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Published on 02/20/13 at 03:48For the description, not much to add from what was said in its opinion that BassWalker has summed it up, but I still stick to:
- Gibson Les Paul Special Singlecut Custom Shop, Historic Series, finishing YELLOW YOUR TV for me (it's beautiful, really, I can not resist me!), Made in U.S. of course, my mine is output at the end of November Gibson 2010.
- Fully mahogany one piece (not curved like those reported in tables with maple)
- Channel 22 frets rosewood fingerboard 50's rounded profile in one piece with fixing also "long tenon" in the guitar (more to sustain apparently). In short, it feels good level already violin ...
Binding and mark cream "dot" instead of the usual trapezoids. Pins in "tortoise" on the edge of the handle (although very discrete classes).
- Gibson P90 pickups neck and bridge with 3-position selector.
- Bridge-Tailpiece Wraparound "lightweight aluminum" without compensation.
- Mechanical Vintage Kluson Deluxe "white dots".
- Nitrocellulose varnish (so late) with good smell when you open the box rigid CS magnificent way!
- Finishing YOUR therefore slightly aged hardware (it is far from Fender road worn eh is discrete) type micro scratches on the covers of P90 on the pickguard, qq traces on the wrap, nothing bad and too much, it's still very classy.
- Electronic sensible reproduce vintage specs: CTS 500k knobs everywhere (I say linear use, but I will not know too much about it ...) capas "bumble-bee" 0.022 mF tone for neck and bridge (it seems that this is not true as PIO at the time, but just dressed in normal capas BBEE ...)
Note that the wiring is starting wiring "modern" contrary to what is said. Mine was ironed in 50's wiring for more interaction between the volumes and tones, and less loss of brightness knob in the game.
Finally, the jewel is delivered in "green" logo stamped rigid Gibson Gibson Custom Shop (with the star) and mounted 10-46.
UTILIZATION
Handle 50's rounded profile is big enough even if it is playable. Larger than that SG guitars are actually where I'm most comfortable although I have not (yet!!).
In fact it's just a little harder to play thumb on the low E string, and then it takes some getting used to, especially when it comes from a very comfortable soft Fender C but thinner, like me! !
The radius of 12 "(it seems that it is) is really nice to play a good compromise to me between the flat and rounded lead to agreements.
Access to acute is ok but not great, beyond the 15th it's hot (good at the same time I'm not too solos therefore poorly placed to judge well), but it is a good LP What, no surprises !.
The weight of the guitar is amazing: all those who say that LP weighs a ton, especially when it is not chambered or weight relieved, I told them "fake"!
It is light as a feather, lighter than my strat ash body (should I weigh for the exact values, but it feels direct).
Like what influence the quality of wood selected is not a myth, it is indeed true (and I do not even sound for now ...).
When you're a regular strat body, this is where we enjoy cutting stomach, but not sacrilege, a LP must remain an LP!
I plussoie BassWalker the opinion of the great differences between the 2 pickups neck and bridge, although they are strictly identical. We will return in the sound.
The height of the P90, not adjustable on this model (they are even wood in their cavities) is almost identical to the 2, so that the neck sounds a bit louder than the bridge (near the neck is strings, the bridge too far for my taste on my model, but I could see another model mag and it was like the first view). The pickups are hardly inclined, they are almost parallel to the body.
On frets and setup, here is the reason for my 8/10 (I'll put 8.5 if I could). Indeed, level settings, mine (bought on the net but with photos of the store, very nice) did not suit me at all. Action too high, especially side strings, intonation really not good (I know it's a wrap and not a TOM, but hey there's still limits!) And a band that needed be corrected slightly. In short, I do not me ecstasy before the Plek system, and I think the price is a bit shameful that the guitar is not set correctly, even if it is true that some settings such action are a little more personal after the scratch game.
Fortunately, after a ride in my luthier loved, everything is back to normal, no big problems despite narrowly that it is impossible to have the precision of a Tuneomatic.
Finally, note that the vintage MECAS so often criticized wrongly take good agreement, as long as the nut is properly adjusted head again.
SOUNDS
We have arrived to the point: how does it sound?
Well then, my friends, is the killing integral, although the Gibson P90 are in my opinion not the best you can put on such a guitar.
Sounds obtained are very different and marked according to the micro config used. Indeed, if they will have identical (alnico V P90 each, measured at 7.85 and 7.95 kohm in neck in bridge so), the resulting sounds are markedly different.
