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Published on 12/13/12 at 01:58What connections (audio, MIDI ...)?
1 phone output, 1 output R / L hand stereo, 8 separate outputs, the classic trio twelve o'clock ... known
Note that the output level is not very high, just like my JV2080. but the sound is good
He has an effects section?
NO
How many sounds, styles available? Are they editable? Through a Utility Mac / PC?
about 130, plus those of the memory card (I have a 04 SN R8, including the sounds of a TR 808 ...
What caractériques sequencer?
I bought my R8 for the sequencer and I do not regret it a very good way real time, a very good step sequencer, recording parameters such as pitch pan, attack, release is recorded, that n ' is not necessarily current
requires a little time learning the LCD is very readable when walking
Attention because the power supply is external, specific and heavy. Without him no functional R8, it is almost impossible to find, so be sure to check its presence when purchasing
UTILIZATION
It is a machine of the late 80s (20 years so ...) and machines are clearly dated and have the sounds of those years. to study well when you want to buy this bar only for use "sound"
BUT
use is excellent, and after several MPC groovebox (MC 505, she had a huge sound), I need to streamline my machines and R8 is the ultimate BAR (at least for my use)
the sequencer is doing its job brilliantly, the step sequencer screen is perfect and the broad, is magnificent readability. It's pretty simple I do my pattern almost instantly.
It changes my GPA or my MC 505 that needed to go through submenus to activate step ...
only limitation not possible to change the sounds for recording a pattern ... (But I do not care complémentement actually, because editing is already more than enough!)
editing sounds is easy and very complete ... a slider value, takes the same principle as the Qlink of akai it works well and everything is solid, including PADs hard plastic, strange choice but not so bad ...
just talking about the pads: I was very afraid of the people, but they are well spaced, respond well to the sensitivity ultimately it is a very pleasant surprise when they are in good condition.
especially the pads for functions FLAM, ROLL and ERASE are basic yet few machines must offer. Basically it's well designed and it is especially ergonomic
SOUNDS
Basic R8 is not very follichonne, it seems to me that it is 12bit and sampled ca feel:
- This is clearly not very clean ...
- However, the dynamic is very good
- In the end it is strange how nice it is typed in a 80 piece!
BUT
I put a SN R8 04 ... this little card is a real bomb, with my R8 and the map I available to me in a nice box and a small standalone TR-808 with ALL the sounds of the TR 808 and generally all the features of the TR with MIDI, editing facilities and separate outputs
Obviously the R8 with the TR 808 card will not be worth 100% the sound of the TR 808 but if I had pronounced all like her big sister to 98%!
Once again if listening to solo the difference may be, it becomes much less in one piece ...
Incidentally, I met very recently, a possessor of TR 808 confessed to me that he loved his TR 808, it was a beautiful thing, but now he could not take the concert because:
- 1: there is no MIDI
- 2: it is super fragile and shock scare him
- 3: the risk to the flying is more than some!
R8, a little worse than the original, can fill this tour ...
Basically a TR 808 at home or in the studio and on tour R8 or studio!
then in the end as I unfortunately not true for 1500 euros and 500 euros TR slam for the revision / midification ... well you have understood my R8 220 euros is a reasonable choice, not passionate.
When I have as I take can be a real TR I'll midifié. But what will happen? Honestly I'm not sure a real TR 909 however ...
OVERALL OPINION
Many advantages to using this BAR, I use it only as clonne of TR 808 and filled with wonder this functionality and this opinion is a reflection of R8 use as TR 808 only.
Sequencer, midi, separate outputs, maps, durability, ergonomics ... I love this beautiful machine decidedly generous dimensions, it is a place, it is not cramped ... I LOVE my R8!!
there are also drawbacks: the external power supply, the number of patterns / songs a bit limited ...
I have a few machines in the hands (I played a few hours with TR 909 and 808) but I did not have a very large physical experiences with those below.
small boxes ALESIS BOSS and are not bad, but suffer from their size, separate outputs malgrés sounds that are not bad, but rather ...
I do not know why the R8 gives me more satisfaction than anything that happened in my hands at least for what it is supposed to do.
In comparison, if I had to make a very personal comparison I admit) between my three favorite machines (R8 / MPC / MC 505 for its:
- TR obviously original
- Tied: R8 with the card or MC TR 808 505 1000
- MPC 1000 as if the sound is excellent processing samples for TR sounds différenement
for a comparison in terms of ergonomics:
- TR 808/909 has egalité with the R8, even if the TR is certainly faster edition
- MC 505
- MPC
The R8 is expensive used, the strength design will pay dearly priori, but against a TR original ca not seem exorbitant (5 months time about expensive!)
PS: I have not tested the card dance (R8 SR 10) containing a portion of the samples TR 909, it seems it is not terrible. So, I stuck samplers back of the R8 and the result is quite correct, but on the other hand, the difference is clear: NOTHING like a real TR 909!!
