The reference manual (available in pdf) is rather well done, if they have already notions: if you are a beginner synthesis, sequencer, etc., attention, it is not with this document you will learn bases. Other assistance: the site of Moessieurs Papaphoenix THE reference pattern.
While the number of levels of menus and sub-menus is limited, which is good, and there are few features that exceed a page screen, too. But the organization of functions is not very intuitive. And then there are the little things that annoy the computer I am. An example: In some screens, you have a parameter setting midi channel which can take the values 1 to 16 and over, while in others, you have a on / off switch on one side and a parameter that can take values of 1 to 16 for the other. One has the impression that he missed the team developing a nice little book of norms and standards!
Software is provided for programming the voices, ie the basic sounds (themselves composed of 1 to 8 elements partial). You can also find, purchase and download an editor performance (combinations of four voices) and a library manager at the site of John Melas. Good for him but a little shabby from Yamaha.
Apart from that, it's still a station that has many practical possibilities. For example, you can use the arpeggiator to record a loop or a linear sequence, you can save your sequences of loops to form a linear sequence, conversely, you can decompose a linear sequence in different loops, use a piece of sequence (loop or linear) to produce an arpeggio. In short, you can do everything and in every way. I also appreciate the separation sequence data itself and mix data that you can use a sequence to another, in whole or in part.
SOUNDS
It is therefore a workstation synthesizer general.
This is a digital synthesizer, not modeling.
This is not a ROMpler. All sounds are editable and you can also create your own sounds from waveforms available.
The overall quality is very good. For a senior like me, have such a quality less than 900 €, it's just incredible! I also noted positively that Yamaha has not played the card of abundance: there is no (or very little) duplicates. In each sub-category, each preset has its place.
To this must be added a library of preset arpeggios and well stocked for all types of instruments: piano, synths, guitars, bass, brass, strings, etc., which gives good ideas on how to use best sounding, either with itself or arpeggio in live performance.
The effects are also very good. I had to lower my use of reverb, very effective, and learn to be more subtle. The amp simulators are also excellent. Only downside: you are limited to three channels can accommodate insertion effects, which may be limited in some mixes.
Posting this notice, I waited to have enough in hand instruments and also the experience in rehearsal with a group. Well, I can tell you that my friends were quite impressed with what I could get.
OVERALL OPINION
I do not regret my choice because it suits my needs. I was not looking to sample. The sequencer loop frees me of the "straitjacket" of linear sequencer. I have a library of rich and arpeggios for all types of instruments. I do not record audio but I know that I now have a solution for when the urge to put my take.
I would have liked a semi-weighted keyboard with 73 or 76 keys, but also using a second keyboard, this limitation is overcome. 3-way limiting the maximum insertion effects sometimes requires juggling is the only real black my eyes.
This is not the workstation that can claim to be the mother ship of your professional home studio. To do this, we must change and move towards a range Motif XF or Kronos example. I employed rather as a brilliant coach (I also have a Clavia Nord Stage). I finally see the keyboard rather as the ultimate arranger.See less70 - Ouifi
Great gift idea: yamaha mox6
Published on 12/12/11 at 07:32 (This content has been automatically translated from French)I bought the digital piano yamaha mox6.
UTILIZATION
Product configuration is simple and has good ergonomics. To edit there is nothing easier, we really see a great technological advance.
SOUNDS
I am satisfied with the sound quality and I have plenty to do with my group and my apartment in 1200 with the integrated voice and sounds.
OVERALL OPINION
I bought this product because this product is easy to carry because of its lightness and there are all kinds of connectors. I can plug my USB key on it to record my first compositions. In other words, for the price, there are multitudes of possibilities with this product. I tried other models before but they were mu…Read moreI bought the digital piano yamaha mox6.
UTILIZATION
Product configuration is simple and has good ergonomics. To edit there is nothing easier, we really see a great technological advance.
