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A Standard for the control ... ....
Published on 11/30/14 at 11:36 (This content has been automatically translated from French)These small speakers are found in many of its audiovisual mounting boards, music for picture. This is clearly above the range of small or MSP5 Yamaha HS5 that also crosses time timeframe for the rules mowed.
mine just radio France.
I wanted to have the same listening than I had sound design studio used (although in other rooms we had in 1030)
It was necessary that the budget does not exceed that amount too.
good 4 "and 2x20watts is very good for the assembly, Logging, clean voice, film music mixer etc ... for the compo is not very rock n roll ... they lack a little low for that. For dj ç'est clearly insufficient.
But for small compact speakers are the only with Adam A3X and...…
mine just radio France.
I wanted to have the same listening than I had sound design studio used (although in other rooms we had in 1030)
It was necessary that the budget does not exceed that amount too.
good 4 "and 2x20watts is very good for the assembly, Logging, clean voice, film music mixer etc ... for the compo is not very rock n roll ... they lack a little low for that. For dj ç'est clearly insufficient.
But for small compact speakers are the only with Adam A3X and...…
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These small speakers are found in many of its audiovisual mounting boards, music for picture. This is clearly above the range of small or MSP5 Yamaha HS5 that also crosses time timeframe for the rules mowed.
mine just radio France.
I wanted to have the same listening than I had sound design studio used (although in other rooms we had in 1030)
It was necessary that the budget does not exceed that amount too.
good 4 "and 2x20watts is very good for the assembly, Logging, clean voice, film music mixer etc ... for the compo is not very rock n roll ... they lack a little low for that. For dj ç'est clearly insufficient.
But for small compact speakers are the only with Adam A3X and Focal CMS40 me seemed to have enough. I preferred the focal Genelec, very precise working tools but a little tiring and unpleasant.
- I would say that Adam and KRK are better for musicians: an unflattering beautiful sound in the pleasant basn to compose and submix /
- The Genelec are in between my ears
- Most accurate focals to mix, but not very pleasant to deal ...
SOUNDS
Optimal working comfort, the mids and highs are not too garish and they do not tire the ear like yamaha (it's not the same range either)
It should not be too push anyway.
A priori, sound mixers ingestion reproach them too low (sic)
musicians and producers and even more are already on the contrary they do not déscenendent enough ...
I recall that there are 4 small switch precisely to reduce the bass.
Because for a mix will require a more faithful listening to bottom, then cut or sub 50hz ...
I think they are a good compromise; but it is true that for some they lack bass, and for others they flatter them can be a bit ...
OVERALL OPINION
I use them for 3 years at home.
Before I used in 1029 and 1030, the Yamaha NS10M, and MSP5 HS5, the ditton Celestion (stereo model)
I would have them added a subwoofer if one of the two had not lach me. EN seeking possible causes on the net I found that this was not an isolated case, and I think it happens a little too often for the material that price.
Therefore it is likely that I would turn me into Genelec.
It is likely that I move into the CMS40 focal or adam, that have good reputations for music We'll see how it behaves sav ...
I do not pass this incident on my bill but it seems to me that this power supply outage too frequent deserves to be mentioned (I have never encountered failures of this type on any of my other machines even sure my first console behringer MX16 qi is still a tank ...)
In conclusion, the speaker range is the vital minimum to begin working with comfort.
Some electro musicians fond of KRK Rokit, that flatter a little down, it's probably nice to compose, but I think these genelecs and focals remain tools of a higher level, a pity that the reliability is not best for the 8020 ...
mine just radio France.
I wanted to have the same listening than I had sound design studio used (although in other rooms we had in 1030)
It was necessary that the budget does not exceed that amount too.
good 4 "and 2x20watts is very good for the assembly, Logging, clean voice, film music mixer etc ... for the compo is not very rock n roll ... they lack a little low for that. For dj ç'est clearly insufficient.
But for small compact speakers are the only with Adam A3X and Focal CMS40 me seemed to have enough. I preferred the focal Genelec, very precise working tools but a little tiring and unpleasant.
