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Guitar speaker from Celestion belonging to the Classic series

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  • BaïBaï

    Help!

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 01/01/11 at 08:16
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    Horror, absolute scam! At the MP3 age and HIFI chains with two balls, it will be time to unclog ears. This also applies to the current generation of tube amps, hard to find a semblance of her under the 2000 e head, believe that the reissues VOX, Orange, Marshall and Co gives you the Top, it boggles: all thieves in jail!
  • brui2fonbrui2fon

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 10/26/10 at 06:33
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    the one of the most reputs hp at Celestion
    unlike SnoN name, it is n APs and is not vintage 30w
    its sound is rather typ modern, even if he may agree with sounds oldest amp, and it makes 60w
    indulge with this HP is low for its pronounced
    la, ca will functionof the amp that you put it and the sound you want to play
    I, for example, I have a carvin head, and light ca marries very very good for a modern sound
    and the saturation, according to my pedals, I prefer HP differnetw
    with an Ibanez TK999 HT, the V30 sound wonderfully, c is modern, there is gain and grain, brawny low ca bites, harmonics come out easily
    al Conversely, D HP G12-65, plus vintage and old rock, this pedal does …
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    the one of the most reputs hp at Celestion
    unlike SnoN name, it is n APs and is not vintage 30w
    its sound is rather typ modern, even if he may agree with sounds oldest amp, and it makes 60w
    indulge with this HP is low for its pronounced
    la, ca will functionof the amp that you put it and the sound you want to play
    I, for example, I have a carvin head, and light ca marries very very good for a modern sound
    and the saturation, according to my pedals, I prefer HP differnetw
    with an Ibanez TK999 HT, the V30 sound wonderfully, c is modern, there is gain and grain, brawny low ca bites, harmonics come out easily
    al Conversely, D HP G12-65, plus vintage and old rock, this pedal does not sound
    and with another pedal, Abunai 2, c is the opposite, it's better with G12-65, but the V30 are very correct even with kan

    after c c is like everything is a matter of taste
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  • marcan71marcan71

    So, why?

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 11/21/14 at 03:01
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    Impatient to ring my head TubeMeister 36, and to follow such panurge, the almost general opinion, I ordered a vintage 30 hp to power my home 112 bass reflex cabinet. So actually in the clear, okay, with a crunch and distortion against the abomination is there, the slurry spin sound our ears!
    J4ai then bought a celesion G12H30 (annivesaire not true), and then everything has changed, the screaming gave way to creamy, and all is well dan sle merilleur worlds.
    What upsets me about this story is that 60% of manufacturers are equipped with baffles that shit! They must touch at a low price, otherwise I see no interest!
  • peet0499peet0499

    hp interesting, but ...

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 11/04/14 at 11:48
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    This is particulary hp for my part, I explained m

    I had bought the put it in a fender hot rod deluxe (version 3) has a Celestion hp of origin but not great, I wanted a good rock sound (with good pedal hot rod rings of hell yes I will yes guaranteed;)) and saw that it is in 3/4 hp amps mounted to I originally got interested in telling me that the engineers know all the same that they are ...

    and then after being informed listened SEVERAL video on youtube etc, the sound m not interested badly and I bought ... after installation, clean is good I find asser rich character with an air of deja heard since good number of great guitar playing with or have played with ... so very pleasant to c…
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    This is particulary hp for my part, I explained m

    I had bought the put it in a fender hot rod deluxe (version 3) has a Celestion hp of origin but not great, I wanted a good rock sound (with good pedal hot rod rings of hell yes I will yes guaranteed;)) and saw that it is in 3/4 hp amps mounted to I originally got interested in telling me that the engineers know all the same that they are ...

    and then after being informed listened SEVERAL video on youtube etc, the sound m not interested badly and I bought ... after installation, clean is good I find asser rich character with an air of deja heard since good number of great guitar playing with or have played with ... so very pleasant to clean, but once the distortion engaged and I've tried several (various pedals) with the several guitars c was the horror of acute exploding ears really has to hurt ... so ... very very disappointed not to play with AC and not want to finish with a sound like running for at least 50 hours!

