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  • Very good map, although controversial.

    E-MU 1616M PCIPublié le 12/27/12 à 08:56
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    Hello,

    technical characteristics that motivated the choice: the price / performance ratio announced, the number of inputs, built-in effects, the brand, I did not know at the time that E-MU was bought by creative labs.

    external instruments connected to it are:
    1 Behringer UMX 490 USB Keyboard 61 keys connected USB 2 on the PC.
    1 Keyboard USB M-Audio Axiom 25 USB 2 connected to the PC.
    AKAI EWI 1 EWIUSB connected USB 2 on the PC.
    1 pedal midi (noon 5 pin plug) (low organ pedal) connected to the midi-in micro-dock E-MU
    1 electric bass in Mic 2 micro-dock E-MU
    1 Shure SM58 mic input 1 microphone-dock E-MU
    And it all works together

    What system: a PC mounted home today......
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    Hello,

    technical characteristics that motivated the choice: the price / performance ratio announced, the number of inputs, built-in effects, the brand, I did not know at the time that E-MU was bought by creative labs.

    external instruments connected to it are:
    1 Behringer UMX 490 USB Keyboard 61 keys connected USB 2 on the PC.
    1 Keyboard USB M-Audio Axiom 25 USB 2 connected to the PC.
    AKAI EWI 1 EWIUSB connected USB 2 on the PC.
    1 pedal midi (noon 5 pin plug) (low organ pedal) connected to the midi-in micro-dock E-MU
    1 electric bass in Mic 2 micro-dock E-MU
    1 Shure SM58 mic input 1 microphone-dock E-MU
    And it all works together

    What system: a PC mounted home today is Asrock motherboard that I highly recommend (forget ASUS, MSI, I tried everything from long Asrock is the best). USB3 SATA3, video card (ATI) integrated. 2 SSD 120 GB each. 16 GB of RAM, no swap file (pagefile). All integrated in a flight case with an old 15-inch LCD monitor integrated additional graphics card with 2 video outputs external monitor to put a + great at home when I bump sounds, and receive a 2nd output to video projector the scene, already tested with a small video projector. Otherwise I have everything plugged into the same flight case:
    Micro-dock connection (RJ45 + 48 Volt 4 outlets USB2, USB3 4 outlets, 5 outlets power supply, 9 volt power ... what you want, stomp, recorder, etc. ... it avoids lug adapters or batteries

    For what purpose: rehearsals and scenes. I use Ableton Live, tracks routed via ASIO PatchMix this E-MU PCI1616. For now I have about a dozen MIDI tracks in Ableton Live, Reason in rewire routed with 5 instruments mentioned above, and some tracks wav, Reason for return and also for pre-recorded sequences sonos WAV format on the PC. I think up to thirty tracks for a few months, or +. I also have a pedal that I made from a circuit recovered in a PC keyboard that I adapted to put electrical switches (to RCS) foot so connected to the PC via USB, to control Ableton sequences.
    The CPU is an AMD 3.6 GHz 8 cores. We located not too expensive today.

    I appreciate being able to route subsets of "slices" of Ableton Live 6 outputs to a mono) microphone-dock.

    UTILIZATION

    Drivers: I think this is the weak point of the whole, but I ended up finding various W7 64 and it works fine, no crashes, even after 3 hours of intensive use Again, in an overheated room.
    not updated, followed quite low from E-MU (Creative Labs), I think their team DEV else to do .. and it's a shame, but I do not have a problem , it's okay.

    Software: I wrote High at the top of the stack is Ableton Live, below is found rewire, Reason 5 and other software, such as the saxophone EWI. I will try other software in a short time.

    How many tracks: Well, it's clear, I do not register with this configuration. To save, I have a standalone digital recorder Zoom R24 (24 tracks with 8 recordable simultaneously) which works very well and is not expensive at all (I highly recommend). Cons by reading I read about a fortnight tracks no worries, I'm sure to exceed fifty, at least for MIDI and 7 or 8 mode wav.