- I would say that Adam and KRK are better for musicians: an unflattering beautiful sound in the pleasant basn to compose and submix /
- The Genelec are in between my ears
- Most accurate focals to mix, but not very pleasant to deal ...
SOUNDS
Optimal working comfort, the mids and highs are not too garish and they do not tire the ear like yamaha (it's not the same range either)
It should not be too push anyway.
A priori, sound mixers ingestion reproach them too low (sic)
musicians and producers and even more are already on the contrary they do not déscenendent enough ...
I recall that there are 4 small switch precisely to reduce the bass.
Because for a mix will require a more faithful listening to bottom, then cut or sub 50hz ...
I think they are a good compromise; but it is true that for some they lack bass, and for others they flatter them can be a bit ...
OVERALL OPINION
I use them for 3 years at home.
Before I used in 1029 and 1030, the Yamaha NS10M, and MSP5 HS5, the ditton Celestion (stereo model)
I would have them added a subwoofer if one of the two had not lach me. EN seeking possible causes on the net I found that this was not an isolated case, and I think it happens a little too often for the material that price.
Therefore it is likely that I would turn me into Genelec.
It is likely that I move into the CMS40 focal or adam, that have good reputations for music We'll see how it behaves sav ...
I do not pass this incident on my bill but it seems to me that this power supply outage too frequent deserves to be mentioned (I have never encountered failures of this type on any of my other machines even sure my first console behringer MX16 qi is still a tank ...)
In conclusion, the speaker range is the vital minimum to begin working with comfort.
Some electro musicians fond of KRK Rokit, that flatter a little down, it's probably nice to compose, but I think these genelecs and focals remain tools of a higher level, a pity that the reliability is not best for the 8020 ...
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solo84
Listening "client" or control
Published on 06/30/12 at 09:22 (This content has been automatically translated from French)I found secondhand at 300EUR pair in perfect condition, which is a bargain!
I listen to high-end (Adam S3X) and I wanted an alternative listening a little hi-fi and more representative of a consumer grade! They meet my expectations beyond my expectations!
SOUNDS
Actually the sound is already amazing for tapping of this size and this price!
The pros: the dynamics is correct, the mediums are fine, the stereo is fairly accurate
The -: of course the bass is a little invasive and imprecise, and the highs are underrepresented
For their price they are great!
OVERALL OPINION
In summary we can say that the sound is rather flattering, warm, round, pleasant, and they adjust to a...…
I listen to high-end (Adam S3X) and I wanted an alternative listening a little hi-fi and more representative of a consumer grade! They meet my expectations beyond my expectations!
SOUNDS
Actually the sound is already amazing for tapping of this size and this price!
The pros: the dynamics is correct, the mediums are fine, the stereo is fairly accurate
The -: of course the bass is a little invasive and imprecise, and the highs are underrepresented
For their price they are great!
OVERALL OPINION
In summary we can say that the sound is rather flattering, warm, round, pleasant, and they adjust to a...…
Read more
I found secondhand at 300EUR pair in perfect condition, which is a bargain!
I listen to high-end (Adam S3X) and I wanted an alternative listening a little hi-fi and more representative of a consumer grade! They meet my expectations beyond my expectations!
SOUNDS
Actually the sound is already amazing for tapping of this size and this price!
The pros: the dynamics is correct, the mediums are fine, the stereo is fairly accurate
The -: of course the bass is a little invasive and imprecise, and the highs are underrepresented
For their price they are great!
OVERALL OPINION
In summary we can say that the sound is rather flattering, warm, round, pleasant, and they adjust to a lot of types of sources. As long as you know them well it seems to me even possible to mix it, but they seem especially interesting in listening alternative control, to take a step back with a hi-fi listening trend!
Radio France used to control prods in the listening booths, it's no coincidence!
I listen to high-end (Adam S3X) and I wanted an alternative listening a little hi-fi and more representative of a consumer grade! They meet my expectations beyond my expectations!