    I have it replaced by a wizzard eminence red coat and there it was the day and night!) (ca sent) I will not talk about this one, but in my hot rod is there for 3 years and I tale not change ...

    there is little I decided to go on a 4x12 ... playing well punchy rock demange ca me from longemp :)

    my choice is on a blackstar ht club 50 head, very happy with this purchase, but the 4x12 of the same brand is not me they are trying Celestion seventy 80 hp good and I wanted something beefier ...

    after some testing and research my choice of a 4x12 cab that provides a classic (ie not me that my ears are choosing :)) a Marshall 1960b with 4 G12T75 made in uk please, I like the sound directly, but after some rehearsals and concerts he missed me a pti some things ... the G12T75 is very good but a little smoother and it said there asser dark I go into detail because the sound is very good,

    I'd already read that the couple v30 G12T75 Was asser magic, ok even if it wasn t good in one cabinet and an open amp (hot rod for example :)) I decided to test v30 with 2 x 2 G12T75 therefore (according to advices of Celestion mail;)) in my marshall 1960

    and here I must say that ca n have nothing to do with the sound that I had with the v30 in my hot rod ... I had a distortion pedal black star so very similar to my blackstar head to compare c is not bad because strong Similarly, since the distortion of the hot rod is rotten

    now in this config the sound is fuller with that 4g12t75, clear sound as distortion, c is richer, melodious, we say that there are frequencies in all directions, c is more alive, c is powerful with assé of vintage bass tight and not at all the way it should not be proud to have his name ca, I really like ...

    So to sum up a little after this romant, the v30 is not a set hp in most amps and cab for nothing c is on, but it should in my opinion, it is personal, knowing that it can be very hateful in some amp with some very good config and config in else, maybe it does give his best even mixed in with other hp and can be given t he best in cab and amp fermé..certainement of BTW in my opinion

    anyway maintenat the config with the v30 I really like and now I am really pleased to see after running because apparently it needs a lot of hours of play ... but now the garish side is not aggressive to the ears. No ..I have not tried a full cab v30 for comparing m but may not matter because I love the evil G12T75 with v30 and I think his stuff pti who are waiting just missed :)
    a really effective couple ...

    I have not said with what guitars I tried all this because the characteristics are similar each time but ... jle said anyway :)

    telecaster with us (with dual Seymour Duncan jb in the bridge) a fender with double seymour duncan alternative 8 Chavalet and custom fender fat 50 middle and neck, gibson sg junior and p90 ...

    in the end I put 8 because my experience was a little ca all or nothing, but in the end very happy ... strongly depends on the gear so ...
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  • Linn SondekLinn Sondek

    Pretty bad.

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 10/13/13 at 04:14
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    The Celestion Vintage 30 HP is a high reputation team a fairly substantial number of speakers manufacturer. And one can legitimately ask this almost existential question: "But, mashed, why?".
    It should however be careful when reading the name of HP, "Vintage 30" ... Not only because it does not sound vintage, but it is not more than 30 years it is 30W. So, once again, "Why Why so much hate and lies in the world of harmony and serenity Yes, why?".
    Well, I do not know damn thing!
    Who wants to severe drooling endlessly? Who wants projected even at low volume mediums? Who wants screaming highs and without definition? Anyway, who wants a bad sound? This one has only one choice: the V30.
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    The Celestion Vintage 30 HP is a high reputation team a fairly substantial number of speakers manufacturer. And one can legitimately ask this almost existential question: "But, mashed, why?".
    It should however be careful when reading the name of HP, "Vintage 30" ... Not only because it does not sound vintage, but it is not more than 30 years it is 30W. So, once again, "Why Why so much hate and lies in the world of harmony and serenity Yes, why?".
    Well, I do not know damn thing!
    Who wants to severe drooling endlessly? Who wants projected even at low volume mediums? Who wants screaming highs and without definition? Anyway, who wants a bad sound? This one has only one choice: the V30.
    Made in China but sold at UK, I can not find anything positive to say about this Celestion. Maybe he needs a break of several years? Perhaps it should always be associated with a very different HP?
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  • fabbcrichfabbcrich

    To what use is HP?