SOUNDS
I am satisfied with the sound quality and I have plenty to do with my group and my apartment in 1200 with the integrated voice and sounds.
OVERALL OPINION
I bought this product because this product is easy to carry because of its lightness and there are all kinds of connectors. I can plug my USB key on it to record my first compositions. In other words, for the price, there are multitudes of possibilities with this product. I tried other models before but they were much less adaptable ... We must go on as they www.musicdiscount.com you a free quote and I had a week ago on the phone. It is not pro and cher.En any case I highly recommend this digital piano because it is comprehensive and goes very well in my little world ...See less15 - bonnaiga
MOX6: very good value for money!
Published on 12/30/11 at 05:31 (This content has been automatically translated from French)I use it in time for synthesizer / workstation / keyboard controller, microphone in my home studio enthusiast ...
It is connected:
- USB to my PC and acts as a sound card (with very good sound quality, I think) and MIDI interface.
- Via the audio outputs to a pair of powered monitors KRK Rokit5.
I do not (yet, anyway) expression pedal or sustain, but it can do.
I will not detail the characteristics, which are known and readily available ... Just a few things I like and others that I like least:
The "plus":
- Integration-audio USB MIDI and audio inputs (mic, line)
- Integration with Cubase AI, provided
- Editor software, very powerful
- Moderate weight (7 kg), which allow…Read moreI use it in time for synthesizer / workstation / keyboard controller, microphone in my home studio enthusiast ...
It is connected:
- USB to my PC and acts as a sound card (with very good sound quality, I think) and MIDI interface.
- Via the audio outputs to a pair of powered monitors KRK Rokit5.
I do not (yet, anyway) expression pedal or sustain, but it can do.
I will not detail the characteristics, which are known and readily available ... Just a few things I like and others that I like least:
The "plus":
- Integration-audio USB MIDI and audio inputs (mic, line)
- Integration with Cubase AI, provided
- Editor software, very powerful
- Moderate weight (7 kg), which allows me to easily move
- The variety and quality of sound and "arpeggios", from the Motif XS
The "less":
- The screen a bit limited in size and non-tactile
- The buttons and switches Bruille enough to use
- The lack of aftertouch (which is normal in this price range)
- The limited number of insert effects used simultaneously (3 blocks, which is already very well in this price range, but sometimes not enough for my needs)
Overall, regarding the characteristics, we largely pay for!
UTILIZATION
I was not familiar with Yamaha synths, but it did not take me long to know how to use basic functions: Voice mode, Performance mode, editing sounds to aid knobs, etc ...
For cons, I had a little trouble figuring out how to edit the in-depth performance (adjust the tone of each instrument, for example), despite the record. Once understood, it's pretty simple, but it was still necessary to find the logic ...
Pattern mode is flexible, easy to use and very powerful ...
Song mode, I still largely untapped, so I can not give an opinion.
Overall I would say that the use is fairly accessible, despite the limited size of the screen, but I prefer to go through the software publisher (ergonomic) to edit sounds or performance pattern mode or song mode.
SOUNDS
The sounds are excellent for my taste. I have not found a weakness in a particular category of sounds. It has all the power of a Motif XS, the limitations being that I already mentioned (3 blocks of insertion effects instead of 8 and no aftertouch). I had a Yamaha Tyros before the first generation and progression in terms of sound quality with MOX6 is obvious, even if the Tyros had already sounds very good.
Regarding the variety of sounds, y 'for every taste and every style of music: electro, rock, hip-hop, jazz, funk, classical, ambient, latin, etc..
The effects are very convincing, especially the VCM effects that really heat to sound.
The expression is good, the keyboard is semi-weighted. The pianists will find the training too light touch, but for me coming from the world of organ and arrangers, it is quite satisfactory. The dials and knobs allow easy control of the sound in real time.
For me, the sound quality is the best thing about this keyboard. I compared with those of in-store Korg M50 and I was more convinced by the MOX6.
In this price range, I consider the MOX6 close to perfection!