Try to find a R8 in poor condition to play, this can still be used (just for the LCD)
1 phone output, 1 output R / L hand stereo, 8 separate outputs, the classic trio twelve o'clock ... known
Note that the output level is not very high, just like my JV2080. but the sound is good
He has an effects section?
NO
How many sounds, styles available? Are they editable? Through a Utility Mac / PC?
about 130, plus those of the memory card (I have a 04 SN R8, including the sounds of a TR 808 ...
What caractériques sequencer?
I bought my R8 for the sequencer and I do not regret it a very good way real time, a very good step sequencer, recording parameters such as pitch pan, attack, release is recorded, that n ' is not necessarily current
requires a little time learning the LCD is very readable when walking
Attention because the power supply is external, specific and heavy. Without him no functional R8, it is almost impossible to find, so be sure to check its presence when purchasing
UTILIZATION
It is a machine of the late 80s (20 years so ...) and machines are clearly dated and have the sounds of those years. to study well when you want to buy this bar only for use "sound"
BUT
use is excellent, and after several MPC groovebox (MC 505, she had a huge sound), I need to streamline my machines and R8 is the ultimate BAR (at least for my use)
the sequencer is doing its job brilliantly, the step sequencer screen is perfect and the broad, is magnificent readability. It's pretty simple I do my pattern almost instantly.
It changes my GPA or my MC 505 that needed to go through submenus to activate step ...
only limitation not possible to change the sounds for recording a pattern ... (But I do not care complémentement actually, because editing is already more than enough!)
editing sounds is easy and very complete ... a slider value, takes the same principle as the Qlink of akai it works well and everything is solid, including PADs hard plastic, strange choice but not so bad ...
just talking about the pads: I was very afraid of the people, but they are well spaced, respond well to the sensitivity ultimately it is a very pleasant surprise when they are in good condition.
especially the pads for functions FLAM, ROLL and ERASE are basic yet few machines must offer. Basically it's well designed and it is especially ergonomic
SOUNDS
Basic R8 is not very follichonne, it seems to me that it is 12bit and sampled ca feel:
- This is clearly not very clean ...
- However, the dynamic is very good
- In the end it is strange how nice it is typed in a 80 piece!
BUT
I put a SN R8 04 ... this little card is a real bomb, with my R8 and the map I available to me in a nice box and a small standalone TR-808 with ALL the sounds of the TR 808 and generally all the features of the TR with MIDI, editing facilities and separate outputs
Obviously the R8 with the TR 808 card will not be worth 100% the sound of the TR 808 but if I had pronounced all like her big sister to 98%!
Once again if listening to solo the difference may be, it becomes much less in one piece ...
Incidentally, I met very recently, a possessor of TR 808 confessed to me that he loved his TR 808, it was a beautiful thing, but now he could not take the concert because:
- 1: there is no MIDI
- 2: it is super fragile and shock scare him
- 3: the risk to the flying is more than some!
R8, a little worse than the original, can fill this tour ...
Basically a TR 808 at home or in the studio and on tour R8 or studio!
then in the end as I unfortunately not true for 1500 euros and 500 euros TR slam for the revision / midification ... well you have understood my R8 220 euros is a reasonable choice, not passionate.
When I have as I take can be a real TR I'll midifié. But what will happen? Honestly I'm not sure a real TR 909 however ...
OVERALL OPINION
Many advantages to using this BAR, I use it only as clonne of TR 808 and filled with wonder this functionality and this opinion is a reflection of R8 use as TR 808 only.
Sequencer, midi, separate outputs, maps, durability, ergonomics ... I love this beautiful machine decidedly generous dimensions, it is a place, it is not cramped ... I LOVE my R8!!
there are also drawbacks: the external power supply, the number of patterns / songs a bit limited ...
I have a few machines in the hands (I played a few hours with TR 909 and 808) but I did not have a very large physical experiences with those below.
small boxes ALESIS BOSS and are not bad, but suffer from their size, separate outputs malgrés sounds that are not bad, but rather ...
I do not know why the R8 gives me more satisfaction than anything that happened in my hands at least for what it is supposed to do.
In comparison, if I had to make a very personal comparison I admit) between my three favorite machines (R8 / MPC / MC 505 for its:
- TR obviously original
- Tied: R8 with the card or MC TR 808 505 1000
- MPC 1000 as if the sound is excellent processing samples for TR sounds différenement
for a comparison in terms of ergonomics:
- TR 808/909 has egalité with the R8, even if the TR is certainly faster edition
- MC 505
- MPC
The R8 is expensive used, the strength design will pay dearly priori, but against a TR original ca not seem exorbitant (5 months time about expensive!)
PS: I have not tested the card dance (R8 SR 10) containing a portion of the samples TR 909, it seems it is not terrible. So, I stuck samplers back of the R8 and the result is quite correct, but on the other hand, the difference is clear: NOTHING like a real TR 909!!
Try to find a R8 in poor condition to play, this can still be used (just for the LCD)