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 07/29/13 at 09:43
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    I used rpeter for 1 month on a 212 marshall with one V30 and one eminence legend. Personally I built a 212 with Celestion G 12T 100 HOT and I'm another one with 100 K lead singer of my band, I use the site marshall (its keeps me from lugging my 212 ).
    For starters are not heard at all eminence (a 212 unbalanced and expensive manufacturer) and the V30, but why 3/4 baffles factories are equipped with V30?
    Low and almost nonexistent cardboard mediums too loud and shrill or harsh for the ears as it is or with respect to hp, but very sharp slap means therefore obliged to go very, very slowly on the attack strings.
    As soon as one goes a little low volume dégueules and garish side forced to …
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    I used rpeter for 1 month on a 212 marshall with one V30 and one eminence legend. Personally I built a 212 with Celestion G 12T 100 HOT and I'm another one with 100 K lead singer of my band, I use the site marshall (its keeps me from lugging my 212 ).
    For starters are not heard at all eminence (a 212 unbalanced and expensive manufacturer) and the V30, but why 3/4 baffles factories are equipped with V30?
    Low and almost nonexistent cardboard mediums too loud and shrill or harsh for the ears as it is or with respect to hp, but very sharp slap means therefore obliged to go very, very slowly on the attack strings.
    As soon as one goes a little low volume dégueules and garish side forced to wear hearing protection to avoid being dull after a pieces. With my metal band we play in C or D, the V30 hardly makes its frequencies so it's pretty hard to hear and identify.
    To summarize: they are heavy, expensive, dry and shrill sound, and part of the punk caves I see what to do with.
    My 212 with the T 100 HOT cost me just under 300 €, sounds far better in all respects and is much more versatile.
    So think before you order your HP or buy a cabinet, the 30 V are far from the best ones to play metal, better buy an empty cabinet or do it yourself, and it paste G12 T 100 HOT or G 12 K 100 and you will get the top to the metal, hot or cold, dry or greasy, clean and precise, these two models can do everything, rhythm and solos, and all styles of music.
    Scrape and good choice.
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  • tuvoktuvok

    blah blah blah

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 01/13/13 at 04:26
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    How long have you been using?
    I used 8 years on very good tube amp (Soldano SLO and Steavens Poundcake).

    Did you try many other models before buying it?
    No, it was after acquisition that I had the opportunity to compare.

    What is so special that you like most and least?
    What I like most: uh .... ben nothing (after comparison with other hp)
    What I like least: the name is completely misleading Vintage, it sounds too modern for that, more high-volume sound is aggressive, loud, nasal, too straight and mids are not creamy or singing, they sound too "metal" hard ".
    The Vintage 30 cab occupy most of the same high quality is really wonder how this is possible ...
    Makes you wonder i…
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    How long have you been using?
    I used 8 years on very good tube amp (Soldano SLO and Steavens Poundcake).

    Did you try many other models before buying it?
    No, it was after acquisition that I had the opportunity to compare.

    What is so special that you like most and least?
    What I like most: uh .... ben nothing (after comparison with other hp)
    What I like least: the name is completely misleading Vintage, it sounds too modern for that, more high-volume sound is aggressive, loud, nasal, too straight and mids are not creamy or singing, they sound too "metal" hard ".
    The Vintage 30 cab occupy most of the same high quality is really wonder how this is possible ...
    Makes you wonder if Celestion almost does not pay the builders for installing in V30.

    How do you rate the quality / price?
    Cher for performance.

    With experience, you do again this choice?
    Certainly not!
    I think his hp are ideal for youngsters playing metal today, for everything else they are not really recommended.
    Basically they seemed not too bad the V30, but hey I never had the opportunity to compare with other hp.
    Once the opportunity to be able to compare to other models hp, then I really realized how much they were "lame."
    For me, that price is one of the "worst" hp available on the market.
    I joined the opinion of Qillax we read everywhere that hp are great and wonderful and blah blah blah .... especially do not get trapped!
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  • KirKillKirKill

    uh ... no ...