- In the neck, the sound is very round, very warm and velvety, almost a little too "bassy" it fail almost a little opening at the acute to the point that I do not fall below the tone 8. Ideal for jazz course, blues-rock, or for burning leads to desire so much smooth Santana in mind.
- The bridge is quite the opposite: the sound is very twangy despite mahogany, with treble and midrange treble very aggressive, it lacks a little bass and fat, and the position and height of implantation should not be foreign. For example, I never get the tone more than 6, and before the luthier there slips springs to adjust the height and a little closer and lower side, it was 4 ...
In short, it is very punk rock actually see, I use that rhythmic crunch tones and OD, where suddenly pierces the mix at home (although there must have a good point! !). For leads, I prefer to neck, I've always been like that. In short, it lacks a bit of fat in the sound to calm the aggression a bit too much for me.
- Finally, the intermediate position is most surprising. It was almost a strat sound with his LP, and yes! With the implementation / / of 2 P90, we obtain a sound atypical terrible I think, to enter funk and reggae sounds. Clearly my favorite position in clean (the neck is a little too bassy and lacking a bit of clarity, otherwise I'm quite a fan of cleans in neck at the base).
I play this gem on my Orange Rocker 30 and PPC212 mainly, and the rehearsal room on a small Peavy Bandit 112 transo it still manages to sound!!
Blues, rock, jazz, funk, old hardcore, punk guitar is in my opinion more versatile than it seems, at least more than what I expected!
What is striking about this guitar is the sustain. It is very present and very resonant guitar, nothing but the projection is strikingly empty (I stayed "stuck" over more than an hour to empty when I received it, it was so amazing).
I had the opportunity to try other Gibson mag (std GS, SG classic with P90 also LP trad) and it buries all the ones I've tried.
I think unpretentious that there is no secret: we know why we pay the CS and understand the influence of the quality of mahogany and multiple collages is not a myth.
Indeed, the long tenon and the wraparound should help a lot too, but the violin is really at the top of the top, this is a different level than what is standard anyway.
Even my luthier, relatively soft with no current Gibson (and there's still reasons, there are even CS finished the sickle, it is not a myth either unfortunately ...), was glued to the guitar and the sound it projects.
In short, the advice is to try it yourself or failing to ask quite detailed pictures to be sure you have no surprises.
I does so "only" 9/10 because of the microphones that are not perfect for my taste. Too bad we were not far from the 10/10 because the violin and sustain this madness are terrible.
EDIT: microphones changed in January 2012 for a set of Lollar P90 neck and standard 5% overwound in the bridge. The sounds are much more balanced, the neck stays warm but with a little more openness, the bridge stopped bleeding ears too and is halfway between the P90 and HB fat side, but retaining the ability to easily cleaner the knob. However, these mics are a bit of character and personality, they sound a bit too clean if you like good blues very dirty anything. They are really more difficult to resolve in terms of height and overall height of the studs, and exacerbated by their fidelity are sensitive to noise or harmonics can come from a disfiguring frieze, a bad horse or static . See my opinion on these microphones in the dedicated section and discussions about it in the forum on Lollar P90.
OVERALL OPINION
I use since April 2011.
I'm starting to get a little hand, but it is a guitar that is tamed and respect (especially coming from a strat, it changes a lot!), It will magnify your game if you're square but will not leave room for about if you make bread.
As I said, I tried other models from the time I reluquais and dreamed of a Gibson, if possible with P90, having already scratched by another HB.
I thought for a Duesenberg 49er 1 year but not found in test at home, the corner of my mag yet referenced Duesy dealer at the time not wanting to bring in a while he did not even in stock ...
I hesitated quite a SG Classic qq tested weeks before in my usual mag, but almost € 1,000 with two body parts, TOM, and delivered pourrave soft case, I found that my mag and Gibson (who did anything away) did not care a bit of the world. Well, I do not regret having waited and myself bleed a little because I think it's for € 1,800 worth precisely in relation to this and other Classic LP Trad kind in HB or Std.
When stores understand that we must stop taking zikos a pigeon (which is not the case of the mag I bought this one the net I said), they stop crying against the prices charged by heavyweights of the VPC net ...
I still plussoie BassWalker on the side a little underestimated neglected to see this guitar, although I feel that it is changing the P90 back for some time much in vogue.