SOUNDS
Actually the sound is already amazing for tapping of this size and this price!
The pros: the dynamics is correct, the mediums are fine, the stereo is fairly accurate
The -: of course the bass is a little invasive and imprecise, and the highs are underrepresented
For their price they are great!
OVERALL OPINION
In summary we can say that the sound is rather flattering, warm, round, pleasant, and they adjust to a lot of types of sources. As long as you know them well it seems to me even possible to mix it, but they seem especially interesting in listening alternative control, to take a step back with a hi-fi listening trend!
Radio France used to control prods in the listening booths, it's no coincidence!
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strobo
Published on 06/12/06 at 04:16 (This content has been automatically translated from French)
I have to change or DCID complter my Yamaha monitors NS10M which I lass with time (10 years of loyal service, but not always adapted to modern technology). Wishing rduire also taken place in my installation, I started looking for small monitors amplifis that I could easily take with me and my laptop.
Fond of sound quality, I did not want the Edirol or M-Audio coutes with me always a little "Scandalis (arf, it's a bit much as a word).
So I Tourn to Dynaudio, KRK and Genelec. I found the Mackie trs good, but overkill for my use. Too bad they do not dclinent A model still smaller than the HR626.
I know that technology Genelec trs is pointed, and the name I was also rassur. This...…
Fond of sound quality, I did not want the Edirol or M-Audio coutes with me always a little "Scandalis (arf, it's a bit much as a word).
So I Tourn to Dynaudio, KRK and Genelec. I found the Mackie trs good, but overkill for my use. Too bad they do not dclinent A model still smaller than the HR626.
I know that technology Genelec trs is pointed, and the name I was also rassur. This...…
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I have to change or DCID complter my Yamaha monitors NS10M which I lass with time (10 years of loyal service, but not always adapted to modern technology). Wishing rduire also taken place in my installation, I started looking for small monitors amplifis that I could easily take with me and my laptop.
Fond of sound quality, I did not want the Edirol or M-Audio coutes with me always a little "Scandalis (arf, it's a bit much as a word).
So I Tourn to Dynaudio, KRK and Genelec. I found the Mackie trs good, but overkill for my use. Too bad they do not dclinent A model still smaller than the HR626.
I know that technology Genelec trs is pointed, and the name I was also rassur. This is one motivation for my purchase. I have great memories with Genelec monitors (including 1031A). The quality of manufacture, srieux this mark, zero on the concession.
SOUNDS
It is always difficult to judge the neutrality of an enclosure. That does not mean much. For me, there is always a proper coloring a monitor, otherwise they would sound all the same.
We should talk about accuracy. And that the ct the 8020A are just trs. They do not severe the o there is none and they do not say hsitent when high frequencies are ugly. The medium is trs beautiful, even if I admit that NS10M seem difficult to beat on the placement of voice (probably because the highs are slightly prsents trs).
Everything is dtach trsdtaill. We hear everything as if we could hear each track sparemment. Any default jumps ear, like a headphone costs at. In this sense, I find the sound of my AKG K240 headphones. What is true of monitoring.
Forcment then we redcouvre his CDs, but also his mixes (and I'm happy with the plutt rsultat, we must believe that my exprience of NS10M allowed me to make mixes trs phones!).
More srieusement, on some CDs, it's madness. You can hear the slightest breath of occasions, that guitar buzz, beat a little too appuy tails and reverbs are inevitable especially, was quick to rediscover that some discs are really massacrs in sound. That sounded good on NS10M and pregnant "standard / hifi" (goal of hyper compression / legalization) becomes foul on Genelecs.
In these cases, hyper-brilliants/saturs become acute and the sound is a sort of porridge unnamed.
There be no mistake about it.
On the other side albums and many well enregistrs masteriss (or more) are transcribed with a motion dcrire difficult. The album "Dummy" by Portishead is sublime, the latest Perry Blake and Cat Power are trsars, dynamic. Some pieces of Erik Truffaz are bluffing. The latest album from Cassius (known for big sound) is carrment explosive. And Minimum-Maximum (Live) by Kraftwerk concert with dives into the sounds of synths itchy and appear "before" the speaker so they are prsents.