    Latency: Topic poorly understood and controversial. There is software to test it. For me, this is the time lag between when I press a key on the keyboard (or breath in EWI) and when the sound comes from the speakers. This is what counts as a musician. And you should know that it depends not only on the sound card ... I use ASIO drivers provided by E-MU, and I have no noticeable latency (and I'm demanding on this point), even with multiple MIDI tracks / rewire playing and two keyboards simultaneously with 4 agreements notes each. The E-MU has much to do, but also PC config, especially the 3.6 GHz CPU 8 cores and 16 GB of RAM. Board, it is better a 4 cores at 3.5 GHz or 3.6 that 8 cores at 2.9 GHz (if it exists). CPU speed plays a lot of latency.

    For example, I'm impressed with the bass, I get low on micro-dock driving directions from PatchMix to Ableton Live on a track wav, I added 3 vst effects (Preamp tubes, cabinet simulation HP, reverb) , reroute everything to an input of Patchmix Host Asio. And when I play a note on the bass, I do not perceive any latency. It's as if I was plugged directly into the amp.

    GETTING STARTED

    Installation: Nothing to say, except to find the right drivers. ==> Do not forget to disable in the BIOS the onboard sound card on the motherboard, it can disrupt serious ....

    Configuration: At the beginning it is quite confusing, read the manual, and we understand little by little, it is a long experiment, I think it might be a little + intuitive. But the hardest part is to understand the music software that you will use, and make them work with the E-MU 1616. Ableton, I still find it hard to dip some aspects, but it just must READ the doc several times if necessary.

    Incompatibilities: No, no, as stated above +, disable in the BIOS the internal sound card and it runs .... if you have the right drivers.

    Manual: relatively clear. For cons, I struggled to find where it is written that if one uses a sampling frequency higher than 44.1/48 Mhz ..... Effects integrated into the sound card does not work any more. this is bad, it made me mad, it is nowhere stated before purchase. This is handy built-in effects, it consumes zero CPU.

    OVERALL OPINION

    I use it for 3 or 4 years.

    I have not tried other external sound cards previously only integrated sound card for motherboards.

    what I like least: The integrated effects that do not work at 88.2 MHz (sax my software runs at this frequency). It is almost prohibitive, but I did not know before purchasing.

    what I love most: imperceptible latency with a good PC, the software Patchmix is ​​very well done, the doc not so bad.

    price / quality ratio: No picture, it is definitely worth the price!

    Yes I would do this choice, despite the problem that effects only work 44.1 MHz. For higher frequencies, we can circumvent the problem by inserting external effects hardwares, but must spend + .....
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  • must vanish from the subsidiary PRO

    E-MU 1616M PCIPublié le 01/31/12 à 16:36
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice?
    I do not know it was a big card and full opportunity ect ..

    With which the instruments or systems do you use?
    measured for only a micro, xp, seven.

    For what purpose?
    music not mix and acoustic measurement which is not much

    What is your config (Motherboard / CPU / RAM / Disk ,...)?
    big gamer kind of config: SSD, 2GB RAM, E8500 cpu ect ..

    UTILIZATION

    The drivers are stable?
    it does not even give me want to laugh

    What software do you use most often?
    no

    How many tracks you get to record / play simultaneously?
    never

    Are they updated frequently?
    update and reinstall every time

    What you get lag?
    no idea......
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice?
    I do not know it was a big card and full opportunity ect ..

    With which the instruments or systems do you use?
    measured for only a micro, xp, seven.

    For what purpose?
    music not mix and acoustic measurement which is not much

    What is your config (Motherboard / CPU / RAM / Disk ,...)?
    big gamer kind of config: SSD, 2GB RAM, E8500 cpu ect ..