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 09/04/12 at 11:53
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    it is a HP one hears everywhere that it is wonderful, wonderful ... we see that it is used by Slash then we say that the master has good taste and that is wrong and not taking it away .... it is not at all the vintage sound, warm with a nice round fat medium is just the opposite is brilliant, super straight, precise limit hi-fi I'm exaggerating a bit on the form but the substance remains the Similarly, on the Mesa for the modern is excellent after a Fender or Marshall is yuck ... suddenly I caught a Celestion Alnico Blue for my Fender and Marshall on a small Celestion Greenback Heritage, where it kills more than his mama ... dirty bluesy sounds a real wonder compared to V30, so after all de…
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    it is a HP one hears everywhere that it is wonderful, wonderful ... we see that it is used by Slash then we say that the master has good taste and that is wrong and not taking it away .... it is not at all the vintage sound, warm with a nice round fat medium is just the opposite is brilliant, super straight, precise limit hi-fi I'm exaggerating a bit on the form but the substance remains the Similarly, on the Mesa for the modern is excellent after a Fender or Marshall is yuck ... suddenly I caught a Celestion Alnico Blue for my Fender and Marshall on a small Celestion Greenback Heritage, where it kills more than his mama ... dirty bluesy sounds a real wonder compared to V30, so after all depends on what you search ... for me it is not the ultimate in HP Celestion, they would have had to baptize the Modern Vintage 30 instead of 30, at least it would avoid confusion
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  • aliascrossaliascross

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 09/29/04 at 10:28
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    I use Vintage 30 for 2 years now.
    I manufactured a similar 4 * 12 cabinets. Thanks I was able to compare several HP:
    - Celestion Vintage30
    - Celestion Century Vintage
    - Celestion G12H100
    - Celestion G12T75

    The Vintage30 a particular grain. It is above the top of the spectrum that emerges, ie the low standards are not ... Still, the sound is INTERESTED because it brings a nice color to mdiums. Moreover, as the bass are not too Submitted, he can cash the guy! well ... if I have time, I will add this notice records that the house ... , 0) to compare what I Submitted 4 HP ...

    In Manir gnrale, use only the Vintage 30, I do not seem to be a solution INTERESTED ... it must be shuff…
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    I use Vintage 30 for 2 years now.
    I manufactured a similar 4 * 12 cabinets. Thanks I was able to compare several HP:
    - Celestion Vintage30
    - Celestion Century Vintage
    - Celestion G12H100
    - Celestion G12T75

    The Vintage30 a particular grain. It is above the top of the spectrum that emerges, ie the low standards are not ... Still, the sound is INTERESTED because it brings a nice color to mdiums. Moreover, as the bass are not too Submitted, he can cash the guy! well ... if I have time, I will add this notice records that the house ... , 0) to compare what I Submitted 4 HP ...

    In Manir gnrale, use only the Vintage 30, I do not seem to be a solution INTERESTED ... it must be shuffled with other HP have more bass, as the G12H100 is really wonderful to have sound trs heavy with big bass ... it's really night and day between one and Vintage30 G12H100 ...

    The Century Vintage, it keeps the grain of the Vintage 30 in the treble, with a little more mdiums creuss ... but unless the G12H ... For low is substantially the same thing a Vintage 30, with a tad more even when ...

    The G12T75, I do not even speak ... not worth the trouble ... we are really far from other HP ... It is not TElement the sound itself is bad ... but it lacks precision TElement of that drool, and final result is misrable.

    In conclusion, I would say that is Vintage30 are Intrets if mix with others.
    To receive the mtal, I suggest that (with a 4 * 12 for example) 2 Vintage 30 on top and bottom G12H100 2.

    If you have any comments for me prcise this advice, Do not hesitate! , 0)
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  • djé31djé31

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 05/16/05 at 13:21
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    I just bought two Vintage30 (110 euros each in Toulouse) to replace two original G12T-75 on my Marshall 1960A. I put up every two (on the advice of the seller) because they have an efficiency 3dB suprieur over G12T-75, the distribution is better and more homogne.
    When I changed, what diffrence ... I still can not. I have a 100w head H & K Triamp, the sounds, they are clear, crunch or saturated, have all changed over high mdiums, DEFINITIONS better in the low (I September 1 strings, Septimus is a LA) and more than prsence. I play in a band and everyone felt the diffrence (I'm also quite agree with the opinion of the Previous HP). One hears much better, more distinctly. The bad is that his …
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    I just bought two Vintage30 (110 euros each in Toulouse) to replace two original G12T-75 on my Marshall 1960A. I put up every two (on the advice of the seller) because they have an efficiency 3dB suprieur over G12T-75, the distribution is better and more homogne.
    When I changed, what diffrence ... I still can not. I have a 100w head H & K Triamp, the sounds, they are clear, crunch or saturated, have all changed over high mdiums, DEFINITIONS better in the low (I September 1 strings, Septimus is a LA) and more than prsence. I play in a band and everyone felt the diffrence (I'm also quite agree with the opinion of the Previous HP). One hears much better, more distinctly. The bad is that his cot is very colorful but hey, with all the advantages that the HP amne ...
    I await the arrival of two century vintage, to eliminate this hrsie what the G12T-75 ...
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  • awksawks