In short, they are comfortable on everything, because they are fair. This is what we ask a professional monitor, and was in much better. Monitors is far from "home studio" ...
And if like me, you had a little afraid it's a bit of a luxury multimedia monitor: YOU ARE WRONG ROAD CARREMENT. Genelec is not in the public, and it is a professional tool we have here, in his stunning for its size. Moreover, just lift them to realize that each unit is really heavy and inspires confidence.
More importantly, we really feel like they come from another plant where the laws of physics have t regrowth. The bass is amazing, the picture is a stereo trs very precise and they send you push ds srieusement volume.
You really have to listen to discover the unthinkable.
Now what to consider:
- It takes a trs good investment, but it's true for any monitor. If this is to put them on top of a TAGRE, see M-Audio.
- They 20W 20 W. This is ample for a medium sized pice kind 30m2 (thus 90% of time sufficient home studio), is costing the vicinity. If we put 2m of the position of costing in a large room, it can be envisaged should spend on a bigger MODEL ... This is done to a.
- The bass is bluffing. At home I have to blow-4dB because I had too many, even 50cm from the wall. I still have the margin. But if we loigne, same thing as above.
And it is empty we will not search the sub-bass with. For a, it must (a) of sub box quality. So to drum and bass / dub / reggae, it will be usable, but the work will forcment bass limit. I have a sub "hifi" (Infinity) and good quality that blends well with the Genelecs. But it's just for the contrler purrs that drag on ...
- No on / off button. It has me a little inflated because they should be cut with the volume knob when I make a decision (my monitor path does not diffrencier headphone + control-room).
Nothing dramatic, except that the volume knob is not Crant and must visually adjust each time. Not terrible, but it's really looking for the small bte.
- The connections are in XLR symtriques, but supports asymmetrical. I have to redo cables (jack / XLR female), otherwise you have to buy, which extends the 30 euro bill in general.
- To listen to music, they are trs (too) analytical. For those who know something about the high-end audiophiles Facilities (without lapsing into sotrisme and exagration), we are in the same register but, if the speakers hifi "upscale" often for rle to make music more beautiful and costing Faithful to but less analytical (ie color), the genelecs transcribe music as it is, which does not exclude the motion . It makes them ruthless on some discs and this is what we want. Whether we did a good job!
OVERALL OPINION
I have had them for one week, making just yet. Despite everything, I termin 2 mixes with, and I took a slap on the rendering ... I still have 2-3 things fit, but it is empty we contrle things much better and comparison NS10M (branch always) / Genelec's scary, even if the NS10M remain a very s good tmoin the real world.
I have been slow dcider me, and thank you also GuillaumeF (below) for their advice and GregMako. It's really a good purchase and pes rflchi I'm not ready to regret.
While sr, there's more. It is always better, but I think we should do based on its installation and the need rel. This is what is the hardest to identify because we believe in always wanting more for his money, and therefore always wanting bigger which is not exactly nothing. For the home studio, this is the class. With a good headset complment to get low and try, hard to go wrong.
This last point APRS LONG notice: before purchasing this type of enclosure, it must be his own opinion, forget the name and on-themselves. This is not because it's Genelec it is unquestionably good. It will be nice if you have please.
Therefore, I would not recommend a beginner o really someone who does not bcp of exprience in the sound, so that would not even "ear". In gnral when we start, we plutt sensitive to sound flattering.
Otherwise, an excellent choice at least listen to the sound.
Fond of sound quality, I did not want the Edirol or M-Audio coutes with me always a little "Scandalis (arf, it's a bit much as a word).
So I Tourn to Dynaudio, KRK and Genelec. I found the Mackie trs good, but overkill for my use. Too bad they do not dclinent A model still smaller than the HR626.