    UTILIZATION

    The drivers are stable?
    it does not even give me want to laugh

    What software do you use most often?
    no

    How many tracks you get to record / play simultaneously?
    never

    Are they updated frequently?
    update and reinstall every time

    What you get lag?
    no idea

    GETTING STARTED

    The installation is done it without problems?
    yes

    Have you encountered any incompatibilities?
    I lost all these problems I think it's me that is not compatible

    The general configuration is easy?
    yes

    The manual is clear and sufficient? ...
    yes

    OVERALL OPINION

    How long have you use it?
    + 4 years of use

    Have you tried many other models before buying it?
    No, the first sound card

    What is so special that you love the most, least?
    irrelevant now

    How would you rate the quality / price?
    no picture I do have

    With experience, you do again this choice?
    I do not want to hear about E-MU never ever
    if I made a gift of crap I slay with a hammer.

    I regret the day or the sound card came into my life four years of fighting is too much after that if someone buys this brand sound card and bin there will be problems when it deserves to be ignored
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  • very good interface

    E-MU 1616M PCIPublié le 12/21/11 à 04:52
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    I speak of PCIe, the pramp, the dock dport.
    pc, and plug ing SAW reaper

    Windows 7 64-bit.

    UTILIZATION

    perfect for what I do.

    soft reaper, Komplet 8 and plug-in.

    GETTING STARTED

    yes, but the same problem as all the cards that allow routing in all directions ... .. to understand, and me .. and I have the brain can not be adapted ..!

    OVERALL OPINION

    quality-price ratio, correct.
    no problem of stability never had a bug ...
    I also have a 9632 rm on another pc, the rms best latency; 3ms.la emu .. 6 ms;
    otherwise, no diffrence notorious.
    buy without risk. ...
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    I speak of PCIe, the pramp, the dock dport.
    pc, and plug ing SAW reaper

    Windows 7 64-bit.

    UTILIZATION

    perfect for what I do.

    soft reaper, Komplet 8 and plug-in.

    GETTING STARTED

    yes, but the same problem as all the cards that allow routing in all directions ... .. to understand, and me .. and I have the brain can not be adapted ..!

    OVERALL OPINION

    quality-price ratio, correct.
    no problem of stability never had a bug ...
    I also have a 9632 rm on another pc, the rms best latency; 3ms.la emu .. 6 ms;
    otherwise, no diffrence notorious.
    buy without risk.
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  • Amateurism Confirmed

    E-MU 1616M PCIPublié le 12/21/08 à 06:49
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice?
    ADDED 14/08/2010: More than a year and a half after my first opinion, know that I stand by everything that follows. E-MU is a bunch of amateurs. Proof Now: NO DRIVER FOR WINDOWS SEVEN IS STILL AVAILABLE TO DATE. It's pro, right? Mind you, given the quality of their drivers that is perhaps better that way .... A word, hello! (MOTU VIVE!)

    I bought this card which offers high quality converters and pre-amp micro totally reliable and an array of input and output for the comprehensive range of price (449 euros). ASIO 2, integrated 32-bit DSP ... In short, a creature ttrès very attractive for a small portfolio like mine. To have as rich......
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice?
    ADDED 14/08/2010: More than a year and a half after my first opinion, know that I stand by everything that follows. E-MU is a bunch of amateurs. Proof Now: NO DRIVER FOR WINDOWS SEVEN IS STILL AVAILABLE TO DATE. It's pro, right? Mind you, given the quality of their drivers that is perhaps better that way .... A word, hello! (MOTU VIVE!)

    I bought this card which offers high quality converters and pre-amp micro totally reliable and an array of input and output for the comprehensive range of price (449 euros). ASIO 2, integrated 32-bit DSP ... In short, a creature ttrès very attractive for a small portfolio like mine. To have as rich caractéritiques among the best manufacturers, we must at least double the price ...

    For what purpose?

    Exclusively computer music.

    What is your config (Motherboard / CPU / Ram / Hard ,...)?

    ASRock Wolfdale1333-GLAN / M
    Intel Dual Core E2140@1.60gHz
    3gb RAM

    With which instruments or systems to use you?

