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Published on 06/02/07 at 00:08
Value For Money :
Excellent
I'll add a few small additions to the opinion of the PM. 
I am through the small order of the two HB he had in hand!
Two buddies from work who wanted a cheap little guitar for beginners, or at worst to decorate the wall of the toilet if they abandoned en route.
For 88 euros, a small electro-acoustic, siouplaît, it could match.
Of course, having absolutely no confidence in this type of product ultra cheap, I asked PM to do the job: control, checking of guitars upon arrival, and a big job to make them acceptable and playable:
- Thorough cleaning of the button, colored by a pig, and gleefully rubbing off on the fingers to the first slide.
- Polishing the frets, put a bit anyhow, and damn protruding edge of key.
- Fix the nut in plastoc, also asked the haphazard.
- Installation of a real set of strings (a set of new ropes and clean was not a luxury, although it strikes the budget, given the price of shovels).
For specs, see the opinion of the PM.
By far, they are especially crisp. Up close, it's still a different story:
- Finish the punch, the binding edge key with random streaks of varnish, and a task of unknown origin on the sidelines.
- Various breads on one of two guitars. For a new model, it is rather strange.
- Varnish that could benefit from a little more care, it is at once farted in swirls (see photos in the notice of PM.). we would say guitars already worn!
- Dam slaughtered for trussrod.
- Plastic true at every level.
- Traces of glue.
- Mechanical totally inaccurate and erratic. And who do not agree well (but the fart MECAS quality is above double the price of the guitar, and it would jam up the pigs, since the rest of the service plastoc).
- Etc.
At this price, do not ask for the moon. But it is curious that "quality" hyper random between two models, however Siamese.
Put a note does not seem to be easy. In absolute terms, it is still good early dung flashy. But for the price, closing his eyes a little, and spending time on it to finish the build ...
Thank you to PM for the job! It's good to have a luthier friend
UTILIZATION
<p class="bbcode-cite"> % 1 $ <span>Ergonomics</span> his writing <span>is that of a dreadnought cutaway, neither more nor less
The handle is quite round but it's going.
Access to acute, it's still a sound so do not be afraid of the heel and sustain more than limited
The action is immediately set correctly on the two models tested, although it could be better from the 12th fret
The rating is as good ergonomics is good!</span>
No more!
The handle is really acceptable, not a beam that would kill any motivation for a beginner.
Out of the box, it really is not bright, not really totally unplayable, but still particularly off-putting.
With a lot of work and finishing settings before playing, it changes everything.
SOUNDS
Acoustics, b'en ... There's the sound. Clearly, not expect any magic with it.
Finally, if the magic is that it is not yet party to pieces!
The sound is quite balanced indeed.
Pluggée hyper quickly my little preamp Art GST (even the high end luxury! ) B'en There's the sound. The original battery works!
It blows a little, the presence control is very ... subtle.
Nothing transcendent, nothing memorable. But it works.
Addition, 02/06/2007: B'en comparing to small acoustic Cort and Yamaha low end, it is nothing in the bag, the Harley Benton! A small thin voice and shy, any size, a poor sound projection. Mebon, 88 euros (leitmotif).
Added 07/11/2010: It is aging badly. One of the two guitars is no longer used as decoration, it has become unplayable and totally false wood crate so moved, but one that sounded the least wrong to begin with. The handle is twisted ...
The other is still almost playable (it still does not agree, we must play MECAS every 5 minutes). The sound is just as bad, sound projection 0, 0 scale, 0 down, 0 sustain the preamp hiss.
OVERALL OPINION
As, out of the box for a beginner and not finished handyman, it should not be joy, in my opinion. Flashy but not pleasant.
With a little work on it, it becomes very acceptable, but the bill increases accordingly. The game vaut'il the candle for a beginner not handy? I have a doubt.
However, knowing hacking, cracking in the 88 euros can be largely justified, when one wants to be a return to sound after years of power with a tiny budget. Passe-partout/baroudeuse guitar or campfires.
Do not expect the moon, it was worth the money: 88 euros. And for 88 euros, an electro-acoustic, it's still incredibly cheap.
But while it's still a hell of an even lottery, it can fall on a model drinking like a dung over ...
Added 07/11/2010: Since one of the two abandoned the horrible zik, the other continues, and bought a Lag Tramontane, far more enjoyable to play.
In short, it's really bad, ultimately, the only reason to buy this kind of instrument, for a beginner, not wanting to invest in the beginning, not knowing whether to continue or not, and n 'having no friends around them ready to give them a little guitar to be done by hand. I see no other motivation to buy that stuff 6-string.