I know that technology Genelec trs is pointed, and the name I was also rassur. This is one motivation for my purchase. I have great memories with Genelec monitors (including 1031A). The quality of manufacture, srieux this mark, zero on the concession.
SOUNDS
It is always difficult to judge the neutrality of an enclosure. That does not mean much. For me, there is always a proper coloring a monitor, otherwise they would sound all the same.
We should talk about accuracy. And that the ct the 8020A are just trs. They do not severe the o there is none and they do not say hsitent when high frequencies are ugly. The medium is trs beautiful, even if I admit that NS10M seem difficult to beat on the placement of voice (probably because the highs are slightly prsents trs).
Everything is dtach trsdtaill. We hear everything as if we could hear each track sparemment. Any default jumps ear, like a headphone costs at. In this sense, I find the sound of my AKG K240 headphones. What is true of monitoring.
Forcment then we redcouvre his CDs, but also his mixes (and I'm happy with the plutt rsultat, we must believe that my exprience of NS10M allowed me to make mixes trs phones!).
More srieusement, on some CDs, it's madness. You can hear the slightest breath of occasions, that guitar buzz, beat a little too appuy tails and reverbs are inevitable especially, was quick to rediscover that some discs are really massacrs in sound. That sounded good on NS10M and pregnant "standard / hifi" (goal of hyper compression / legalization) becomes foul on Genelecs.
In these cases, hyper-brilliants/saturs become acute and the sound is a sort of porridge unnamed.
There be no mistake about it.
On the other side albums and many well enregistrs masteriss (or more) are transcribed with a motion dcrire difficult. The album "Dummy" by Portishead is sublime, the latest Perry Blake and Cat Power are trsars, dynamic. Some pieces of Erik Truffaz are bluffing. The latest album from Cassius (known for big sound) is carrment explosive. And Minimum-Maximum (Live) by Kraftwerk concert with dives into the sounds of synths itchy and appear "before" the speaker so they are prsents.
In short, they are comfortable on everything, because they are fair. This is what we ask a professional monitor, and was in much better. Monitors is far from "home studio" ...
And if like me, you had a little afraid it's a bit of a luxury multimedia monitor: YOU ARE WRONG ROAD CARREMENT. Genelec is not in the public, and it is a professional tool we have here, in his stunning for its size. Moreover, just lift them to realize that each unit is really heavy and inspires confidence.
More importantly, we really feel like they come from another plant where the laws of physics have t regrowth. The bass is amazing, the picture is a stereo trs very precise and they send you push ds srieusement volume.
You really have to listen to discover the unthinkable.
Now what to consider:
- It takes a trs good investment, but it's true for any monitor. If this is to put them on top of a TAGRE, see M-Audio.
- They 20W 20 W. This is ample for a medium sized pice kind 30m2 (thus 90% of time sufficient home studio), is costing the vicinity. If we put 2m of the position of costing in a large room, it can be envisaged should spend on a bigger MODEL ... This is done to a.
- The bass is bluffing. At home I have to blow-4dB because I had too many, even 50cm from the wall. I still have the margin. But if we loigne, same thing as above.
And it is empty we will not search the sub-bass with. For a, it must (a) of sub box quality. So to drum and bass / dub / reggae, it will be usable, but the work will forcment bass limit. I have a sub "hifi" (Infinity) and good quality that blends well with the Genelecs. But it's just for the contrler purrs that drag on ...
- No on / off button. It has me a little inflated because they should be cut with the volume knob when I make a decision (my monitor path does not diffrencier headphone + control-room).
Nothing dramatic, except that the volume knob is not Crant and must visually adjust each time. Not terrible, but it's really looking for the small bte.
- The connections are in XLR symtriques, but supports asymmetrical. I have to redo cables (jack / XLR female), otherwise you have to buy, which extends the 30 euro bill in general.
- To listen to music, they are trs (too) analytical. For those who know something about the high-end audiophiles Facilities (without lapsing into sotrisme and exagration), we are in the same register but, if the speakers hifi "upscale" often for rle to make music more beautiful and costing Faithful to but less analytical (ie color), the genelecs transcribe music as it is, which does not exclude the motion . It makes them ruthless on some discs and this is what we want. Whether we did a good job!