In any case I'm really happy and would do it again the same choice, although Gibson P90 are not up to the rest of the guitar for my taste.
- Gibson Les Paul Special Singlecut Custom Shop, Historic Series, finishing YELLOW YOUR TV for me (it's beautiful, really, I can not resist me!), Made in U.S. of course, my mine is output at the end of November Gibson 2010.
- Fully mahogany one piece (not curved like those reported in tables with maple)
- Channel 22 frets rosewood fingerboard 50's rounded profile in one piece with fixing also "long tenon" in the guitar (more to sustain apparently). In short, it feels good level already violin ...
Binding and mark cream "dot" instead of the usual trapezoids. Pins in "tortoise" on the edge of the handle (although very discrete classes).
- Gibson P90 pickups neck and bridge with 3-position selector.
- Bridge-Tailpiece Wraparound "lightweight aluminum" without compensation.
- Mechanical Vintage Kluson Deluxe "white dots".
- Nitrocellulose varnish (so late) with good smell when you open the box rigid CS magnificent way!
- Finishing YOUR therefore slightly aged hardware (it is far from Fender road worn eh is discrete) type micro scratches on the covers of P90 on the pickguard, qq traces on the wrap, nothing bad and too much, it's still very classy.
- Electronic sensible reproduce vintage specs: CTS 500k knobs everywhere (I say linear use, but I will not know too much about it ...) capas "bumble-bee" 0.022 mF tone for neck and bridge (it seems that this is not true as PIO at the time, but just dressed in normal capas BBEE ...)
Note that the wiring is starting wiring "modern" contrary to what is said. Mine was ironed in 50's wiring for more interaction between the volumes and tones, and less loss of brightness knob in the game.
Finally, the jewel is delivered in "green" logo stamped rigid Gibson Gibson Custom Shop (with the star) and mounted 10-46.
UTILIZATION
Handle 50's rounded profile is big enough even if it is playable. Larger than that SG guitars are actually where I'm most comfortable although I have not (yet!!).
In fact it's just a little harder to play thumb on the low E string, and then it takes some getting used to, especially when it comes from a very comfortable soft Fender C but thinner, like me! !
The radius of 12 "(it seems that it is) is really nice to play a good compromise to me between the flat and rounded lead to agreements.
Access to acute is ok but not great, beyond the 15th it's hot (good at the same time I'm not too solos therefore poorly placed to judge well), but it is a good LP What, no surprises !.
The weight of the guitar is amazing: all those who say that LP weighs a ton, especially when it is not chambered or weight relieved, I told them "fake"!
It is light as a feather, lighter than my strat ash body (should I weigh for the exact values, but it feels direct).
Like what influence the quality of wood selected is not a myth, it is indeed true (and I do not even sound for now ...).
When you're a regular strat body, this is where we enjoy cutting stomach, but not sacrilege, a LP must remain an LP!
I plussoie BassWalker the opinion of the great differences between the 2 pickups neck and bridge, although they are strictly identical. We will return in the sound.
The height of the P90, not adjustable on this model (they are even wood in their cavities) is almost identical to the 2, so that the neck sounds a bit louder than the bridge (near the neck is strings, the bridge too far for my taste on my model, but I could see another model mag and it was like the first view). The pickups are hardly inclined, they are almost parallel to the body.
On frets and setup, here is the reason for my 8/10 (I'll put 8.5 if I could). Indeed, level settings, mine (bought on the net but with photos of the store, very nice) did not suit me at all. Action too high, especially side strings, intonation really not good (I know it's a wrap and not a TOM, but hey there's still limits!) And a band that needed be corrected slightly. In short, I do not me ecstasy before the Plek system, and I think the price is a bit shameful that the guitar is not set correctly, even if it is true that some settings such action are a little more personal after the scratch game.
Fortunately, after a ride in my luthier loved, everything is back to normal, no big problems despite narrowly that it is impossible to have the precision of a Tuneomatic.
Finally, note that the vintage MECAS so often criticized wrongly take good agreement, as long as the nut is properly adjusted head again.
SOUNDS
We have arrived to the point: how does it sound?
Well then, my friends, is the killing integral, although the Gibson P90 are in my opinion not the best you can put on such a guitar.
Sounds obtained are very different and marked according to the micro config used. Indeed, if they will have identical (alnico V P90 each, measured at 7.85 and 7.95 kohm in neck in bridge so), the resulting sounds are markedly different.