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for 4 months.
I compared it in store with its direct competitor, the Korg M50 (a bit older anyway). I have not tried the Roland Juno-G, another competitor, because the opinions were more mixed.
I chose the MOX6 mainly because of its audio / MIDI interface USB, the sound quality (subjective, I admit), the 4 arpeggiators (2 only on the M50) and the bundled software (Cubase AI5, etc.).
What I like least is the noise made by the buttons and switches (one gets used to it), and display much lower than that of M50.
With experience, I would do certainly this choice, because the characteristics that are more complete on the M50, sounds better (to my taste), and the few reviews I have finally made minor because they have little impact the musical result. For me, MOX6 represents the best quality / price current in that category of keyboards.See less50 - s3bog
Surprisingly good
Published on 07/07/11 at 07:04 (This content has been automatically translated from French)So I bought the MOX6 few days ago. It should be noted that I already have a Motif XS8 and Fantom G7.
The MOX6 does have the same sound engine as the Motif XS. And a synth 7Kg only is simply unheard of.
I will not give here the description of MOX or Motif, everybody knows, but the number of sounds and effects are very important. A clear nonetheless that the MOX6 includes a sound card and a MIDI connection via USB. A sound card at this price, it is once again incredible.
But this award and this weight has a consequence: a low-end finish in materials. Plastic, plastic, plastic, and especially a very poor keyboard on the Touch. When one has tasted the heavy touch of Motif XS8 keyboard or …Read moreSo I bought the MOX6 few days ago. It should be noted that I already have a Motif XS8 and Fantom G7.
The MOX6 does have the same sound engine as the Motif XS. And a synth 7Kg only is simply unheard of.
I will not give here the description of MOX or Motif, everybody knows, but the number of sounds and effects are very important. A clear nonetheless that the MOX6 includes a sound card and a MIDI connection via USB. A sound card at this price, it is once again incredible.
But this award and this weight has a consequence: a low-end finish in materials. Plastic, plastic, plastic, and especially a very poor keyboard on the Touch. When one has tasted the heavy touch of Motif XS8 keyboard or simply the Fantom G7, though not great, it really "toy".
Let us not forget also built a 16-track sequencer.
UTILIZATION
The main use for me, who already have a Motif XS, it's live and therefore the problem of transport. With a cover mode backpack, hop, MOX6 on the back. Admittedly, it's great to have such a rehearsal without even having to move his studio
Another positive point for a connoisseur of the Motif XS: access to sounds, effects, the various parameters in the split / layers of keyboard, etc.. is different. I say it's a good thing why? Simply because in a few days I discovered many new things I had not explored in this regard on my Motif. So I feel that the MOX6 helps me to discover a hidden part of the engine power of Reason.
Against by 2 points less for the screen and processing power of the synth. The black and white screen is exactly the same size as my old SY77 (for those who know what synth to more than 20 years). And when it registers sound or perf, wait 3-4 seconds with a progress bar! We feel that there is the economy behind it.
But it still takes away not much to this engine sounds only € 1000!
SOUNDS
I will not be very objective on this point since I'm a fan of the Motif XS. So obviously, the fan MOX6. For those who could not read what I wrote before, the same engine, same sounds, the same performance, the same effects.
So very good with me, pianist at the base, the best piano synths comparable 3: Motif XS / XF, Fantom G, and M3.
So realistic sounds, rich and powerful. For me the most versatile synth 3. But you can blame him to be the least typed.
OVERALL OPINION
3 days only with this synth including:
- Studio work: despite the small screen, great fun to explore sounds and synth effects with this. Good thinking though.
- Live: fabulous. Light, practical (split and layer directly accessible), small and powerful.
I am very happy with this purchase, I pushed for 1 month with my thinking to duplicate Motif XS. And in fact, I feel completely the opposite. They are further limited.
So to summarize:
- What I like least: the quality of key
- Quality / price ratio: unbeatable for me. I still can not believe you can have all the power of a Motif XS to € 1000!