    No nstruments direct vocal mic, and everything else controlled by plugins midi keyboard instruments.

    UTILIZATION

    The installation is done it without problems?

    Installation could not be simpler. You open your PC, you spit the card into a PCI slot, the PC is closed, it reliela catre Internal Dock with External using a digital interface cable provided, insert the installation CD and LZE voila.

    Have you experienced any incompatibilities?
    Problems, oh yes! (But I will discuss later). I do not know exactly with what this card is incompatible ... Perhaps with all that is not at Creative. For those who do not know it yet, E-MU is the professional sector. Finally, "professional" they are the ones who say ...

    The general configuration is easy?
    Very. Everything is made from PatchMix that is taken in hand very quickly.

    The manual is clear and sufficient?
    The rapid manual paper will not teach you much unless you start in the cartesontologie, and the full manual. Pdf aptly named: it is comprehensive and clear. And well translated, which is not the case ... Toujouse

    GETTING STARTED

    Here, I would not follow the order of questions, since I use have not been. The sound card produces clacs so strong in my monitors and my headphones that I refused to turn them on for longer when you know the price of these things. So the headphones I tried in vain to solve this seemingly intractable problem, technical support E-MU pitiful who knows even less than me and that is one week to respond to each mail ( which means they probably are overwhelmed ...) was unable to help me in any way. Other than uninstalling and reinstalling the sound card on forever, or to optimize my PC by reducing the maximum occupancy of the processor, that any beginner computer music already knows and is a long time.
    For those who have already dealt with Creative, I think they will absolutely not be surprised if I venture to suggest that the problem of their equipment is usually not on this technology because there they are very competitive, but the quality of their drivers that are absolutely null and updated once every 36 months. It is certainly a technical and physical configuration peculiar to run their products, which is much more restrictive than the apparent universality of what they offer.

    OVERALL OPINION

    How long have you use it?
    It's been a month since I am struggling with.

    What is so special that you like most and least?
    Pros: very complete
    Cons: uh, it's no use to be full of drivers with more than rotten

    Have you tried many other models before buying it?
    it would indeed be great to try this kind of stuff before buying it because I would not have made that mistake ...

    How would you rate the quality / price?
    It's the biggest trap of this card. We believe in one unbeatable value for money, and ultimately the only thing that remains with you is the price.

    With experience, you do again this choice?
    Never, never! I'm going to E-MU disparître my horizon and I finally turn to brands unfortunately much more expensive, but that does not make us laugh when we read "Professional" on the carton.
    I highly recommend this card to anyone who wants to work peacefully.
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  • Anonymous

    E-MU 1616M PCIPublié le 01/02/09 à 13:38
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    This card is a bomb and sounds decidedly pro. (Pro-tools. ..). For the time being heard anything better. It is perfectly stable home. As the 1212M elsewhere. I work in IT and mao and should understand that some hardware conflicts in a computer can create artifacts, it comes from the chipset, memory, graphics card etc .... the previous opinion is completely unjustified (it does not work with me ... it sucks). I would not change a converter for high-end dedicated (not the apogee by the way).

    UTILIZATION

    Ras

    GETTING STARTED

    Ras the first version of the drivers was perfectly stable, unlike my first m-audio delta 66 years ago. It took a while at least one year of development at the......
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    This card is a bomb and sounds decidedly pro. (Pro-tools. ..). For the time being heard anything better. It is perfectly stable home. As the 1212M elsewhere. I work in IT and mao and should understand that some hardware conflicts in a computer can create artifacts, it comes from the chipset, memory, graphics card etc .... the previous opinion is completely unjustified (it does not work with me ... it sucks). I would not change a converter for high-end dedicated (not the apogee by the way).

    UTILIZATION

    Ras

    GETTING STARTED

    Ras the first version of the drivers was perfectly stable, unlike my first m-audio delta 66 years ago. It took a while at least one year of development at the time that it turns ...