- In the neck, the sound is very round, very warm and velvety, almost a little too "bassy" it fail almost a little opening at the acute to the point that I do not fall below the tone 8. Ideal for jazz course, blues-rock, or for burning leads to desire so much smooth Santana in mind.
- The bridge is quite the opposite: the sound is very twangy despite mahogany, with treble and midrange treble very aggressive, it lacks a little bass and fat, and the position and height of implantation should not be foreign. For example, I never get the tone more than 6, and before the luthier there slips springs to adjust the height and a little closer and lower side, it was 4 ...
In short, it is very punk rock actually see, I use that rhythmic crunch tones and OD, where suddenly pierces the mix at home (although there must have a good point! !). For leads, I prefer to neck, I've always been like that. In short, it lacks a bit of fat in the sound to calm the aggression a bit too much for me.
- Finally, the intermediate position is most surprising. It was almost a strat sound with his LP, and yes! With the implementation / / of 2 P90, we obtain a sound atypical terrible I think, to enter funk and reggae sounds. Clearly my favorite position in clean (the neck is a little too bassy and lacking a bit of clarity, otherwise I'm quite a fan of cleans in neck at the base).
I play this gem on my Orange Rocker 30 and PPC212 mainly, and the rehearsal room on a small Peavy Bandit 112 transo it still manages to sound!!
Blues, rock, jazz, funk, old hardcore, punk guitar is in my opinion more versatile than it seems, at least more than what I expected!
What is striking about this guitar is the sustain. It is very present and very resonant guitar, nothing but the projection is strikingly empty (I stayed "stuck" over more than an hour to empty when I received it, it was so amazing).
I had the opportunity to try other Gibson mag (std GS, SG classic with P90 also LP trad) and it buries all the ones I've tried.
I think unpretentious that there is no secret: we know why we pay the CS and understand the influence of the quality of mahogany and multiple collages is not a myth.
Indeed, the long tenon and the wraparound should help a lot too, but the violin is really at the top of the top, this is a different level than what is standard anyway.
Even my luthier, relatively soft with no current Gibson (and there's still reasons, there are even CS finished the sickle, it is not a myth either unfortunately ...), was glued to the guitar and the sound it projects.
In short, the advice is to try it yourself or failing to ask quite detailed pictures to be sure you have no surprises.
I does so "only" 9/10 because of the microphones that are not perfect for my taste. Too bad we were not far from the 10/10 because the violin and sustain this madness are terrible.
EDIT: microphones changed in January 2012 for a set of Lollar P90 neck and standard 5% overwound in the bridge. The sounds are much more balanced, the neck stays warm but with a little more openness, the bridge stopped bleeding ears too and is halfway between the P90 and HB fat side, but retaining the ability to easily cleaner the knob. However, these mics are a bit of character and personality, they sound a bit too clean if you like good blues very dirty anything. They are really more difficult to resolve in terms of height and overall height of the studs, and exacerbated by their fidelity are sensitive to noise or harmonics can come from a disfiguring frieze, a bad horse or static . See my opinion on these microphones in the dedicated section and discussions about it in the forum on Lollar P90.
OVERALL OPINION
I use since April 2011.
I'm starting to get a little hand, but it is a guitar that is tamed and respect (especially coming from a strat, it changes a lot!), It will magnify your game if you're square but will not leave room for about if you make bread.
As I said, I tried other models from the time I reluquais and dreamed of a Gibson, if possible with P90, having already scratched by another HB.
I thought for a Duesenberg 49er 1 year but not found in test at home, the corner of my mag yet referenced Duesy dealer at the time not wanting to bring in a while he did not even in stock ...
I hesitated quite a SG Classic qq tested weeks before in my usual mag, but almost € 1,000 with two body parts, TOM, and delivered pourrave soft case, I found that my mag and Gibson (who did anything away) did not care a bit of the world. Well, I do not regret having waited and myself bleed a little because I think it's for € 1,800 worth precisely in relation to this and other Classic LP Trad kind in HB or Std.
When stores understand that we must stop taking zikos a pigeon (which is not the case of the mag I bought this one the net I said), they stop crying against the prices charged by heavyweights of the VPC net ...
I still plussoie BassWalker on the side a little underestimated neglected to see this guitar, although I feel that it is changing the P90 back for some time much in vogue.
In any case I'm really happy and would do it again the same choice, although Gibson P90 are not up to the rest of the guitar for my taste.