Repeat this choice: YES!See less30 - Symphoniste borné
Still nothing new under the sun
Published on 08/11/11 at 16:54 (This content has been automatically translated from French)MOX 6
5 octaves
UTILIZATION
Simple configuration
Manual clear and abundant
Edit very easy
SOUNDS
Some sounds right for me and not others.
Good response but it is not enough for a good expression
OVERALL OPINION
I bought the 6 MOX attracted by the reputation of motif X and more than the weight (7 kg).
I speak especially of the musicality of the instrument. As for technical aspects, my colleagues speaking in this subject do very well.
I have worked for many years with Cubase using sounds that change in recent years has been dramatic: the Vienna strings, brass Tom project, the quality of pianos d'Ivoire not to mention the wonder of small Synfull. …Read moreMOX 6
5 octaves
UTILIZATION
Simple configuration
Manual clear and abundant
Edit very easy
SOUNDS
Some sounds right for me and not others.
Good response but it is not enough for a good expression
OVERALL OPINION
I bought the 6 MOX attracted by the reputation of motif X and more than the weight (7 kg).
I speak especially of the musicality of the instrument. As for technical aspects, my colleagues speaking in this subject do very well.
I have worked for many years with Cubase using sounds that change in recent years has been dramatic: the Vienna strings, brass Tom project, the quality of pianos d'Ivoire not to mention the wonder of small Synfull.
Being able to have a sequencer arranger-mobile was too tempting. I appreciate the ease and speed with which one can compose an arrangement, provided it is not too ambitious for the quality of the samples.
Indeed, I see that his level, Yamaha, except for drum sounds, the quality has not moved, or very little, for at least a decade.
The pianos are stunted and useless in single player. Just s'lls agreements are used to support. The strings can hide next to the Korg to 15 years ago, and controls to enhance the expression of the strings are still a distressing poverty (but this is a problem almost all of synths and players ropes). Aside from the drum and the combinatorial possibilities of the arpeggiator, I feel to play on an instrument of 90 years.
However, I keep it because it pulls me in mobile business.
The documentation is provided, but it suffers from major shortcomings for which he must fend for himself, especially at the multi-track recording and audio interface applications.See less40 - theocyanur
Great but ...
Published on 08/22/11 at 11:25 (This content has been automatically translated from French)Jai buy what yamaha synth with the IDE to create music for films.
Therefore I will judge the mox on these sounds, mainly orchestral and acoustic.
Jai was very scared when he saw the reviews on the touch, but once in both reassured: No worries on the touch to a person not used to a piano!
The user is less than PA500 Inuit: Inuit Korg has always t (KORG AX3000G ...)
UTILIZATION
Quite simple and intuitive. Small screen
Edit: Second day of use: The shortcut keys on the sequencer with real practices, we Apui mute, track number and hop ca mute, select and track number of track and went EST ect ...
I could fault limpossibilit denregistrer performance with the rest of lins…Read moreJai buy what yamaha synth with the IDE to create music for films.
Therefore I will judge the mox on these sounds, mainly orchestral and acoustic.
Jai was very scared when he saw the reviews on the touch, but once in both reassured: No worries on the touch to a person not used to a piano!
The user is less than PA500 Inuit: Inuit Korg has always t (KORG AX3000G ...)
UTILIZATION
Quite simple and intuitive. Small screen
Edit: Second day of use: The shortcut keys on the sequencer with real practices, we Apui mute, track number and hop ca mute, select and track number of track and went EST ect ...
I could fault limpossibilit denregistrer performance with the rest of linstrumentation registered before passing.
Also the sounds that are worse in the sequencer: Some lose its arpeggiator and effects. Even by regulating larpegiateur cest not easy dobtenir the same thing, big regret.
SOUNDS
klesa sounds ahhh sounds.
I am very mixed.
