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Focusrite Saffire firewire WORKING with Windows 10 Creators Update

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Topic Focusrite Saffire firewire WORKING with Windows 10 Creators Update
Just wanna share after trying all sort of things....
My Focusrite Saffire firewire is finally WORKING with Windows 10 Creators Update.
How to do:
Download 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller {Legacy)from the Windows site.
Install it.
Then set it as driver for your firewire.
Open Windows Powershell (administrator) and type
bcdedit /set testsigning on
This puts your pc in test mode.
Restart computer
Now install saffire-2.71.exe from focusrite and install.
Windows 10 will not like it, but install anyway after the notification.
Saffire is working now!
:-)
Open Windows Powershell (administrator) and type:
bcdedit /set testsigning off
Restart

You're in normal windows mode again
&
Voila!
Now you have your Saffire working under Windows 10

How this helps the many with this issue!
Themanandhismusic




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Quote from Brivido Sonoro:
I did a fresh install of Windows 10 22h2, The exact sequence for installing the Saffire drivers is this


Hi Brivido, thank you for all your help regarding this issue!

I'm currently using Windows 11 (27686.1000) and I can't use my original Focusrite Saffire (the white tower). I used this hack and managed to make it work a few year ago with Windows 10, but now I can't

I did exactly everything you said in your posts. However, what seems to be the issue here is that, when I install the Saffire drivers (2.71), in my device manger, I only get the "Focusrite Saffiwre WDM" driver in "audio, video and game devices". There is no other Focusrite driver in "audio inputs and outputs". Also, when I try to update the driver, the only one appearing is the WDM version. I remember that, back when I made it work in Windows 10, I could find both WDM and non-WDM versions, but now I can't. Any clue on what to do here? Thank you!

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[ Post last edited on 08/17/2024 at 23:32:25 ]

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I thank you Fabricioz for appreciating my effort, unfortunately I can't help you because I haven't switched to Windows 11 yet
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You guys are my hero's at the moment.
I went down a massive rabbit hole, when I found a 1st gen Saffire on EBay for $40.
Good price, looked cool. It's my 1st firewire device, so I didn't know much about them.
I spent $20 on a firewire to USB cable, thinking I'd get away with that...
Then i found a PCIe Firewire card for $20, x2 for the 2 PCs I have, plus another 2x$20 on leads for those cards. Where are we now? $140?
Tried to install it on my up to date Windows 10 machine, nothing.
I even dragged out a 20 year old MAC PC with firewire. It worked perfectly fine.
Getting more and more frustrated, I decided to wipe Win 10 and install Linux instead thinking I might have more luck there. It'd work once then it wouldn't boot up again. There goes PC #1.
Got on PC #2, which had Win 10 and installed Win 7 instead. Yes! It works!
Tried Win 7 on PC #1 but it's too new so most the hardware wouldn't run.
Tried Win 8.1 on PC #1. I;ve never used it before. Within half an hour of using Win 8.1 i'd smashed 1 keyboard because that OS is F^%$ED!.
This has been going on non stop for the past 5 days at this point, to no avail.
I was about to call everything a total loss of time, money and mental health when I stumbled across this thread. I read through it, the process sounded solid to me. I figured if there's any chance in the universe of getting the Saffire running this would have to be it.
I know 22H2 is supposed to "not" work with Saffire, so I hunted down an older version and settled on v1709 because i'd read that Focusrite had done their compatibility testing on v1809, to which they considered it "possible".
So far, so good it DOES work following the directions!
I did have problems with permission denied with the permission enumerations working on the Drivers folder. I looked up another method using a cmd prompt and the chown command. Thatb seemed to do the trick.
Ok, I've got 2 DAW PCs to set up from scratch now. Hopefully everything keeps as is. I'll get back with an update on it's stability.
Thanks again!
Shane
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I have this working in Windows 11 now! https://en.audiofanzine.com/focusrite/series-saffire/forums/t.12296,focusrite-saffire-firewire-legacy-working-with-windows-11,post.26487.html

Thanks again guys you are heroes!
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Saffire Gen 1 working on Windows 11!

[update] From my experience it's the Saffire software that is "breaking" it. I've never got it running using the installer, but when I installed everything manually, (like mentioned below) it worked the first time. I'd highly recommend trying it. To do it, install Saffire as usual then copy it's folder from program files (x86) and put it aside. Now, uninstall the Saffire software and copy the folder you put aside back into it's original location. Goto its driver folder and right click on ffsaffire_1349.inf and select Install. Do the same for ffsaffire_avs.inf. If that doesn't work try adding new hardware through the device manager method. Lastly, open a cmd prompt (admin) in the driver folder and type: regsvr32 ffsaffire_asio_x64.dll for 64bit (I doubt anyone is using x86). Then cross your fingers and plug it in. It's possible you might have to repeat the steps posted above if it doesn't auto config right the first time. Also, you might have to say goodbye to Saffire Control. Every time i opened it Saffire crashed. The only control i really need is for the bit and sample rates, which i use ASIO link Pro for control over that.

(The post from Tar Pits Of Eon was me too. I'd forgotten i'd written something pervious haha)

I tried for weeks to get it running on Windows 10, but to no avail. It sent me near insane haha
I just did a fresh install of Windows 11 and I'd forgotten I had the Saffire plugged in. I looked in device manager and it had the Saffire subunit and the av/c listed, but with triangles. I could only get Win 10 to do that one time in every 10 attempts or more, so it was a big deal haha

I started the process differently though. All of the stuff at the beginning (apart from bcdedit) I didn't have to do. Most likely because i used customized version of Windows that have unlimited user control/ownership (https://windowsxlite.com/ for distros or https://winaerotweaker.com/ for registry/context menu power tweaks). I just started by coping the Focusrite Saffire installed folder from Program Files (x86) I had on another computer and installed the 1394 and AVS drivers from their .inf files.
After that, i used regsvr32 to register Saffire's ASIO driver.
Admittedly, I didn't install the right drivers the first time but I still got it running a couple of times but it was very unstable.
I remembered reading this post months ago when I first attempted it so I thought i should redo it in the order listed here and every step of the way it worked. Relay tripped when they should have etc. It worked absolutely perfect, I cant thank you enough!! I use it for recording in my home studio.
After failing my initial attempt, just so I could use the Saffire with my guitar, I set it up on a windows 7 machine, that live network streamed the guitars ASIO audio over my home network to my Windows 11 machine and recorded it to my DAW software... ALL in realtime!!! Wow!!
Now it's looking like i might not have to do that anymore thanks to your posts. Getting this working has meant more to me than anything. I tried over a dozen different versions of windows. I have gone to INSANE levels for months to try to get to happen what's just happened. You are my absolute hero!!!

[ Post last edited on 02/23/2025 at 21:53:33 ]