    OVERALL OPINION

    Missing just two or three more INs
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  • E-MU 1616M PCIPublié le 07/20/09 à 08:51
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice?
    A complete resolution map which possesses a complete connection (RCA / Jack / ADAT / XLR / SPDIF) but not be in short supply for my type of use (ONLY 2XLR/jack level in mic). Otherwise, the preamps are worth being listened without a good map submitted REM. The 48V power supply, SPDIF, ADAT, the headphone are placed so as to be accessible rapidementen facade (always handy for migrants)

    For what purpose?
    I use it for my computer music but also just registered for the group (I use a card recess A / D complicate everything else came in). This card is not compatible ProTool recess, but enough (thank you god) has run a cubase which lends......
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    What characteristics have motivated your choice?
    A complete resolution map which possesses a complete connection (RCA / Jack / ADAT / XLR / SPDIF) but not be in short supply for my type of use (ONLY 2XLR/jack level in mic). Otherwise, the preamps are worth being listened without a good map submitted REM. The 48V power supply, SPDIF, ADAT, the headphone are placed so as to be accessible rapidementen facade (always handy for migrants)

    For what purpose?
    I use it for my computer music but also just registered for the group (I use a card recess A / D complicate everything else came in). This card is not compatible ProTool recess, but enough (thank you god) has run a cubase which lends itself particularly well to the machine. Any other use is the madness of genius or else!

    With what tools or systems you use it? ...
    Korg 880 A / D

    UTILIZATION

    The drivers are stable?
    This is where the bottom lies. Can we talk about driver for this kind of thing. I gave a VERY days and too many times to my system that my card working again as the first day. Hours of work lost or even killed by an inelegant click on the slopes. And we do not acknowledge ANY cubase since the app I've tested the defect was present! Map slap sometimes I do not know why and eventually cut. On the VAS after the creative is that I'm too stupid to make an update. So dear chouwap ( https://fr.audiofanzine.com/membres/a.play,u.77919.html ) I'm sorry to tell you but your opinion is worth no more than another (it works with me ... it's cool) because here is two people who now complain of this defect.

    They are often updated?
    Often updated would really move ... I would say often enough but not good corrections ^ ^

    What latency you get?
    And there, the map takes its interest: latency that descends on a between 3ms and 25ms when she was up and overused. And this is what we would see everywhere!

    How many tracks do you manage to record / playback simultaneously? ...
    Or 16 of his name I think. but let us not forget that the South could be useful (sorry, I do've never used this card)

    GETTING STARTED

    The installation is done it without problems?
    In a rare simplicity, and very pleasant (I'm an every 3 months but ...)

    Have you experienced any incompatibilities?
    I think the problem I encounter, and eltibosor ( https://fr.audiofanzine.com/membres/a.play,u.414555.html ) are due to incompabilités, but what? the issue remains unresolved. I am however in a reliable and clean but still have same problem has almost interval regulation that knows me so well spoil life and my zicoss.

    The general configuration is easy?
    To a person unaccustomed to hard digi patch, this phase may proved a little perieuse but quite surmountable as long as it gets stuck for some time. Personally, one hour tour of the configuration was a fact, so no big deal

    The manual is clear and sufficient? ...
    A simple manual and clear, but as complete as we would like to see more often in Concur.

    OVERALL OPINION

    For how long have you been using it?
    Now two years, I would say 2months SAV, 1 month and re-install if all they are cummulative.

    What thing do you like most/least about it?
    Connectivity and a wide and varied with large latency playing cards.

    Did you try many other models before getting this one?
    RME Audio Fireface 800
    DIGIDESIGN DIGI 001
    YAMAHA DS2416
    MOTU 1224

    What is your opinion about the value for the price?
    good if I find the solution to this snag. But if you're lucky enough not to be affected, the ratio Q / P is very good

    Knowing what you know now, would you make the same choice? ...
    No I do not think I lack all the same output regularly to quench the thirst of his during my zicoss recorded "live" (although I know there is the ADAT card) and still getting this famous problem of click or extinction
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