There is very good, flutes, saxes, voices, and ground plane / noise BISARD
BUT jai a deception on the sounds of the orchestra.
It's been a squeaker squeaker cot tappe of PA500 that the highlight of the cot.
In fact the PA500 and mox6 together with style!
Jai t seduced by the majority of sounds.
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for today.
I havent yet explored but jai test all sounds: It's hard!
I complete with either PA500 or kurzweil for orchestral sounds that are truly means, without bass ect ... shame.
But overall for me its a 9 / 10 especially for this price, I would do this choice!See less11 - sonic75
Top quality / price ratio
Published on 09/04/11 at 08:40 (This content has been automatically translated from French)For a small workstation like this, Yamaha has set the bar very high since the MOX6 to the same sound engine as the XS. Feature almost identical to the XS apart from the lack of sampling and the smaller screen. For the same price MOX6 is perfect!
UTILIZATION
Good ergonomics, as logic of the whole series of Motif. Damage to the screen a bit small though ...
SOUNDS
XS sounds so perfect. Very different but all very good.
OVERALL OPINION
I hesitated for a Roland Juno (IM or ID) and I do not regret my choice because in this product line is really a tone above his Nipponese concurrently at the sound quality. The only negative is the finish MOX "plastic" and keyboar…Read moreFor a small workstation like this, Yamaha has set the bar very high since the MOX6 to the same sound engine as the XS. Feature almost identical to the XS apart from the lack of sampling and the smaller screen. For the same price MOX6 is perfect!
UTILIZATION
Good ergonomics, as logic of the whole series of Motif. Damage to the screen a bit small though ...
SOUNDS
XS sounds so perfect. Very different but all very good.
OVERALL OPINION
I hesitated for a Roland Juno (IM or ID) and I do not regret my choice because in this product line is really a tone above his Nipponese concurrently at the sound quality. The only negative is the finish MOX "plastic" and keyboard cheap, too bad if it really is perfect. Excellent quality / price ratio.See less20 - Krisskano
To be continued
Published on 06/19/11 at 12:26 (This content has been automatically translated from French)I bought a MOX61 ... KRONOS pending and because I need a keyboard at the studio, cheap and efficient comprehensive ... to hold until 2012. The sets are planted, I unpack the beast of only 7 kg! The finish is good enough on the plastic one is just over a Bontempi 80 years ... But to release a mini XS-990 must be cut back on everything. The key is that everything is working properly. When the strength of the beast in time ... to see.
The good:
A plethora of controls on the keyboard, which control the DAW, VST's, manage audio input and audio output to USB. And yes there is an integrated sound card that can be used with the effects of MOX insert, test ...
UTILIZATION
The machine …Read moreI bought a MOX61 ... KRONOS pending and because I need a keyboard at the studio, cheap and efficient comprehensive ... to hold until 2012. The sets are planted, I unpack the beast of only 7 kg! The finish is good enough on the plastic one is just over a Bontempi 80 years ... But to release a mini XS-990 must be cut back on everything. The key is that everything is working properly. When the strength of the beast in time ... to see.
The good:
A plethora of controls on the keyboard, which control the DAW, VST's, manage audio input and audio output to USB. And yes there is an integrated sound card that can be used with the effects of MOX insert, test ...
UTILIZATION
The machine is easy to use, selection of sound, sequencer, arpégiators ... The interface is a bit small for my taste, and when he must go through the menus, better get used to synths Yam.
SOUNDS
Good sounds are there and for me it is essential. Yam it lacks a bit of ground "plans" and convincing way. Guitars and keyboards are to die for, the effect section to make the most of the EP.
I like the ease of dealing with the help of over 6000 phrases included.
I hate the lack of uniformity in the dynamic programming, one sound to another level is changing dramatically, obviously, this would rule quickly. Some splits its totally unbalanced for my taste.
But that does not sound quality to be at the meeting. Mixing the sounds very easily between them.
OVERALL OPINION
Wait a few months to update this opinion ...See less30