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 09/21/07 at 05:13
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    Vintage 30 excellent.
    Greenback 25 ... even better is the top IMHO.
    G12H30 .... s also a superb sound, halfway between the Vintage 30 and Greenback.
    G12K100, must love ...
    G12T100, plutt Designed to be alone in a cabinet or combo with one HP, but bites plutt Try the well-shuffled with G12T75 V12-60 or X-shaped, 4 * 12 especially if you have any hybrids or Mosfet100 heads.
    Century Vintage trs .... nice .. and well equilibrated (especially lightweight: 1.7kg 4.7kg for the Vintage 30, for example). It's really an HP discovering. Personally I prfre at Vintage 30.
    G12T75: arrtez to say anything ... we must try to understand it better. It is designed to be in 4x12 and turn heads with …
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    Vintage 30 excellent.
    Greenback 25 ... even better is the top IMHO.
    G12H30 .... s also a superb sound, halfway between the Vintage 30 and Greenback.
    G12K100, must love ...
    G12T100, plutt Designed to be alone in a cabinet or combo with one HP, but bites plutt Try the well-shuffled with G12T75 V12-60 or X-shaped, 4 * 12 especially if you have any hybrids or Mosfet100 heads.
    Century Vintage trs .... nice .. and well equilibrated (especially lightweight: 1.7kg 4.7kg for the Vintage 30, for example). It's really an HP discovering. Personally I prfre at Vintage 30.
    G12T75: arrtez to say anything ... we must try to understand it better. It is designed to be in 4x12 and turn heads with Marshall 100 watts, and nothing else, then combines 2 or 2 with other types of 97dB HP G10L35 .....( looking for prf ence versions made in England of the 80s ...)
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  • awksawks

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 10/29/07 at 04:54
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    Vintage 30 excellent, one of the best HP Celestion.
    Greenback 25 ... even better is the top IMHO.
    Century .... s also a superb sound, halfway between the Vintage 30 and Greenback.
    G12H30 ... trs Grrenback a warm, bluesy trs ... a favorite of Eric Johnson
    G12K100, must love ...
    G12T100, plutt Designed to be alone in a cabinet or combo with one HP, but bites plutt Try the well-shuffled with G12T75 V12-60 or X-shaped, 4 * 12 especially if you have any hybrids or Mosfet100 heads.
    Century Vintage trs .... nice .. and well equilibrated (especially lightweight: 1.7kg 4.7kg for the Vintage 30, for example). It's really an HP discovering.
    G10L35: old made in England found in Cab.1965 8…
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    Vintage 30 excellent, one of the best HP Celestion.
    Greenback 25 ... even better is the top IMHO.
    Century .... s also a superb sound, halfway between the Vintage 30 and Greenback.
    G12H30 ... trs Grrenback a warm, bluesy trs ... a favorite of Eric Johnson
    G12K100, must love ...
    G12T100, plutt Designed to be alone in a cabinet or combo with one HP, but bites plutt Try the well-shuffled with G12T75 V12-60 or X-shaped, 4 * 12 especially if you have any hybrids or Mosfet100 heads.
    Century Vintage trs .... nice .. and well equilibrated (especially lightweight: 1.7kg 4.7kg for the Vintage 30, for example). It's really an HP discovering.
    G10L35: old made in England found in Cab.1965 80s. In addition to size, a plutt sounds good, and a little between G12M/G12H G12T75 but without the low ct mdium often referred to drooling.
    G12T75: arrtez to say anything ... we must try to understand it better. It is designed to be in 4x12 and turn heads with Marshall 100 watts, and nothing else, then combines 2 or 2 with other types of 97dB HP G10L35 .....( looking for prf ence versions made in England of the 80s ...)
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  • Jp6l6Jp6l6