OVERALL OPINION
I have had them for one week, making just yet. Despite everything, I termin 2 mixes with, and I took a slap on the rendering ... I still have 2-3 things fit, but it is empty we contrle things much better and comparison NS10M (branch always) / Genelec's scary, even if the NS10M remain a very s good tmoin the real world.
I have been slow dcider me, and thank you also GuillaumeF (below) for their advice and GregMako. It's really a good purchase and pes rflchi I'm not ready to regret.
While sr, there's more. It is always better, but I think we should do based on its installation and the need rel. This is what is the hardest to identify because we believe in always wanting more for his money, and therefore always wanting bigger which is not exactly nothing. For the home studio, this is the class. With a good headset complment to get low and try, hard to go wrong.
This last point APRS LONG notice: before purchasing this type of enclosure, it must be his own opinion, forget the name and on-themselves. This is not because it's Genelec it is unquestionably good. It will be nice if you have please.
Therefore, I would not recommend a beginner o really someone who does not bcp of exprience in the sound, so that would not even "ear". In gnral when we start, we plutt sensitive to sound flattering.
Otherwise, an excellent choice at least listen to the sound.
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GuillaumeF
Published on 12/10/05 at 00:02 (This content has been automatically translated from French)
Size for use close monitoring trs. The weight is pretty lev - a sign of good electronic? It does not fit in a pocket!
SOUNDS
Low doient Reduces be impractical to -2 dB for close monitoring application or they are too Submitted. After that, it sounds right and clean, not aggressive. Be careful not to put too much even if you feel that strong ca saturates a little missing a little power while having the same (20 20 W).
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for several weeks. I like its size, its brand (yes), the quality of manufacture, neutrality and sound quality. I may be too low unless Submitted on SETTING THE Crant non facial volume (left right balance difficult) and the fact that also the...…
SOUNDS
Low doient Reduces be impractical to -2 dB for close monitoring application or they are too Submitted. After that, it sounds right and clean, not aggressive. Be careful not to put too much even if you feel that strong ca saturates a little missing a little power while having the same (20 20 W).
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for several weeks. I like its size, its brand (yes), the quality of manufacture, neutrality and sound quality. I may be too low unless Submitted on SETTING THE Crant non facial volume (left right balance difficult) and the fact that also the...…
Read more
Size for use close monitoring trs. The weight is pretty lev - a sign of good electronic? It does not fit in a pocket!
SOUNDS
Low doient Reduces be impractical to -2 dB for close monitoring application or they are too Submitted. After that, it sounds right and clean, not aggressive. Be careful not to put too much even if you feel that strong ca saturates a little missing a little power while having the same (20 20 W).
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for several weeks. I like its size, its brand (yes), the quality of manufacture, neutrality and sound quality. I may be too low unless Submitted on SETTING THE Crant non facial volume (left right balance difficult) and the fact that also the output XLR gre!
It is not given but it is not the B ******* R either.
I do it again this election, unless I turned to the small PSI Audio, but I did not like the color.
SOUNDS
Low doient Reduces be impractical to -2 dB for close monitoring application or they are too Submitted. After that, it sounds right and clean, not aggressive. Be careful not to put too much even if you feel that strong ca saturates a little missing a little power while having the same (20 20 W).
OVERALL OPINION
I use it for several weeks. I like its size, its brand (yes), the quality of manufacture, neutrality and sound quality. I may be too low unless Submitted on SETTING THE Crant non facial volume (left right balance difficult) and the fact that also the output XLR gre!
It is not given but it is not the B ******* R either.
I do it again this election, unless I turned to the small PSI Audio, but I did not like the color.
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Tech. sheet
- Manufacturer: Genelec
- Model: 8020A
- Series: 8000
- Category: Active Monitors
- Added in our database on: 06/16/2005
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