I am through the small order of the two HB he had in hand!
Two buddies from work who wanted a cheap little guitar for beginners, or at worst to decorate the wall of the toilet if they abandoned en route.
For 88 euros, a small electro-acoustic, siouplaît, it could match.
Of course, having absolutely no confidence in this type of product ultra cheap, I asked PM to do the job: control, checking of guitars upon arrival, and a big job to make them acceptable and playable:
- Thorough cleaning of the button, colored by a pig, and gleefully rubbing off on the fingers to the first slide.
- Polishing the frets, put a bit anyhow, and damn protruding edge of key.
- Fix the nut in plastoc, also asked the haphazard.
- Installation of a real set of strings (a set of new ropes and clean was not a luxury, although it strikes the budget, given the price of shovels).
For specs, see the opinion of the PM.
By far, they are especially crisp. Up close, it's still a different story:
- Finish the punch, the binding edge key with random streaks of varnish, and a task of unknown origin on the sidelines.
- Various breads on one of two guitars. For a new model, it is rather strange.
- Varnish that could benefit from a little more care, it is at once farted in swirls (see photos in the notice of PM.). we would say guitars already worn!
- Dam slaughtered for trussrod.
- Plastic true at every level.
- Traces of glue.
- Mechanical totally inaccurate and erratic. And who do not agree well (but the fart MECAS quality is above double the price of the guitar, and it would jam up the pigs, since the rest of the service plastoc).
- Etc.
At this price, do not ask for the moon. But it is curious that "quality" hyper random between two models, however Siamese.
Put a note does not seem to be easy. In absolute terms, it is still good early dung flashy. But for the price, closing his eyes a little, and spending time on it to finish the build ...
Thank you to PM for the job! It's good to have a luthier friend
UTILIZATION
<p class="bbcode-cite"> % 1 $ <span>Ergonomics</span> his writing <span>is that of a dreadnought cutaway, neither more nor less
The handle is quite round but it's going.
Access to acute, it's still a sound so do not be afraid of the heel and sustain more than limited
The action is immediately set correctly on the two models tested, although it could be better from the 12th fret
The rating is as good ergonomics is good!</span>
No more!
The handle is really acceptable, not a beam that would kill any motivation for a beginner.
Out of the box, it really is not bright, not really totally unplayable, but still particularly off-putting.
With a lot of work and finishing settings before playing, it changes everything.
SOUNDS
Acoustics, b'en ... There's the sound. Clearly, not expect any magic with it.
Finally, if the magic is that it is not yet party to pieces!
The sound is quite balanced indeed.
Pluggée hyper quickly my little preamp Art GST (even the high end luxury! ) B'en There's the sound. The original battery works!
It blows a little, the presence control is very ... subtle.
Nothing transcendent, nothing memorable. But it works.
Addition, 02/06/2007: B'en comparing to small acoustic Cort and Yamaha low end, it is nothing in the bag, the Harley Benton! A small thin voice and shy, any size, a poor sound projection. Mebon, 88 euros (leitmotif).
Added 07/11/2010: It is aging badly. One of the two guitars is no longer used as decoration, it has become unplayable and totally false wood crate so moved, but one that sounded the least wrong to begin with. The handle is twisted ...
The other is still almost playable (it still does not agree, we must play MECAS every 5 minutes). The sound is just as bad, sound projection 0, 0 scale, 0 down, 0 sustain the preamp hiss.
OVERALL OPINION
As, out of the box for a beginner and not finished handyman, it should not be joy, in my opinion. Flashy but not pleasant.
With a little work on it, it becomes very acceptable, but the bill increases accordingly. The game vaut'il the candle for a beginner not handy? I have a doubt.
However, knowing hacking, cracking in the 88 euros can be largely justified, when one wants to be a return to sound after years of power with a tiny budget. Passe-partout/baroudeuse guitar or campfires.
Do not expect the moon, it was worth the money: 88 euros. And for 88 euros, an electro-acoustic, it's still incredibly cheap.
But while it's still a hell of an even lottery, it can fall on a model drinking like a dung over ...
Added 07/11/2010: Since one of the two abandoned the horrible zik, the other continues, and bought a Lag Tramontane, far more enjoyable to play.
In short, it's really bad, ultimately, the only reason to buy this kind of instrument, for a beginner, not wanting to invest in the beginning, not knowing whether to continue or not, and n 'having no friends around them ready to give them a little guitar to be done by hand. I see no other motivation to buy that stuff 6-string.