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 01/01/09 at 20:07
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    I used them a couple of years trying all the time why my set-up lacked smoothness, where did these mediums between hard metal? It was the Vintage 30. I do not like them at all! Since I have replaced with a model in Eminence, I love all the sounds that my equipment (high-end anyway!) Is used to carve.
    These speakers are in the majority of cabinets and combos on the market when there is a plethora of competing models ... It makes you wonder if Celestion do not offer manufacturers amp to remove the markets?
    In my opinion, their reputation is grossly overrated !!!!!
    A good example of pollution psycho !!!!!
  • myriam63660myriam63660

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 06/13/09 at 14:58
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    - Used for two years
    - The V30 has a fairly solid, with big bass a little slobbery, but also treble Submitted a big bump in mdiums. New, the treble can seem aggressive but once trs Rod was a better balance in the frequencies.

    - For those who have a string with naturally dark and lments rglages mat, the V30 may seem a little too sharp right level, there is the ability to marry the century vintage, which removes ve a little thickness to the signal but provides a richer level of the sound spectrum

    - I started a cabinet with V30 in 16 ohms (SERIES correct) then I had a V30 into 8 ohms (in stiletto msa) and there is a big difference between the two versions:

    - 16 ohms gives the V30 so…
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    - Used for two years
    - The V30 has a fairly solid, with big bass a little slobbery, but also treble Submitted a big bump in mdiums. New, the treble can seem aggressive but once trs Rod was a better balance in the frequencies.

    - For those who have a string with naturally dark and lments rglages mat, the V30 may seem a little too sharp right level, there is the ability to marry the century vintage, which removes ve a little thickness to the signal but provides a richer level of the sound spectrum

    - I started a cabinet with V30 in 16 ohms (SERIES correct) then I had a V30 into 8 ohms (in stiletto msa) and there is a big difference between the two versions:

    - 16 ohms gives the V30 sound moderneplus ampleavec more bass, the reserve of power, and just under mdiums, however I find that the cold estplus V30 8 ohms ... suited to me for mtal

    V30 8 ohms them give a more classiqueavec less bass, and a kind of small natural distortion at the speaker quirend the sonplus warmer than the 16 ohm V30 ... I think suited to blues, rock and blues rock gnral
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  • nickname009nickname009

    Celestion Vintage 30Published on 08/22/11 at 08:41
    My first experience with these speakers was in 2007. Since then they've been in a lot of amps and have become the industry standard speaker for high gain applications. And I can see why! It's a great sounding speaker with a specific midrange character to it that a lot of metal or high gain players can work with. However, there is some fizziness to it in the high mids and trebles that I sometimes HATE, but that's also the same character that adds to that midrange making the speaker so unique on it's own and thus famous! I have to say that it has generally been good sounding through almost any type of cab, whether it be 412s or 212s or even single 112 cabs. The V30 is sort of like the SM57 of…
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    My first experience with these speakers was in 2007. Since then they've been in a lot of amps and have become the industry standard speaker for high gain applications. And I can see why! It's a great sounding speaker with a specific midrange character to it that a lot of metal or high gain players can work with. However, there is some fizziness to it in the high mids and trebles that I sometimes HATE, but that's also the same character that adds to that midrange making the speaker so unique on it's own and thus famous! I have to say that it has generally been good sounding through almost any type of cab, whether it be 412s or 212s or even single 112 cabs. The V30 is sort of like the SM57 of guitar speakers. They've become the standard sound and it's not necessarily a good or bad sound but definitely a workable sound.

    In terms of headroom I have to admit there isn't much. Cleans are good but can lead to break up quite early depending on how it's used. This is of course what is known to help with the high gain applications, it breaks up earlier, which generally equals better for metal etc. More distortion is always better, apparently. It is generally a darker sounding speaker in comparison to other standard celestions for eg the G12T-75. Not REALLy dark but darker. And if paired with the right cab can sound great. I have found however that these speakers don't sound good to me, with the oversized mesa cabs. It's way too dark and actually sound too thick and muddy, notes become indistinguishable and the low end is all over the place, while the highs are generally fizzy. It could just be the character of the mesa cab itself too, I haven't had much luck with the oversized ones..

    But in general this speaker is decent and has become the industry standard rock/metal high gain speaker. Definitely can sound good, but maybe not the most versatile.
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